Does this mean Rush Limbaugh hates America???

[Xiahou]

By your logic I should have been fervently wishing for OIF2 to fail. That's kinda messed up.

Actually, by my logic, you would've been hoping for the AUMF vote to go down in defeat and for the president's foreign policy to be repudiated. But hey, have fun putting words in my mouth.

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[Lemur]

Actually, by my logic, you would've been hoping for the AUMF vote to go down in defeat and for the president's foreign policy to be repudiated. But hey, have fun putting words in my mouth.

I didn't see any such distinctions in the way you phrased it originally, an I don't see any such distinctions in the words coming from Limbaugh, Hannity or Malkin. I certainly accept your clarification, but that info wasn't there originally.

Do you think Malkin, Hannity and Limbaugh have equally fine and nuanced positions, or are they up to their usual demagoguery? I suspect the latter.

It was unpatriotic to oppose Bush, but it's deeply patriotic to oppose Obama. Sounds about right for their level of discourse.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Limbaugh wants Reaganesque conservatism back at the forefront. Currently, the only standard bearer for that is Sarah Palin. I think its understandable that he's lashing out in frustration. He actually is consistent in that he took the same attitude with Clinton...as in the honeymoon, any admin advancing liberal/socialist/big government ideas must be opposed at every turn. He was also far more critical of Bush's big gov/socialist compromises than were the others named.

Hannity has always been a GOP pit-bull. He pays lip service to overarching conservative doctrine but always "happens" to come down on the side of simplistic support for the attack machine wing of the GOP. His credibility with me is NOT affected by this latest round of commentary -- negative numbers are only an imaginary concept after all. I'm down to about 10 minutes max of him per radio program before I flip to NPR or local sports.

Can't speak to Malkin; don't read/listen to much of Malkin's stuff.

[Vladimir]

The Divine Leader has spoken!

[Fisherking]

Wait just am minute here!

You are discussing News from ?The Daily Show???

It isn’t like they are not coming from a particular point of view now is it.

It is a comedy show for, god sake! And a bit left of center too….

If you want to know where an administration stands look at the appointments.

If you find you don’t like the people they are surrounding themselves with, then chances are you are not going to like the policies.

It says a lot more than all of the partisan rhetoric!

[Ronin]

Wait just am minute here!

You are discussing News from ?The Daily Show???

It isn’t like they are not coming from a particular point of view now is it.

It is a comedy show for, god sake! And a bit left of center too….

If you want to know where an administration stands look at the appointments.

If you find you don’t like the people they are surrounding themselves with, then chances are you are not going to like the policies.

It says a lot more than all of the partisan rhetoric!

it could be worse....we could be discussing "news" from Fox News....then we would really be in the realm of science fiction.

The daily show simply showed footage of Fox News and Rush acting like fools.

Is it partisan rhetoric to simply quoting people you don´t agree with saying dumb things?

one can´t say something stupid and then when it is pointed out say that pointing it out is partisan rhetoric.

that´s like showing a video of a cat being run over by a truck and then claim the cat committed suicide....let´s get back to reality shall we?

[Fisherking]

it could be worse....we could be discussing "news" from Fox News....then we would really be in the realm of science fiction.

The daily show simply showed footage of Fox News and Rush acting like fools.

Is it partisan rhetoric to simply quoting people you don´t agree with saying dumb things?

one can´t say something stupid and then when it is pointed out say that pointing it out is partisan rhetoric.

that´s like showing a video of a cat being run over by a truck and then claim the cat committed suicide....let´s get back to reality shall we?

I have not seen Fox News for quite a few years.

If the network is still set up the way it was though, then you are making a silly distinction.

All of those “Opinion Shows” are not pretending to be News and come at their subjects in an unabashed political viewpoint.

In their actual News Broadcasts, and yes those were few, their news was much more balanced than what you could get elsewhere.

I would much prefer to have the simple facts and make my own decisions as to what it really means than be feed tripe colored for consumption for those with a strict political agenda and have it called News.

I was making no political arguments in my post. I only pointed out what it was.

I don’t think any better of the Democans than I do of the Republicrats.

It’s kind of like keeping mosquitoes for pets…you should know that at some point you are going to be bitten…

[Gregoshi]

The Divine Leader has spoken!

To paraphrase a popular saying, "There is no 'you' in 'bipartisan'." Obama isn't going to score points by fingerpointing at the folks he's trying to woo. There was similar nonsense going on during debate over the first stimulus package back in September/October. These boys need to learn how to play nicely together if they really want to get things accomplished. This is where hockey-mom Palin could step in to straighten the boys out.

[Papewaio]

Modern day press is about selling advert space, journalistic integrity is only used to aid that endeavour where it is viable. Where it is more profitable for a lack of integrity it is done. Shock jocks sell more then the rest, so they are vetted by the board.

Tabloids sell a lot more when they have opposition to pick a fight with. And having an opposing tabloid is like giving both of them a money press.

They can rip into each other and the readers can have fun as they read their modern day equivalent of the circus. The more hyperbolic and agreeable with their already established world view the better. Its all pie in the face slapstick commentary. Who needs accountability, substance, context, critique and insight into an issue when you can reconfirm that you are right and have fun doing it.