Medieval 2:Total War Online Game [Concluded]

[Thermal]

Ah sorry, i was mis informed, as a new ally, please share your countries culture and your position in society

[ULC]

Watch the Tally guys! Someone ignored Beefy's post, here is the (now) correct tally.

HRE/Norway +1
Papal States/Turks -1

If it is war you want, it shall be war you get! I call all those who truly support their people and faiths to bring this silly Tyrant down to his knees - even now he calls upon blasphemers and servants of the dark powers to do his bidding!

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*All IC guys, especially you Beefy

England - 8
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 11
Venice - 10
Portugal - 12
Scotland - 12
Ireland - 10
Wales - 10
Denmark - 9
Norway - 11
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 10
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 10
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 11
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 11
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10

[Thermal]

YLC, my Holy Roman Emperor freund Mein instincts believe all alliances and wars should be addressed in the Opening post, and changed accordingly, thereofre when voting i know if i'm taking points off of one faction or two, saves confusion so i can always refer back to post one (please, danke)

[ULC]

Already taken care of before I even posted

I'll post an alliance update about every 30 posts now, to keep everyone up to speed

[Thermal]

England - 8
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 11
Venice - 10
Portugal - 11
Scotland - 12
Ireland - 10
Wales - 10
Denmark - 9
Norway - 11
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 10
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 10
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 11
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10

i believe that is right, did glyphz mess that bit up? i know the mayans were on 12, and portugal 11

[ULC]

England - 8
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 11
Venice - 10
Portugal - 13
Scotland - 12
Ireland - 10
Wales - 10
Denmark - 9
Norway - 11
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 10
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 10
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 11
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10

[Thermal]

sorry mis read my allies score, right about mayans though so updating the OP me would thinks

[Tiberius of the Drake]

+1 Antioch
-1 Turks

England - 8
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 11
Venice - 10
Portugal - 13
Scotland - 12
Ireland - 10
Wales - 10
Denmark - 9
Norway - 11
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 10
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 9
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 12
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10

@Beefy: If you have ever visited The 12 CQ forum u would know why I chose Antioch.

Also: Alliance: Antionch with Jerusalem

Will the Holy kingdom of Jerusalem join with the Principality of Antioch to defend the Holy Land from the Infidel?

[ULC]

Please keep in mind the Turks and Papal States are in Alliance, and thus a drop in either the Papal States or the Turks results in a drop in both.

England - 8
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 11
Venice - 10
Portugal - 13
Scotland - 12
Ireland - 10
Wales - 10
Denmark - 9
Norway - 11
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 9
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 9
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 12
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10

So now who isn't a good Catholic Pope Yoyoma

[Tiberius of the Drake]

(Mea Culpa)I was unaware that the pope was in alliance with the infidel. why does the holy see not help to defend God's Kingdom on Earth. This Alliance MUST end.

Bohemund I Of Antioch*

*Hows that for in character?

[Thermal]

I was unaware that the pope was in alliance with the infidel.

exactly my point, put all diplomatic relations in the opening post YLC, how many time to i have to say it

[Thermal]

(Mea Culpa)I was unaware that the pope was in alliance with the infidel. why does the holy see not help to defend God's Kingdom on Earth. This Alliance MUST end.

Bohemund I Of Antioch*

*Hows that for in character?

bohemund was a rebel force in broken crescent traitor, anyway the papacy always allies with the moors on medieval 2, so why shouldnt the turks?

[ULC]

exactly my point, put all diplomatic relations in the opening post YLC, how many time to i have to say it

I thought I had, seems my edit , so let me try again

[Tiberius of the Drake]

bohemund was a rebel force in broken crescent traitor, anyway the papacy always allies with the moors on medieval 2, so why shouldnt the turks?

I was going with the more historical way than the game's pseuedo histoyr. bohemund only ever rebelled against the byzantines (if that could be considered a rebellion)

[Thermal]

I thought I had, seems my edit , so let me try again

ok i'll leave you alone now

and tiburus im only messin with ya

[Beefy187]

I was going with the more historical way than the game's pseuedo histoyr. bohemund only ever rebelled against the byzantines (if that could be considered a rebellion)

It seems the victory is impossible for the Turks. Both Antioch and the HRE alliance are attacking our country.

I may have to abandon ship and migrate to America

well, im going to fight Antioch before I do..

[Yoyoma1910]

+1 Papacy/Turks

-1 HRE/Norway


England - 8
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 10
Venice - 10
Portugal - 13
Scotland - 12
Ireland - 10
Wales - 10
Denmark - 9
Norway - 10
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States -10
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 10
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 12
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10



There are worse infidels at home than abroad, my son. Those who claim to follow the cross, but then try to burn it's house, must be stopped.

[Veho Nex]

The scot's fight hard against England. The deathblow will be soon

England - 7
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 11
Venice - 10
Portugal - 13
Scotland - 13
Ireland - 10
Wales - 10
Denmark - 9
Norway - 11
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 9
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 9
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 12
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10

[Beefy187]

Turks will resolve the alliance with the Papal state.

Both the Pope and us Sultans have our own battle. If I can out last Antioch, I shall hail to your mighty Papal State once more Yoyoma. Right now I think its best for us to go our own way

[Rhyfelwyr]

Scotland +1 (Border Horse)
England -1 (Hobilars)

England - 6
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 11
Venice - 10
Portugal - 13
Scotland - 14
Ireland - 10
Wales - 10
Denmark - 9
Norway - 11
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 9
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 9
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 12
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10

[Tiberius of the Drake]

ok i'll leave you alone now

and tiburus im only messin with ya

I know thisnow, but at the time it was about 1:30 am here and i might have had something to drink.

[Sigurd]

I believe that alliances should follow the tally. Otherwise it would be difficult to follow the developments.

I can't see that Turkey have broken the alliance with the pope.
(resolve is used in chemistry and not with alliances?)
I guess we need a rule about breaking alliances...

HRE/Norway +1
Turkey/Papal States -1


England - 6
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 12
Venice - 10
Portugal - 13
Scotland - 14
Ireland - 10
Wales - 10
Denmark - 9
Norway - 12
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 8
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 8
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 12
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10

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Current Alliances
Holy Roman Empire/Norway (YLC and Sigurd)
Papal States/Turks (By Yoyoma and 187Beefyz)
Mayans/Portugal (By 777Ares777 and Glyphz)

[ULC]

I actually did, in the opening rules section

Welcome to Medieval 2: Total War Online Game! This will also include Factions from Kingdoms to add to the fun (but hopefully not the length ) I welcome all who had fun playing the Rome Total War version, which was great fun. This will use the same rules as the Rome one, kindly borrowed from Caius's game with the addition a new rule - Alliance.

The Rules
1) Post once every 24 hour period (GMT) to take one point from one faction, and add a point to another.
2) No back to back posts.
3) Alliance - To form an Alliance, two people must post "Alliance: Faction X with Faction Y". From then on, an increase in Faction X will increase Faction Y, and a decrease in Faction Y will result in a decrease in Faction X. You can dissolve an Alliance at anytime by having one of the declarer's of the Alliance post "End Alliance with Faction X". Please bold the creations and dissolution's of Alliances in bold for clarity.

Maybe I need to bold it myself?

[Sigurd]

I actually did, in the opening rules section

Aha!!
And I was right in my allegation that the alliance between Turky and the papal states has not ended.
The break must be in the proper form.

End Alliance with Faction X

[White_eyes:D]

I guess I well be Wales....up for an alliance Scotland?

Wales +1
England -1

England - 5
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 12
Venice - 10
Portugal - 13
Scotland - 14
Ireland - 10
Wales - 11
Denmark - 9
Norway - 12
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 8
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 8
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 12
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10

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Current Alliances
Holy Roman Empire/Norway (YLC and Sigurd)
Papal States/Turks (By Yoyoma and 187Beefyz)
Mayans/Portugal (By 777Ares777 and Glyphz)

[Yoyoma1910]

Veho Nex ignored my post, just above his.

This should be the tally.


England - 5
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 11
Venice - 10
Portugal - 13
Scotland - 14
Ireland - 10
Wales - 11
Denmark - 9
Norway - 11
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 9
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 9
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 12
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10


End alliance with Turks. Though one day, perhaps, we shall again join in our mutual struggle against the faithless of both faiths.

[Beaver]

I would’ve joined my Danish or Norwegian brethren to form the Union of Kalmar. But Norway is opposing Denmark, and they're in an alliance with the HRE...
So,
Ireland +1
England -1

England - 4
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 11
Venice - 10
Portugal - 13
Scotland - 14
Ireland - 11
Wales - 11
Denmark - 9
Norway - 11
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 9
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 9
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 12
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10

Alliance anyone? Wales, Scotland?

(And where's the Baron's Alliance? )

[Askthepizzaguy]

Master YLC requested my assistance. I'm helping him now, but I intend to remain neutral for a while unless one of my favorite factions is in jeopardy.

Papal States -1
Turks +1

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England - 4
France - 10
Spain - 7
Holy Roman Empire - 11
Venice - 10
Portugal - 13
Scotland - 14
Ireland - 11
Wales - 11
Denmark - 9
Norway - 11
Genoa - 9
Sicily - 10
Papal States - 8
Poland - 10
Hungary - 10
Byzantium - 9
Russia - 11
Novgorod - 9
Lithuania - 10
Teutonic Order - 10
Moors - 10
Turks - 10
Egypt - 10
Jerusalem - 10
Antioch - 12
Mongols - 11
Timurids - 9
Aztecs - 10
Mayans - 12
Tarascans - 10
Tlaxcalans - 10
Apache - 10
Chichimeca - 10

[Yoyoma1910]

Argh! Betrayed by the cousin of my former ally!

[Thermal]

Argh! Betrayed by the cousin of my former ally!

if the pope travels to america, maybe we can help