Hamas Legalizes Crucifixion

[Hooahguy]

i wonder if hamas will start wearing lorica Segmentata?

[Lemur]

Don't think I'm going to defend Hamas for a minute. I have no time for evil *********s who hold civilian populations hostage while they engage in unwinnable conflicts with their better-armed neighbors. However, that said, I suspect this whole "crucifixion" thing is BS. I can't find any mainstream news source that's reporting it, and once the rightwing blogs have whipped themselves into a frenzy over something, there's rarely more than a twelve-hour delay before it gets picked up by the MSM.

Find me a Christian Science Monitor or an Economist or an AP, UPI or Reuters confirming this, and I'll change my tune.

[HoreTore]

So in the time it takes for Hamas to realize its wrongs and abolishes the death penalty, you would prefer the condemned to be tortured for hours before the execution.

You really think the condemned would care so much? I really think his biggest concern is that he's going to die. Get over your holy self, your method of execution is just as barbaric. Less pain perhaps, but just as wrong.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

You really think the condemned would care so much?

Uh, yes? Wouldn't you want to have a quick death instead of a long, drawn-out torture?

[ICantSpellDawg]

You really think the condemned would care so much? I really think his biggest concern is that he's going to die. Get over your holy self, your method of execution is just as barbaric. Less pain perhaps, but just as wrong.

You think that someone wouldn't mind being crucified if they had to die anyway?

[HoreTore]

Uh, yes? Wouldn't you want to have a quick death instead of a long, drawn-out torture?

You think that someone wouldn't mind being crucified if they had to die anyway?

As I said, I think his biggest concern is that he's going to die. Do you really think they're more afraid when they're picked out of a cell to get crucified than when they're picked out to get a needle and die?

And talking about long and drawn out; what the hell do you call Death Row then? How is that not 10 years of psychological torture?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

As I said, I think his biggest concern is that he's going to die. Do you really think they're more afraid when they're picked out of a cell to get crucified than when they're picked out to get a needle and die?

I would certainly be concerned with the method. I think any individual who doesn't care whether he is slowly tortured to death or killed almost instantly is either a perfect example of a stoic or is clinically insane.

[Hooahguy]

I would certainly be concerned with the method. I think any individual who doesn't care whether he is slowly tortured to death or killed almost instantly is either a perfect example of a stoic or is clinically insane.

agreed.

[Fisherking]

As I said, I think his biggest concern is that he's going to die. Do you really think they're more afraid when they're picked out of a cell to get crucified than when they're picked out to get a needle and die?

And talking about long and drawn out; what the hell do you call Death Row then? How is that not 10 years of psychological torture?

You are really kidding, aren’t you!

Death by torture is the equivalent of lethal injection!

I think I might see where you are trying to go, but you have left the road at high speed!

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

This is like the life of Brian!

"What's worse than crucifiction?"

"Stabbing"

Seriously, if I was going to die I'd want to be quick if it can't be noble.

[HoreTore]

You are really kidding, aren’t you!

Death by torture is the equivalent of lethal injection!

I think I might see where you are trying to go, but you have left the road at high speed!

Bah. I'm saying both methods are barbaric crimes against humanity, I really don't care about which shade of black is the darkest.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Bah. I'm saying both methods are barbaric crimes against humanity, I really don't care about which shade of black is the darkest.

We arn't talking about colors here, we are talking about being physically tortured and killed or just being killed with some concern as to reducing the pain and duration of dying. If you don't see a distinction, I don't know what to tell you.

[Tribesman]

we are talking about being physically tortured and killed or just being killed with some concern as to reducing the pain and duration of dying.

Isn't the controversy over lethal injections that the method doesn't reduce pain it just means the condemned person isn't able to scream and writhe in agony from the pain .
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C1A9609C8B63

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

HoreTore, I have a problem with the death penalty in general, but if the state decided I had to go, I'd prefer it to be quicker than crucifiction. That's not a justification, but I think you should recognize there's a little bit of a difference.

[LittleGrizzly]

The death penalty is sick!

crucification is a nasty way to go but lethal injection has never seemed like the nicest way to go either, i remember some controversy about some kids picking a shooting squad a few years back, thats what i would probably go for over lethal injection...

Is this is a move by hamas its just a bit of pr for the fundamentalists..

Though thinking on it at least with the crucifiction at least you get a bit of a backlash, whereas lots of people seem happy with lethal injection...

[Tribesman]

Is this is a move by hamas

No grizz its a nothing .
Someone wrote that hamas is debating introducing sharia law , then someone must have decided that one interpretation of Sharia means that crucifixion is the punishment for robbery involving murder so this is obviously must be what hamas was aiming for so you get the .......OMG Hamas wants to crucify people !!!!!! story .

[HoreTore]

Though thinking on it at least with the crucifiction at least you get a bit of a backlash, whereas lots of people seem happy with lethal injection...

The thing is, TuffStuff, that I see just having the death penalty in your legal system as the worst and most barbaric thing imaginable. It's rock bottom.

It's irrelevant whether you fall 1000 metres or 1001 metres, you're still just as dead.

[LittleGrizzly]

No grizz its a nothing .

That was a bit of a typo, if you swop the word is for the word if the sentence makes a lot more sense... at least thats what i think i was going for...

I have to say from what i have seen from hollywood lethal injection is pretty damn brutal (from ted bundy incase your wondering) though i can't be sure how accurate that is...

from tribesy article

Dr. William Hamilton, medical examiner in Alachua County, Fla., said yesterday that the needle with the lethal chemicals that should have gone directly into Mr. Diaz's veins punctured the veins before entering soft tissue. It took a second dose and 34 minutes for him to die.

That is sickening to the extreme.... that is no better than torture. The fact it was an accident makes it less evil i guess but for the guy going through it intention makes no bloody difference...

was he there paralysed unable to speak or scream out and in tremedous pain ?

if so that is almost as bad as any method of exucution....

[Fisherking]

Uhm.....

Your country has the death penalty too, TuffStuff. Are we supposed to laugh at you too, or what? What joke am I missing here?

One should pick their battles. Moral relativism is usually too hard to justify, especially when a government is doing something just to be provocative and or barbaric.

Back to the actual topic:

To me this seems meant as a challenge to the international community, and nominally Christian Nations in particular. It also seems barbaric and unthinking on their part. It should not win them many friends!

How can any thinking person justify such regressive and inhumane practices?

[Watchman]

Might I suggest you actually wait until it actually gets confirmed this isn't what around here is known as a "news duck" before mounting your moral high horse...?

Also, if you want to execute people quickly what's wrong with the good old guillotine ? Decapitation tends to lead to rather prompt demise, and that device does it quite reliably...

[HoreTore]

One should pick their battles. Moral relativism is usually too hard to justify, especially when a government is doing something just to be provocative and or barbaric.

Yup, the death penalty is a barbaric practice and should be banned, no argument there. I just don't see why we should laugh and ridicule countries having it, seeing as there are quite a few of them...

[Lemur]

Does anybody care that this issue has not been reported in any mainstream news source? Or are we having too much fun hyperventilating about the pros and cons of nailing people up?

[Tribesman]

Does anybody care that this issue has not been reported in any mainstream news source?

Come on Lemur the Jerusalem Post is a mainstream source , its just that they got the story wrong which is why it died very rapidly .