Girls hate my muscles, GAH!!!!

[Husar]

And then suffer the consequences of being shunned by your peers and called homosexual.
That's what I never get. If you say you don't want to have sex right now or go after that girl, you are called homosexual...

The problem there are the peers. Look for other peers or just ignore them.
Though it also got me enraged when I was younger and someone called me a homosexual. Not anymore though, nowadays I embrace it, bathe in it, hug the guy or something, if he is a homophobe he will be careful what he says next time, if not he will know you have a sense of humour.

[Banquo's Ghost]

The problem there are the peers.

This is the truth.

To gorgeous women, it matters not what you look like if you have excessive money and a castle.

[KukriKhan]

... it matters not what you look like if you have excessive money and a castle.

I have a spare 10 bucks, and an alleged 1500's Irish castle:



Now, I await those phonecalls from Sophia Loren, Ann Margaret & Raquel Welch.

[Incongruous]

I have a spare 10 bucks, and an alleged 1500's Irish castle:



Now, I await those phonecalls from Sophia Loren, Ann Margaret & Raquel Welch.

Yay!



I take it you are going for that "very, very antique look". talking about the castle of coarse...

[Sigurd]

I was told today by a good female friend, in a rather off hand manner that guys with large muscles are not at the top of a Girl's "to do list", they would rather do a skinny little weener instead. I was shocked, and at the same time, hurt, in the way only large muscular guys can feel, so I went to the boxing club and did some skipping.

Is this news to anyone else out there? I thought women loved good muscle development, clearly I was wrong.

What should I do? I love my squats!

Just wait until she ovulate, she might have a different opinion.

I am saying this because I distinctly remember there being a questionnaire about this very subject.
They tested x number of girls in uni with the question: do you prefer the masculine muscle man or the soft man. Depending on their menstruation cycle, they answered differently. The girls that were ovulating had the hots for the big guys, while those on the other end of the cycle wanted the soft caring man.

I was seriously into training when I was in high school and college and frankly, I can’t remember a time that I didn’t have a girl friend.
My wife is still complementing my torso and biceps, but not all the time though… I wonder …

[Thermal]

When you say things like this God kills a kitten.

That is a very ignorant statement. Well toned is a fallacy and steroids are not some "magic" drug.

thats why i said NO steroids

[Strike For The South]

thats why i said NO steroids

The point is that it would take years for you to reach your potential before you needed drugs to enhance your physique or strength. People take steroids for a reason, it is a misunderstood subject and I'll leave it at that.

The common view of steroids is some guy in your local gym shooting up so he can have "TEH HOOGE GUNZ" is just flat out wrong.

[Ice]

The opposite happened to me. After about 6 months of weight lifting and losing about 5 pounds of body fat off my stomach, I had more girls flirting with me. I have no idea regarding your situation.

[Beefy187]

How tall are you Bopa?

[Spino]

I was told today by a good female friend, in a rather off hand manner that guys with large muscles are not at the top of a Girl's "to do list", they would rather do a skinny little weener instead. I was shocked, and at the same time, hurt, in the way only large muscular guys can feel, so I went to the boxing club and did some skipping.

Is this news to anyone else out there? I thought women loved good muscle development, clearly I was wrong.

What should I do? I love my squats!

Well that's good news for a skinny guy like me! I haven't worked out since I took a desk job back in 2000.

Bopa, come to the States. The women here are ridiculously shallow and go bananas over any dolt with a gym body (I am not implying you're a dolt, I'm just saying). Get a tan and get kitted out out in a nice outfit that highlights your physique then go to a club that plays that abominable noise they call hip-hop and you'll be on the receiving end of a booty grind or two in no time... if you like that sort of thing.

People in general prefer toned bodies over non-toned ones but culturally speaking I can't think of any country that places greater value on an action figure physique than the United States. Makes perfect sense considering the cultural animosity directed towards any meaningful expression of intellect.

[Strike For The South]

Well that's good news for a skinny guy like me! I haven't worked out since I took a desk job back in 2000.

Bopa, come to the States. The women here are ridiculously shallow and go bananas over any dolt with a gym body (I am not implying you're a dolt, I'm just saying). Get a tan and get kitted out out in a nice outfit that highlights your physique then go to a club that plays that abominable noise they call hip-hop and you'll be on the receiving end of a booty grind or two in no time... if you like that sort of thing.

People in general prefer toned bodies over non-toned ones but culturally speaking I can't think of any country that places greater value on an action figure physique than the United States. Makes perfect sense considering the cultural animosity directed towards any meaningful expression of intellect.

For the record. Those club guys who wear the affliction/tap out stuff are the bane of actual meatheads.

[Decker]

For the record. Those club guys who wear the affliction/tap out stuff are the bane of actual meatheads.

Seconded

[Maion Maroneios]

Seconded

Thirded

Maion

[KukriKhan]

Four- wait.

bane= n a person or thing that ruins or spoils

...who wear the affliction/tap out stuff are the bane of...

Maybe there's a new "bane", and I don't know what 'affliction/tap out stuff' is. Please explain to an old man.

Are we talking clothes, or attitude, or something else?

[Strike For The South]

Are we talking clothes, or attitude, or something else?

All three really. With the advent of MMA and the UFC these guys are infesting the club scenes which doesn't really pose a threat to me as the club is somewhere I go with a ladyfriend if I simply want to go out I will find somewhere to drink heavily. However these boys also walk into my gyms and that is very much my area.

They walk around with there chests all puffed out and act like they are carrying a watermelon each arm. They think they can take anyone because they did some presses and curls and even went to a few classes for muay thai or grappling or whatever.

What they fail to realize is that building serious muscle is hard work and learning how to fight is hard work. They are legends in there own 160lb minds. They roll 50 deep and all think there bros can take on anyone they come across. They think they are Gods gift to women and they deserve respect and in genral they show no respect.

In a nutshell they are merely boys in 16-24 yr old bodies whose egos are writing checks there mouth can't cash.

[Incongruous]

How tall are you Bopa?

This might be the sticking point, Im five foot and nine inches, thus my position in the front row of a scrum and my enthusiasim for boxing.

[Beefy187]

Here we go.. Inches

around 175 cm. Usual story is that if you start training up too early, you'll end up fairly short.
They say the girls likes her partners shoulder to be around her head height. Not that I got confirmation of this story

I envy you Bopa. I wish if I had a little more muscle

[LittleGrizzly]

This might be the sticking point, Im five foot and nine inches

Gah! the bane of my exsistance!

[Adrian II]

To gorgeous women, it matters not what you look like if you have excessive money and a castle.

I have found that it's a big help if you actually have a life. It's a bit of a waste, really, to sit your castle burning money, beat your brains out in the gym or live in a cave whilst studying hormone cycles like Sigurd. Girls go for character, in other words. That's why the ugliest guys sometimes end up with the nicest girls.

Oh, and another thing. Weight lifters and other gym types are known to have, um, issues with lifting a certain bodily part...

[Husar]

Oh, and another thing. Weight lifters and other gym types are known to have, um, issues with lifting a certain bodily part...

Yeah, but luckily you just said girls go for character.

Although I have a certain suspicion that you actually meant something a bit different than just character because character is a somewhat broad term, the character you describe I do not have but nonetheless I'd say I have a character.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Here we go.. Inches

around 175 cm. Usual story is that if you start training up too early, you'll end up fairly short.
They say the girls likes her partners shoulder to be around her head height. Not that I got confirmation of this story

I envy you Bopa. I wish if I had a little more muscle

I heard that about the hight thing, think about it though: If there's some 4-6 inches difference it makes the kissing and cuddling more ergonomic.

[LeftEyeNine]

I'm pretty sure that AdrianII referred to character as " the obvious distinction of attitudes, tastes and point of view from the others and the comfort of self-expression".

I'm truly ugly yet I attract attention of hotties once I find room to express myself.

Muscles help with first impressions. I'd not neglect them indeed.

[Incongruous]

I'm pretty sure that AdrianII referred to character as " the obvious distinction of attitudes, tastes and point of view from the others and the comfort of self-expression".

I'm truly ugly yet I attract attention of hotties once I find room to express myself.

Muscles help with first impressions. I'd not neglect them indeed.

I express myself by taking up space.

[SwordsMaster]

I express myself by taking up space.

Haha, just for the record, someone should siggy that.

As of the other stuff, it depends on the women. I generally find that women I wouldn't spend more than a night with go for muscles, shaved chests, tatoos on your ass, big cars, that sort of thing.

Now, as I drive a rental, refuse to shave anything below my neck, and weight a healthy 90kg with bodyfat around 20%, I just generally don't care.

Besides, as someone said before, girls go for manly. So just think of what would Clint Eastwood do in your situation, and do it, and you'll have no problems.

As of what women say, that was never a good indicator of anything. Every hear your ex say you're the most important thing in her life just days before breaking up with you? Exactly.

[LeftEyeNine]

I express myself by taking up space.

Well if your expectations with your partner are including but not limited to "does not have to be wise", then you're already one male archetype.

[Sigurd]

I have found that it's a big help if you actually have a life. It's a bit of a waste, really, to sit your castle burning money, beat your brains out in the gym or live in a cave whilst studying hormone cycles like Sigurd. Girls go for character, in other words. That's why the ugliest guys sometimes end up with the nicest girls.

Oh, and another thing. Weight lifters and other gym types are known to have, um, issues with lifting a certain bodily part...

Just for the record... I do not live in a cave and study hormone cycles. I was just trying to cheer up the fellar. I happened to read it in some tabloid newspaper, but never followed up by checking documentation. I don't know if someone refuted it.

But I agree with the philosophy on the nicest girls wanting character. But the complaint was general, as in all girls hate muscle. This is erroneous and many of the muscular guys here will confirm this.

I am however outdated. My time were the 90'ies and back then you were never short of sweet admirers. If you could jump the highest, dunk a basket, lift the heaviest or run the fastest, you had instant popularity with the "popular" girls. In quotes because they were merely a pretty face with social skills.
I was the arm wrestling champion in my high school. I had the track record on 60m sprint and was the only one in my class that could dunk a basketball. The girls invited me out. Thinking back, I never asked a girl out during high school or college (gymnas).

My turning point came in the Navy. Somehow I built a character and the pretty faces was not intellectual stimulating.
Then I met my wife. What a woman. She had a pretty face and a brain.
I fell in love and it was a distant affair at first. She accepted a date proposal and we went out with friends.
She thought I was a jerk, acting my usual self. We had dinner and I was used to the officer boot camp way of eating. She told me later that she had never seen anyone finish their dinner faster.
I wrote her when I was stationed up north and she replied courteously. But there was no spark from her side.

A change of tactic had to be applied. I started sending her stuff anonymously. For valentines day, I sent her a poem that I calligraphed with a real inc pen. It was sonnet 18 by Shakespeare. I drove to a different suburb and posted it.
I joined a choir and became 1st tenor. I said yes to participate in a few operas and concerts. I once heard that she wanted to see Carmina Burana by Carl Off.
I was in the choir there and I told her that I could get tickets. She was a bit reluctant, but I said: I get discount as I am in the choir. She looked surprised and I got my hopes up again.
I later invited her to see Tosca and we had a good time with dinner and Opera. I ate normally and made sure to converse during the meal.
From the moment I first invited her out and till we became lovers, 5 years had passed.
It took FIVE years to get the love of my life, but her wakeup went fast. From the Burana concert and making joint future plans went within a few months.

My final point here is: She has later confided in me that she likes muscular men. She just needed one with a brain.

I was married before I asked her about the anonymous letters and poems.
When she realized it was me who had sent them ... well that is another story.

[LeftEyeNine]

Commitment to the right person never gets away unrewarded. What a sweet story that was, Sigurd

[Adrian II]

My final point here is: She has later confided in me that she likes muscular men. She just needed one with a brain.

I was married before I asked her about the anonymous letters and poems.
When she realized it was me who had sent them ... well that is another story.

Wow, that is quite a story, Sigurd. Sorry if I sounded rather terse on the subject of hormones.

However my slight about the supposed sexual impotence of muscular gymnasts has a factual basis. I think this is not due to the muscle enhancing drugs that some of them take, even though some drugs are known to suppress sexual appatite. I think this is due to the low self-esteem that quite a few of them suffer from, which causes them to spend endless hours in the gym in the first place. So gymmania =/= impotence, but vanity, self-absorption and low self-esteem lead to both.

Women usually know or intuit this. However, if a man has muscle because of his job (construction, fire brigade, military) they tend do love it because it's 'real' (i.e. functional).

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Most guys start working out for sports and once you've started it becomes a habit like taking a shower everyday and brushing your teeth. You feel dirty if you don't take a shower and restless if you don't exercise.

[Strike For The South]

Wow, that is quite a story, Sigurd. Sorry if I sounded rather terse on the subject of hormones.

However my slight about the supposed sexual impotence of muscular gymnasts has a factual basis. I think this is not due to the muscle enhancing drugs that some of them take, even though some drugs are known to suppress sexual appatite. I think this is due to the low self-esteem that quite a few of them suffer from, which causes them to spend endless hours in the gym in the first place. So gymmania =/= impotence, but vanity, self-absorption and low self-esteem lead to both.

Women usually know or intuit this. However, if a man has muscle because of his job (construction, fire brigade, military) they tend do love it because it's 'real' (i.e. functional).

Factual Bias? O RLY? Your post is filled with myth and just flat out lies. Just because the stereotypical bodybuilder is shown in magazines and on TV doesn't mean its true.

Women know this? Not here.

Trust me, muscle built in the gym is very functional.