Whispers in the Night - Mafia Game [Concluded]

[taka]

*looks at thread* Yep, another mafia victory.

right............


so we're doomed??

[ULC]

It would help if the town was actually active during it's day phase.

As a point of note, my write ups are not useless, reread them carefully, and do not analyze them so one dimensionally - I do all the write ups as well.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Town will do better with fewer dead townies.

If we have a good lead, I'm content to vote. If I am convinced our best option is a random vote, I'm content to vote. After I've done a thorough analysis of the game and the writeup, I am content to vote.

I will not doom an innocent player out of foolish haste. Risks should be calculated.

[Andres]

I've heard some whispering about dead being able to do nasty things.

YLC: this may sound weird, but can we lynch dead players?

[ULC]

You may not lynch dead players, and that is not how the dead are dealt with. So fear not about voting to lynch someone twice.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Uh huh. But the dead DO something, and town appears to be powerless to lynch them.

I'm not trying to scummily get town to not vote each other, by the way, in case anyone cares. I am postulating a theory, and when the analysis is complete, you will see me vote or confirm that I don't want to.

[ULC]

Oops, nothing to see here - that means you too Andres!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oops with a question mark is right. I think you're dropping hints.

[Andres]

Quintus has only 5 posts, only one of them was serious:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

It would just be an coincidence, or it could be the little details that the host put in the write-ups that have possibilities of being discovered by the players. Your reasoning is quite sound Aries

Vote: White_eyes

with little clue to go on, I think this is possibly our best option right now.

Vote : Quintus.JC

I'd like to hear more from you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

may i ask what we are voting for? since this is not a usual mafia game, are we voting for a mafia/killer/zombie/ghost?

i'll vote: abstain for now

"page" or post number 28. Writeup refers to page 28, and Mr. taka.

You will also notice two supernatural beings battling it out. Do we have a priest or an exorcist, or something of that nature, I wonder?

I am not asking you to reveal.

My guess that there are at least two "dead" factions battling it out seems to have some evidence in the last writeup.

[taka]

heck, that is a blummin' good discovery, ATPG

going on your theory, it could be zombie vs ghost

as for reveal, i am guessing that most people dont have a role (aside from the few at the begining) until we are either ghost killed or zombie killed, which would then maybe convert us and then "give" us a role

but im still not sure how townie are meant to win - i think we do have a priest/exorcists (since i was saved by someone). i think it would probably be a good idea that they contact me maybe

[Sigurd]

I think we need to lynch or kill the right player which will then deal with the dead (mafia).
Again, if YLC has followed the line that we discussed via PMs prior to this game, a certain dead player will be able to exterminate ghosts.

I guess this is all about second chances. Vanilla townies become mafia when dying and the pro-town will continue the pro-town efforts in the after life.

[Askthepizzaguy]

heck, that is a blummin' good discovery, ATPG

going on your theory, it could be zombie vs ghost

as for reveal, i am guessing that most people dont have a role (aside from the few at the begining) until we are either ghost killed or zombie killed, which would then maybe convert us and then "give" us a role

but im still not sure how townie are meant to win - i think we do have a priest/exorcists (since i was saved by someone). i think it would probably be a good idea that they contact me maybe

Taka, it's very risky and self-incriminating to ask that our best potential townie reveal themselves to ANYONE.

I advise any such person to think twice before doing so... it's VERY risky to just trust Taka. But if taka has reason for wanting this knowledge, he's either valuable to town (dead before the end of the game at the hands of ghosts) or a scum (we need to lynch him at some point)

In either case Taka, you need to die at some point methinks.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think it's almost unfair to use our knowledge of PM's with YLC in this game, in retrospect.

I would assume YLC changed the game enough to make it fair when we join it, though. I honestly don't remember much.


Edit: From what I gather from talking with YLC, we haven't figured anything critical out yet. But must analyze the writeups, accurately.

[taka]

Taka, it's very risky and self-incriminating to ask that our best potential townie reveal themselves to ANYONE.

I advise any such person to think twice before doing so... it's VERY risky to just trust Taka. But if taka has reason for wanting this knowledge, he's either valuable to town (dead before the end of the game at the hands of ghosts) or a scum (we need to lynch him at some point)

In either case Taka, you need to die at some point methinks.

fair do, i was thinking maybe i could vouch for them, but thinking twice, yes it could be risky since i could be killed next round by the same person.

[Andres]

but im still not sure how townie are meant to win - i think we do have a priest/exorcists (since i was saved by someone). i think it would probably be a good idea that they contact me maybe

Why should powerful pro-town roles contact you in private?

Please elaborate.

Unvote : Quintus ; Vote : taka

[taka]

Why should powerful pro-town roles contact you in private?

Please elaborate.

Unvote : Quintus ; Vote : taka

i already said not too

thinking properly, it would be too risky if i was killed and know who he was.

[taka]

the only thing i found on the write-up is the book:

Leonard Isaac Schiff. Particle Physics: 1956

i wonder if thats of any help (searched it up on google/wikipedia lol)

[taka]

or even alternavitely:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...0&postcount=72

chapter 9 - (to mean 2009?)
1956 - (the time 19:56?)

i have no idea why that post at all, but maybe someone can interperate this better?

i know im throwing around bits of information which even i dont know if it's relevant, but im looking hard at the write-ups

[Andres]

i already said not too

I know, but I'm interested in what you were thinking when you asked for pro-town roles to reveal to you.

[taka]

I know, but I'm interested in what you were thinking when you asked for pro-town roles to reveal to you.

at the time i genuinely thought:

i was thinking maybe i could vouch for them

but obviously that was a stupid mistake - i can see why everyone thinks im a noob lol

[Askthepizzaguy]

people do make mistakes. And in this game, seems to me the dead are our greatest threat.

However, taka, I still contend we will have to lynchee you eventually to be safe. I don't think bandwagonning you over one error is best at the moment.

[Andres]

Fair enough, taka.

I get the feeling that Aries is just holding off his vote strategically so he can place it when he wants to live...

Vote: 777Ares777

What makes you think that?

Unvote : taka ; Vote : Reenk Roink

[Askthepizzaguy]

I do not feel the need to defend anyone, they can do it themselves;

It's possible that those who abstain can monitor the tally and vote in a strategic manner to keep themselves alive. He may have the same theory.

I've been looking over the reasons others have voted. Some fair, early meatballish reasons. I can't say any of them have been compelling enough to warrant my involvement.

suddenly a dark impluse surges through Askthepizzaguy:

You can be mafia if you die. You are always suicidal with your life. You love being dead. Your avatar is a freaking zombie. Get yourself lynched... get yourself lynched...

Dangit! It's my blasted bloodlust again. Sorry, fellows. Although I am presently in a state where I would be happy dead or alive, I swear I'll try to be a good townie.

I'm far too attracted to death for this game.

...Lynch me please? No! No.... stay alive. Stay. Good boy.

[taka]

yes, i probably will need to be lynched soon - however hear my plea

let's not lynch anyone yet

i think it's our evil conscience when lynching that is killing people

looking at write-up lynch 1 about beefy, it seemed like he was possed or something when he "killed himself".

kill 1 also sounded like "someone" was possed by "something" that killed white-eyes, again his conscience or

"Your judgment"

played a role

lynch 2 happened in reenk's room:

A little while later, a scream was heard from Rene's room

attempted kill 2 - read my earlier posts (#169), i dunno whether they are of any use, but it could indicate something :S

i dont really know how to put it altogether, but thats all i can figure out atm from the write-ups

[Askthepizzaguy]

That has precisely the strange twisted logic that YLC would use when designing the game.

Something I would even come up with.




I admire that creative theory. I think it's even better than mine, by a long shot.

You have my attention. IS this your first mafia game? Or are you a veteran hiding behind a tiny post count?

[taka]

That has precisely the strange twisted logic that YLC would use when designing the game.

Something I would even come up with.




I admire that creative theory. I think it's even better than mine, by a long shot.

I dunno really, ive not played a YLC game before, and is the creative bit a good thing or bad?

You have my attention.

good thing or bad??

i kinda get confused what you mean sometimes coz... you post weird lol

IS this your first mafia game? Or are you a veteran hiding behind a tiny post count?

well its not my first game, but i am no where near a vet

[glyphz]

Town will do better with fewer dead townies.

If we have a good lead, I'm content to vote. If I am convinced our best option is a random vote, I'm content to vote. After I've done a thorough analysis of the game and the writeup, I am content to vote.

I will not doom an innocent player out of foolish haste. Risks should be calculated.

I'm agreeable in this tactic, esp. if dead people can be potential anti-town.
Vote: Abstain

Then again, there exist votes against other people already.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Indeed, and I think these could be very bad for town.

I hope people will reconsider their votes, but everyone has to play the game their own way I suppose.

[shlin28]

I can absolutely resolutely completely say that I am not mafia, and given my status as the selfless town, you guys should believe me

I really have no idea who to vote for (honest!), and I really don't get Taka and ATPG's conversation right now, so I'll just do it the old school way and look at the post counts...

Out of all players, 'khaan, Tevash and Glyphz has been uncharacteristically quiet.

'khaan has been hosting a game so I would kinda expect that.
Tevash - no idea.
glyphz, he managed to get 16 posts in Andres' game yet only 4 on here? and most of them are voting abstains

However, the general consensous seems to be wait and see, so I will do just that.

Vote: Abstain,