The Scourge of Ephesus [Concluded]

**ULC** · 01-08-2009, 04:25

RR, your just not worth the time. To continue your current posting style, you need us to pay attention to you.

So let's cease trying to analyze that which refuses to be analyzed and move onto something that can and ignore RR, he does nothing productive, and if he wants to be taken seriously at all, he will make sure he is taken seriously, not before.

**Reenk Roink** · 01-08-2009, 04:28

Originally Posted by YLC

RR, your just not worth the time. To continue your current posting style, you need us to pay attention to you - so, in the interests of the townie, cease trying to analyze that which refuses to be analyzed and move onto something that can. Ignore RR, he does nothing productive, and if he wants to be taken seriously at all, he will make sure he is taken seriously, not before.

(that means you are on the list, enjoy dying tomorrow

)

Also, I am only doing what I have been told to do (adding some flair here and there). If the town does not wish to benefit from my powers, I'm sure others may be willing to, and history will quaintly repeat itself.

**TheFlax** · 01-08-2009, 04:28

Originally Posted by TinCow

Vote: Lord Winter

Still listed as a player even though he withdrew. Better to lynch a potential WOG than someone who is active.

In agreement. Vote: Lord Winter

By the way, since I'm a noob, what's "WIFOM"?

**ULC** · 01-08-2009, 04:33

Originally Posted by seireikhaan

WIFOM= Wine In Front Of Me, referencing the scene from Princess Bride. "Well, I wouln't use such odd behavior if I was a mafioso, but I might do it if I knew that you knew I wouldn't use such odd behavior. Unless I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew that I wouldn't use such odd behavior". Basically, that's what WIFOM is. Saying "Well, yes I'm using WIFOM" is in itself more WIFOM. You're practically oozing the stuff.

Shamelessly copied from SK's post in the Golden Rule

**Chaotix** · 01-08-2009, 05:06

Been busy, so I'll just stop in to vote....

Vote: El Diablo

Because the write-up mentions the devil.

Well..... it's better than a random vote, I suppose.

**CountArach** · 01-08-2009, 05:18

I'd say that lynching LW is a waste of our time. He withdrew and as such his name is probably just on the list by accident. If he is not WoGed down the track we might want to look into why later - but for now we are missing a chance at lynching a mafioso by pure luck.

**glyphz** · 01-08-2009, 06:06

Vote: FactionHeir

I must ask.
Who's Bovine?

Tally:

Reenk Roink = 3 (WE:D, RR, TevashSzat)

TinCow = 2 (GeneralHankerchief, Ignoramus)
LordWinter = 2 (TC, Flax)
WhiteEyes:D = 2* (Caius, AtPG*)

YLC = 1 (CA)
Askthepizzaguy = 1 (187Beefyz)
CountArach = 1 (YLC)
boudica = 1 (Tiberius of the Drake)
TheFlax = 1 (ED)
Caius = 1 (I-K)
Ibn-Khaldun = 1 (woad&fangs)
El Diablo = 1 (Chaotix27)
FactionHeir = 1 (glyphz)
Bovine+ = 1 (FH)

+ =

**Reenk Roink** · 01-08-2009, 06:10

Originally Posted by glyphz

Vote: FactionHeir

I must ask.
Who's Bovine?

Tally:

Reenk Roink = 3 (WE:D, RR, TevashSzat)

TinCow = 2 (GeneralHankerchief, Ignoramus)
LordWinter = 2 (TC, Flax)
WhiteEyes:D = 2* (Caius, AtPG*)

YLC = 1 (CA)
Askthepizzaguy = 1 (187Beefyz)
CountArach = 1 (YLC)
boudica = 1 (Tiberius of the Drake)
TheFlax = 1 (ED)
Caius = 1 (I-K)
Ibn-Khaldun = 1 (woad&fangs)
El Diablo = 1 (Chaotix27)
FactionHeir = 1 (glyphz)
Bovine+ = 1 (FH)

+ =

Unvote: Reenk Roink
Vote: TinCow

I lied about everything (or did I?).

**glyphz** · 01-08-2009, 06:29

So.... bovine refers to cow = Tincow, no?

If true, my vote against FH stands...

for confusing me...

Tally:

TinCow = 4 (GeneralHankerchief, Ignoramus, FH, RR)

Reenk Roink = 2 (WE:D, TevashSzat)
LordWinter = 2 (TC, Flax)
WhiteEyes:D = 2* (Caius, AtPG*)

YLC = 1 (CA)
Askthepizzaguy = 1 (187Beefyz)
CountArach = 1 (YLC)
boudica = 1 (Tiberius of the Drake)
TheFlax = 1 (ED)
Caius = 1 (I-K)
Ibn-Khaldun = 1 (woad&fangs)
El Diablo = 1 (Chaotix27)
FactionHeir = 1 (glyphz)

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 01-08-2009, 06:41

Vote: abstain

On Reenk, I shall await developments.

Tincow is a bit quiet for him, but lynch-bait for out of character? Not yet.

**Beefy187** · 01-08-2009, 08:14

If bovine= cows then it could mean either Tincow or good ol Beefy

I demand change of vote at once!!

**Sigurd** · 01-08-2009, 10:25

Sorry about the late participation gents and lady,
Due to org database failure I was not able to participate yesterday.

Having a quick look at the game development, I must say that Askthepizzaguy, Tincow and the Reinkmaster is deliberately wanting attention.
I don't know what to make of it yet.

One thing I am sure of is when the Reinkmaster says he has a role, he usually does.
He has pointed to Tevashzat and accused him of being Mafioso. I can't see that Tevash has countered this allegation.
I also notice that Yoyoma is deliberately acting a tourist and needs to be checked out by any investigator in the game. Same with White_eyes?

I am not a follower of paranoia and getting rid of players based on previous games. Getting TinCow for his previous actions in the first round is just mean. True, he has put himself in the spotlight with his opening remarks, but Reeink claims a powerful role and names Tevashzat as a Mafioso.

Why not act on this? This would be the logic thing in a first round
(BTW.. why not show support for your own allegations Reeink?).

vote:Tevashzat

**boudica** · 01-08-2009, 10:28

Boudica scratched her head and went back to studying the back of her Map of Ephesus. She had made a comprehensive list of all her fellow tourists on it; in order to make notes about their behaviour and already the cross-referencing and comments were making it resemble the scribblings of a schizophrenic maths genius.

Having listened to the gathered tourists for a while she noted that 9 of them still hadn’t spoken and 11 had only commented to vote for who they thought should be lynched.
Boudica erased the letter ‘L’ (for Lurker) that she’d had next to the names of CountArach and YLC, and changed it to an ‘M’ (for Mental).

With an inward ‘Doh!’ she realised that while she had made a note of who had voted for whom, she hadn’t listed in which order they had voted, and so spent the next five minutes worrying if that might be important.

Wondering how the hell she was supposed to make an informed decision about who to vote for she idly doodled a picture of a cockerel on her list next to Reenk Roink’s name.and randomly picked from those who were still lurking:

Vote: Jolt

New Tally (assuming – as was implied - that ‘bovine’ is TinCow):

TinCow = 3 (GeneralHankerchief, RR, Ignoramus)
LordWinter = 2 (TC, Flax)
WhiteEyes:D = 2* (Caius, AtPG*)
Reenk Roink = 2 (WE:D , TevashSzat)

YLC = 1 (CA)
Askthepizzaguy = 1 (187Beefyz)
CountArach = 1 (YLC)
boudica = 1 (Tiberius of the Drake)
TheFlax = 1 (ED)
Caius = 1 (I-K)
Ibn-Khaldun = 1 (woad&fangs)
El Diablo = 1 (Chaotix27)
FactionHeir = 1 (glyphz)
Jolt = 1 (boudica)
TevashSzat = 1 (Sigurd)
Abstain = 1 (Seamus Fermanagh)

**Andres** · 01-08-2009, 10:42

Hosts' tally:

TinCow (aka Bovine) : 4 (GeneralHankerchief, Ignoramus, FactionHeir, Reenk Roink)

Lord Winter : 2 (TinCow, TheFlax)
Reenk Roink : 2 (Tevashzat, White_Eyes:D)

YLC : 1 (CountArach)
CountArach : 1 (YLC)
Askthepizzaguy : 1 (Beefy187)
boudica : 1 (Tiberius of the Drake)
TheFlax : 1 (El Diablo)
Withe_Eyes:D : 1 (Caius)
Caius : 1 (Ibn-Khaldun)
Ibn-Khaldun : 1 (woad&fangs)
El Diablo: 1 (Chaotix27)
FactionHeir : 1 (glyphz)
Tevashzat : 1 (Sigurd)
Jolt : 1 (boudica)
Abstain : 1 (Seamus Fermanagh)

Not voted : everybody else.

Note 1 : if you use a nickname, please make it clear who you mean (by putting the username of that person in brackets or spoil tags)
Note 2 : Lord Winter informed me that he won't be able to be online this week, but he'll be able to play after that; as such I will not WoG LW for inactivity in this first week.
Note 3 : I understand ATPG wanted his night vote to count, but rules are rules. You have to vote during day time. Idem dito for night orders: they have to be sent during night.

**Jolt** · 01-08-2009, 12:29

vote: Reek Roink

For being an apparent a**. Dunno, was gonna vote on Sigurd again, but decided to lynch RR.

**Andres** · 01-08-2009, 12:44

Please, let's try to avoid making posts that smell like something that resembles something personal.

Also, I prefer

over a**

Flowers are lovely, they smell good and they make me happy.

**TinCow** · 01-08-2009, 13:03

Unvote: Lord Winter
Vote: Reek Roink

Pure self preservation vote. Will switch elsewhere if another option pops up, since I don't think he's a wise target right now.

**Yoyoma1910** · 01-08-2009, 16:06

Vote: Pizza

Before that nice young student died, he specifically told me he didn't trust the Pizza Place around here.

He seemed like such a nice boy wih a a good future ahead of him.

*snaps a photo of the giant viking pointing a finger at him.*

**Reenk Roink** · 01-08-2009, 16:06

Sigh, no offense townies, but you need to open your minds a bit...

Has it ever occurred to you that a pro-town person has quite a bit of tools to help the town but is also quite insane and encouraged to act in that manner?

I'm getting the same reception as last time from a lot (to those who are thinking on it more:

). What should be a fun role is instead met with the same suspicion. That's the one part of Mafia I don't like. It's OK to have all sorts of poor reasons to vote for people as long as people ACT normal...

Roleplaying rarely works in this game, which is a darn shame.

Now my hand has been basically forced and if I'm not lynched I will probably be killed by the Mafia. Whatever.

**TinCow** · 01-08-2009, 16:12

Like I said, RR, I don't consider you a good lynch. If you would like to propose an alternate target, we could both switch our votes off each other and perhaps do something more useful for the town.

**Yoyoma1910** · 01-08-2009, 16:13

Oh hey, it's ok there little lady/man...

Here if it makes you feel any better:

unvote:Pizza
Vote:tevash

...I now seem to usually vote for him on the first round anyway.

*snaps a photo of the nonman.*

Gotta show that one back in Peoria too.

**Quintus.JC** · 01-08-2009, 17:23

I don't see any reason to lynch Tincow right now in this game, the reasoning for his lynch is poor. Reenik has made him an obvious lynch target with his posts, I wouldn't mind if the day ends with his demise. For now I'll put another candidate in the race, and see how things developes.

Vote: Tevashzat

**ULC** · 01-08-2009, 17:26

Sorry Reenk, but your forcing my brain to think in certain pattern to deal with you, and I don't like being forced to think in a certain way - I get vengeful. Also, so far your voting behavior does not add up with what you are saying, so I'm not going to vote how you ask me too until you start living up to what you say.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 01-08-2009, 17:50

Too early to tell about the Reenkster. When he's awake and playing, he's like this. When he's not, he's a near total lurker.

Tincow is a devious sort, but we shouldn't hold that against him.

Best reasoning so far was Sigurd. I'll follow that.

Vote: Tev

So....

Reenk Roink : 4 (Jolt, Tevashzat, TinCow, White_Eyes:D)
Tevashzat : 4 (Quintus, Seamus, Sigurd, Yoyo)
TinCow (aka Bovine) : 4 (GeneralHankerchief, Ignoramus, FactionHeir, Reenk Roink)

Askthepizzaguy : 1 (Beefy187)
boudica : 1 (Tiberius of the Drake)
Caius : 1 (Ibn-Khaldun)
CountArach : 1 (YLC)
El Diablo: 1 (Chaotix27)
FactionHeir : 1 (glyphz)
Ibn-Khaldun : 1 (woad&fangs)
Jolt : 1 (boudica)
Lord Winter : 1 (TheFlax)
TheFlax : 1 (El Diablo)
White_Eyes:D : 1 (Caius)
YLC : 1 (CountArach)

**White_eyes:D** · 01-08-2009, 18:05

Hmmm....about the Reenkster, I have been right the past two games about having suspicions over wither he was Pro-town or not...but for some reason I think he is Pro-town or neutral....(I might have gone insane....thinking that....but oh well....

)

Unvote:Reenk
Vote:Tevashzat

Tevashzat : 5 (Quintus, Seamus, Sigurd, Yoyo, White_Eyes:D)

TinCow (aka Bovine) : 4 (GeneralHankerchief, Ignoramus, FactionHeir, Reenk Roink)

Reenk Roink : 3 (Jolt, Tevashzat, TinCow)

Askthepizzaguy : 1 (Beefy187)
boudica : 1 (Tiberius of the Drake)
Caius : 1 (Ibn-Khaldun)
CountArach : 1 (YLC)
El Diablo: 1 (Chaotix27)
FactionHeir : 1 (glyphz)
Ibn-Khaldun : 1 (woad&fangs)
Jolt : 1 (boudica)
Lord Winter : 1 (TheFlax)
TheFlax : 1 (El Diablo)
White_Eyes:D : 1 (Caius)
YLC : 1 (CountArach)

**Thermal** · 01-08-2009, 18:13

Originally Posted by YLC

I am just luckless.

compared to me your lucky, are you looking for sympathy unduely?
Tincows self-preservation vote is suspicious, players say its a random vote but it doesn't seem it to me, certain vote ideas are without explanation.
And Reenk is just your easy vote, townies are voting without thought, if andres is a crafty game host he'll have destroyed towns poor strategy before long, hope you don't mind me interfering, but i'd give reenk a chance, having said that i wouldn't vote tevash yet until you have more evidence either way (also andres i am allow to contribute still aren't i?)

And i'll :Dead vote: Tincow

**White_eyes:D** · 01-08-2009, 18:23

Originally Posted by 777Ares777

compared to me your lucky, are you looking for sympathy unduely?
Tincows self-preservation vote is suspicious, players say its a random vote but it doesn't seem it to me, certain vote ideas are without explanation.
And Reenk is just your easy vote, townies are voting without thought, if andres is a crafty game host he'll have destroyed towns poor strategy before long, hope you don't mind me interfering, but i'd give reenk a chance, having said that i wouldn't vote tevash yet until you have more evidence either way (also andres i am allow to contribute still aren't i?)

And i'll :Dead vote: Tincow

Unvote:Tevashzat Vote:Tincow Ares makes sense....Tincows weird self-preservation vote, stinks of Mafia....

**ULC** · 01-08-2009, 18:24

Now that I have time to think on it, I'll...

Unvote: CountArach
Vote:TevashSzat

**TinCow** · 01-08-2009, 18:33

Anyone who willingly goes to their death in mafia is a fool. There seems to be this absurd notion in mafia games that townies should be happy to die. I see no advantage whatsoever to townies letting themselves get lynched. That's one less vote for the town and one less target that the mafia have to kill off. If you want to hold my desire to remain alive in the game against me, so be it. I have never been, nor will I ever be, content to simply be lynched if there is any possible way to avoid it.

**Thermal** · 01-08-2009, 19:05

Originally Posted by TinCow

Anyone who willingly goes to their death in mafia is a fool. There seems to be this absurd notion in mafia games that townies should be happy to die. I see no advantage whatsoever to townies letting themselves get lynched. That's one less vote for the town and one less target that the mafia have to kill off. If you want to hold my desire to remain alive in the game against me, so be it. I have never been, nor will I ever be, content to simply be lynched if there is any possible way to avoid it.

But this with your also over-exaggerated behavior makes a case

And is it coincidence that YLC changes his vote after tincow gets more votes than tevash? he votes for tevash when tincow is in danger, to re-even it, could YLC be linked with tincow?, this with YLC's "sypathy votes" when he doesnt seem that unlucky makes him a secondary suspect to me, if he was to be mafia, i would then vote against tincow or vica versa, I'm happy i was took notice of by white eyes

but i am non the less a dead man, and i've been wrong in the past so listen at your disgression.

Basically YLC changing his vote right after white eyes to save tincow is scum of the earth behavior to me, and if he doesnt give detailed justification or re think, i would say tincow and YLC could just be mafia

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