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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    What's so shocking? If you disagree with what someone is trying to do, you want them to fail.
    Hmm, not sure I can go there. I thought the invasion of Iraq was maybe the most misguided foreign policy decision of my lifetime, but I hoped it would succeed. If it had all been over in a few weeks, and Iraq paid for its own (brief) occupation, and a Jeffersonian democracy flowered between the Tigris and Euphrates, I would have been relieved and pleased.

    By your logic I should have been fervently wishing for OIF2 to fail. That's kinda messed up.

    I'm beginning to get the impression that Republican's don't really want to return to power anytime soon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    By your logic I should have been fervently wishing for OIF2 to fail. That's kinda messed up.
    Actually, by my logic, you would've been hoping for the AUMF vote to go down in defeat and for the president's foreign policy to be repudiated. But hey, have fun putting words in my mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    Actually, by my logic, you would've been hoping for the AUMF vote to go down in defeat and for the president's foreign policy to be repudiated. But hey, have fun putting words in my mouth.
    I didn't see any such distinctions in the way you phrased it originally, an I don't see any such distinctions in the words coming from Limbaugh, Hannity or Malkin. I certainly accept your clarification, but that info wasn't there originally.

    Do you think Malkin, Hannity and Limbaugh have equally fine and nuanced positions, or are they up to their usual demagoguery? I suspect the latter.

    It was unpatriotic to oppose Bush, but it's deeply patriotic to oppose Obama. Sounds about right for their level of discourse.

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    Limbaugh wants Reaganesque conservatism back at the forefront. Currently, the only standard bearer for that is Sarah Palin. I think its understandable that he's lashing out in frustration. He actually is consistent in that he took the same attitude with Clinton...as in the honeymoon, any admin advancing liberal/socialist/big government ideas must be opposed at every turn. He was also far more critical of Bush's big gov/socialist compromises than were the others named.

    Hannity has always been a GOP pit-bull. He pays lip service to overarching conservative doctrine but always "happens" to come down on the side of simplistic support for the attack machine wing of the GOP. His credibility with me is NOT affected by this latest round of commentary -- negative numbers are only an imaginary concept after all. I'm down to about 10 minutes max of him per radio program before I flip to NPR or local sports.

    Can't speak to Malkin; don't read/listen to much of Malkin's stuff.
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    Wait just am minute here!

    You are discussing News from ?The Daily Show???

    It isn’t like they are not coming from a particular point of view now is it.

    It is a comedy show for, god sake! And a bit left of center too….

    If you want to know where an administration stands look at the appointments.

    If you find you don’t like the people they are surrounding themselves with, then chances are you are not going to like the policies.

    It says a lot more than all of the partisan rhetoric!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    Wait just am minute here!

    You are discussing News from ?The Daily Show???

    It isn’t like they are not coming from a particular point of view now is it.

    It is a comedy show for, god sake! And a bit left of center too….

    If you want to know where an administration stands look at the appointments.

    If you find you don’t like the people they are surrounding themselves with, then chances are you are not going to like the policies.

    It says a lot more than all of the partisan rhetoric!

    it could be worse....we could be discussing "news" from Fox News....then we would really be in the realm of science fiction.

    The daily show simply showed footage of Fox News and Rush acting like fools.

    Is it partisan rhetoric to simply quoting people you don´t agree with saying dumb things?

    one can´t say something stupid and then when it is pointed out say that pointing it out is partisan rhetoric.

    that´s like showing a video of a cat being run over by a truck and then claim the cat committed suicide....let´s get back to reality shall we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
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    To paraphrase a popular saying, "There is no 'you' in 'bipartisan'." Obama isn't going to score points by fingerpointing at the folks he's trying to woo. There was similar nonsense going on during debate over the first stimulus package back in September/October. These boys need to learn how to play nicely together if they really want to get things accomplished. This is where hockey-mom Palin could step in to straighten the boys out.
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    Modern day press is about selling advert space, journalistic integrity is only used to aid that endeavour where it is viable. Where it is more profitable for a lack of integrity it is done. Shock jocks sell more then the rest, so they are vetted by the board.

    Tabloids sell a lot more when they have opposition to pick a fight with. And having an opposing tabloid is like giving both of them a money press.

    They can rip into each other and the readers can have fun as they read their modern day equivalent of the circus. The more hyperbolic and agreeable with their already established world view the better. Its all pie in the face slapstick commentary. Who needs accountability, substance, context, critique and insight into an issue when you can reconfirm that you are right and have fun doing it.
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    Lemur, I can't believe you gave Xiahou the bird.
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