Honestly, if I was still alive, I would have investigated GH by now, and even if he was innocent (unlikely) I would have killed him because of Reenkness 201...
No, way is GH innocent he had too much time to role-block everyone and not come up with something......Town is eating out of his hand....
No, way is GH innocent he had too much time to role-block everyone and not come up with something......Town is eating out of his hand....
Oh yeah, every single round I fight off the vultures and barely survive a lynch, of course they're eating out of my hand.
And I already explained, there are too many variations on nighttime activities for anyone to conclusively know how successful I've been.
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006
Originally Posted by TosaInu
At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.
And I already explained, there are too many variations on nighttime activities for anyone to conclusively know how successful I've been.
Really? Your total inability to do anything to keep ATPG alive seems pretty conclusive to me. Or are you still choosing to ignore that little flaw in your story?
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006
Originally Posted by TosaInu
At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.
GH began pm'ing me with the names of those receiving his attentions on a given night at the time he indicates. His stated reason was to have me able (providing I was not myself killed) to share those names with the town should he be killed. GH claimed to have posted the same PM to Andres as to me so that Andres would be aware it was legit for me to refer to it. The names were always provided to me in advance of Andres posting.
I am still at a loss to explain the beast image at my near-killing or the link to John the Divine. The only link between a beast and St. John is the Apocalypto (Revelations)....and I'm not sure where to take that one.
I cannot confirm GH's intent in sending me the PM info, only the intention he stated to me.
Here is the text of Andres' PM to me following N7.
"What was that?" you wonder. "It didn't seem... human..."
Be afraid, tourist, be very afraid...
***
An old man calms you down and takes you with him. He wants to show you something, he says.
He takes you to a secret hiding place and starts talking to you. He tells you several stories. They are boring and you fall asleep.
Andres.
In retrospect, the *** DOES imply that GH's taking me to a hiding place did NOT protect me from the supernatural event.
I'm still at a loss to explain all of this.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
From your votes which failed to nab the baddies, from your misleading analyses so far, from your failure to block the mafia properly after all this time, from the fact that you're still alive, I'd say that you are correct. Had you nailed one mafia so far, I might be able to believe you. If your hands were clean, I might. If you agreed with anything I've said so far... If, if, if.
I wish death upon you in this game. Join me in the netherworld, my friend.
Really? Your total inability to do anything to keep ATPG alive seems pretty conclusive to me. Or are you still choosing to ignore that little flaw in your story?
For the love of Andres, it's time to put a stop to GeneralHankerchief.
I have done a serious analysis of the game. People, I KNOW you just endured a whole lot of analysis. Please be patient and listen to mine, I beg of thee.
In spoilers for neatness.
My mafia game analysis system has revealed the following players are suspect:
GeneralHankerchief: Suspect Number One
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Scummy behavior: Asks to ignore Reenk Roink, Veiled threat against me post 383, supposed defense of me failed, still alive, excessive post edits post 600, post 616 stalling, 626 scummy post, says he's not a townie, claims he is town's greatest asset (651), claims he is the victim of a conspiracy, questions Askthepizzaguy's methods (I know I am townie, and he's far too dismissive of me anyway), Doom and Gloom posts, highly defensive, lots of non-useful posts, excuses, point-by-point rebuttals.
He's failed to block the mafia out of how many attempts???? He's had his chance, he's failed us, he's mislead us, and he should have been dead a LONG TIME AGO!!!!
Chaotix: Suspect Number Two
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Scummy behavior: He's been one of the deciding votes in small, bad lynches, asked people to ignore me, he's been hypocritical, he's bandwagonned, he votes for veteran players with weak reasoning, gives lots of excuses for not being a better player, votes with no reasons behind it often.
I have played with him in the past. This is a bad performance in comparison to previous. He's done nothing helpful, and plenty to hurt us. He's given the worst performance I've ever seen, and he meets the criteria of my mafia scum behavior pattern (50 search parameters, with 10 parameters WAY above baseline, and NO EXAMPLES of really useful townie behavior.
LYNCH HIM.
Boudica: Suspect Number Three
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
She never followed through with any in-depth look at the thread, WHICH SHE PROMISED. she has contributed nothing positive and has been responsible for close executions. She is hypocritical, doom and gloomy, bandwagonny, Lurking, Lurking, Lurking, and only shows up to post when someone accuses her!!!
She is no one that town needs alive anymore. She can't hit the broad side of a barn when lynching mafia, and she's done nothing positive at all. GH defended her. She is anti-seireikhaan and anti-Jolt, and constantly gives excuses for not contributing more.
She is a top suspect, along with her crony GH.
187Beefyz: Suspect Number Four:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Beefy187 gives too many excuse posts instead of contributing positively, he voted me twice for no reason at the beginning of the game after I've demonstrated superior townie abilities, he's overly defensive, overuse of smileys, he lurks, he has several questionable posts "hard to post in this game" 599 Apologetic 454. Defends YLC with weak reasoning, blindly trusts GH! Calls for Kommodus-like player to come save town.
Well Kommodus is back, and he's come for your head, Beefy. A bad performance given your previous games. You're hardly ever mafia, and in this case, you're an abysmal townie at best.
Beefy can redeem himself in my eyes by working with the better townies to kill the suspects above him. Otherwise, I deem him useless (in this game. nothing personal Beefy. Nothing personal ANYONE. I loves you all!)
Borderline:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
YLC: Borderline. He has both pro-town and anti-town results in the analysis, but it's far too weighted to the mafia side. I don't trust him, and I doubt he will work with us to get the top suspects.
Yoyoma: Lurker, borderline.
Questionable but ok:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Ibn: Possible Townie, voting and not being manipulative.
Glyphz: Townie behavior: Asks reasonable questions Anti-YLC. good analysis, pays attention, good humor. Pro-Pizza post 366. Constant tallys. Woad thinks innocent.
Analysis: Probably town. Only responsible for one townie's death.
I haven't gone in depth, I only gave you the results. I wish to keep the LENGTHY reasons why each person is scummy, borderline, and townie to myself. believe or disbelieve, it's your choice.
TinCow is right, GH needs to die.
The above analysis is pre-"recent deaths" and may be amended shortly. EDIT: Checked, and confirmed townies only were lynched. System is working so far...
GH, Chaotix, Boudica, Beefy: If you truly are townie, and want to prove it to me, don't vote anymore except for the other three.
Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 01-22-2009 at 10:02.
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