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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandy Blue View Post
    This isn't exactly on topic, but close enough.

    You know those fortification upgrades that don't change your fortification type but do make it easier to defend? I'm talking about ballista towers, catapult towers, etc. I never build them because my plan is to invade other peoples' territory, not let them invade mine. Sure there are times they would be very handy, but it just doesn't seem to be worth the cost and build time. Since I've never seen them mentioned on this site, I assume other players don't use them either.

    So, I think they might be - not exactly lost features, but features which would have been useful if they had been fully implemented.

    By the way, does anyone ever bother to build them? If so, why?
    I tend to build castle upgrades in what I consider to be my "border" areas. If I have a province that I intend to use as my kingdom/empire's frontier, then I'll often max out the castle defenses there. Yes, I know the towers tend to fire at my own walls, but I like 'em anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martok View Post
    I tend to build castle upgrades in what I consider to be my "border" areas. If I have a province that I intend to use as my kingdom/empire's frontier, then I'll often max out the castle defenses there. Yes, I know the towers tend to fire at my own walls, but I like 'em anyway.
    Same here. I sometimes leave one of those provinces - once maxed out on defense - lightly guarded, just to have a nice siege defense with all this extra boom. I mean, I payed for it, so I want so see it make boom...

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    I never build upgrades as I never intentionally retreat to the castle. I tend to fight battles in the open and drive the enemy off with great slaughter... [jk]hiding behind walls is for women and belongs in the realm of ancient warfare.[/jk] I've never yet sat in a citadel and fought off the mongols either. Being under siege or sieging just goes against the grain. I find that 9/10 times that you go under siege, the AI will choose to sit it out until your men starve, and having a large enough garrison to withstand a siege means that the siege will probably only last two years at which point you'll be forced to sally with your units under strength. I will fight siege defences every time though when it comes down to it. When I'm sieging I tend to starve out my enemies when possible, or I will assault immediately and auto resolve or send in a spy to open the gates, but because I never play sieges, siege equipment is useless to me.

    My preferred fortification type is probably the fort and motte. It's simple and you can get your missile units positioned on the slope with your spears facing the gate and swords, flankers to the left and right with the cavalry behind. The whole trick to this is turning on/off fire at will and making sure that your melee units don't get too ambitious and flood through the gate chasing routers. I've racked up massive kills using this technique against numerically superior foes. Even if you cannot win it's good for a pyhhric victory (makes it harder for the attackers to hold onto your province with the reduced troop numbers).
    Last edited by caravel; 01-19-2009 at 11:17. Reason: typos as ever...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caravel View Post
    ...I never intentionally retreat to the castle. I tend to fight battles in the open and drive the enemy off with great slaughter... [jk]hiding behind walls is for women and belongs in the realm of ancient warfare.[/jk]
    Haha! Well put!

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    I remember messing around with the files so that you had to build most of the improvements in a castle before getting to the next level. I think I did this after it began to be discussed in the Pocket Mod forum. The idea was to make upgrades even harder, and avoid having citadels littering the landscape.

    I did quite a bit of editing in that regard. I also changed the workings of spearmen and cavalry. I wonder if I still have the files. My final configuration of the workings of troops was fairly balanced (and made cavalry and spearmen work more realistically, to boot), and I'd hate to have to start trying numbers over and over again
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