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    It shouldn't be just maturity to deal with the action. But the maturity to deal with the logical consequences. How many 15 year olds lives will be fine if they have a child at that age?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    It shouldn't be just maturity to deal with the action. But the maturity to deal with the logical consequences. How many 15 year olds lives will be fine if they have a child at that age?
    Not many, but how 15 year olds will care that the age of consent is 16 or 18 or 54? These kind of things fall under the families domain not the states.
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    That's what sex ed, contrareception and - if need be - abortion is for...
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    That's what sex ed, contrareception and - if need be - abortion is for...
    I realize.
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    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Not many, but how 15 year olds will care that the age of consent is 16 or 18 or 54? These kind of things fall under the families domain not the states.
    Only if the state does not have to pick up the tab for the children's child.
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    Only if the state does not have to pick up the tab for the children's child.
    I fear I have lost something in translation. Are you saying that these laws should only be enforced when 1. A child comes about and 2. Parents can't pay for said child?
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Only if the state does not have to pick up the tab for the children's child.
    So if there over eighteen then its fine for welfare to pay?
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    No, what I'm saying is that the idea that it is okay if they are mature is rubbish. Maturity is not the only thing to consider when playing at making babies.

    One should also have the financial ability to look after the consequences of pregnancy. And the state gets a larger say nowadays because of welfare issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    No, what I'm saying is that the idea that it is okay if they are mature is rubbish. Maturity is not the only thing to consider when playing at making babies.

    One should also have the financial ability to look after the consequences of pregnancy. And the state gets a larger say nowadays because of welfare issues.
    I see and agree.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Maturity is not the only thing to consider when playing at making babies.

    So it is only the potential for babies that is the problem with it ?

    If kids were using other sexual methods would it be more acceptable ?

    If not where do we draw the line, you can kiss but not tongues, you can use tongues but keep all your clothes on...

    One should also have the financial ability to look after the consequences of pregnancy. And the state gets a larger say nowadays because of welfare issues.

    So for example a 14 yr old paris hilton is fine to have a kid. But Bob the long term unemployed 40 yr old... shouldn't...
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