Thank you!

[Hax]

Freedom of speech does not give you the right to insult.

He has stated that "it [Islam] is a totalitarian ideology", and thus in his eyes all Muslims are a threat to the West. Pathetic.

[Lemur]

It may very well be pathetic, but is it criminal? Over here in the U.S. it would not be. And I kind of wonder if criminalizing distasteful speech is a super-duper bad idea.

[Hax]

It may very well be pathetic, but is it criminal? Over here in the U.S. it would not be. And I kind of wonder if criminalizing distasteful speech is a super-duper bad idea.

It is criminal indeed. He is discriminating muslims, which goes directly against Article 4 of the Dutch Constitution which states that every single person has freedom of religion. He is pushing the Muslims in a corner.

"Tear out half of the Koran if you wish to enter this country"

[Strike For The South]

Idiots say dumb things. It's not a crime.

If he had said the same about christians there would be nary a peep. See thats why I like France. At least they keep everything equal instead of catering to the group thats the most "scary" .

[Andres]

It is criminal indeed. He is discriminating muslims, which goes directly against Article 4 of the Dutch Constitution which states that every single person has freedom of religion. He is pushing the Muslims in a corner.

"Tear out half of the Koran if you wish to enter this country"

How is a random guy yelling "Islam is totalitarian" preventing another random guy to be a Muslim?

[Lemur]

It is criminal indeed. He is discriminating muslims, which goes directly against Article 4 of the Dutch Constitution which states that every single person has freedom of religion. He is pushing the Muslims in a corner.

I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand how he's doing this. He is criticizing Islam, yes, and he's being unfair and kind of dickish about it, but how is that discrimination? How is that infringing on anyone's right to religion?

Are you allowed to say that the Catholic Church went out of its way to protect pedophile priests? Or is that pushing Catholics into a corner? Are you allowed to say that Scientology is frickin' insane? Are you allowed to say that Jewish girls are super-freaks in bed?

Where do you draw the line? As far as I can read, this guy wasn't saying, "Please kill a muslim!" which would be incitement to violence. He's just criticizing the religion itself. Where are you gonna go if you ban that? What kind of discourse can you have if you criminalize criticism?

Remember, the law is a blunt instrument, and while this guy may be an unsympathetic character, who else will such a law be used on? How about the weed-smoking dude who teaches comparative religion 101? If he says something critical about Islam, should he be imprisoned?

[Fragony]

I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand how he's doing this. He is criticizing Islam, yes, and he's being unfair and kind of dickish about it, but how is that discrimination? How is that infringing on anyone's right to religion?

Are you allowed to say that the Catholic Church went out of its way to protect pedophile priests? Or is that pushing Catholics into a corner? Are you allowed to say that Scientology is frickin' insane? Are you allowed to say that Jewish girls are super-freaks in bed?

Where do you draw the line? As far as I can read, this guy wasn't saying, "Please kill a muslim!" which would be incitement to violence. He's just criticizing the religion itself. Where are you gonna go if you ban that? What kind of discourse can you have if you criminalize criticism?

Remember, the law is a blunt instrument, and while this guy may be an unsympathetic character, who else will such a law be used on? How about the weed-smoking dude who teaches comparative religion 101? If he says something critical about Islam, should he be imprisoned?

Ya.

This mia muca's is what we call political prosecution, and this mia muca's will earn him at least 5 more seats in the parlement. I don't agree with Wilders he is blaming the wrong people, but he got me vote, because things like this. The lefties are doing exactly what I want them to do, abusing the system. It has been noted. http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_pe....cgi?wilders&1

Oh, and actually calling for violence, here is PM Harry van Bommel, naturally a member of the socialist party, actually calling for violence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23bM...eature=related

Of course not prosecuted.

[Fisherking]

It may very well be pathetic, but is it criminal? Over here in the U.S. it would not be. And I kind of wonder if criminalizing distasteful speech is a super-duper bad idea.

Noooo….that wouldn’t be a bad idea…so long as it is your side who gets to say which is good or which is bad…

But you may not like it too much if the other side gets to pick and choose!

Once you outlaw one kind of speech it gets easier to silence the opposition…good for the government twerps, but bad for the people!

[LittleGrizzly]

I haven't read the article.... may have been the silly lefties line that put me off slightly...

But completely free speech doesn't work, inciting violence for example...

[Devastatin Dave]

But completely free speech doesn't work, inciting violence for example...

So are you advocating banning the Quran then?

[Strike For The South]

So are you advocating banning the Quran then?

Ba Dum Tish

[Hax]

So are you advocating banning the Quran then?

So are you advocating banning the Bible then?

[drone]

People should have the right to say whatever they want, and you should the right to ignore or laugh at them whenever you want.

[ajaxfetish]

Freedom of speech does not give you the right to insult.

Umm . . . why not?

Ajax

[Hax]

My apologies, I spoke rashly and semi-angrily.

I will step down from this discussion for a while.