Hellenistic rulers: conceivable epithets

[Βελισάριος]

My friend, you are a treat! This is quite productive.

One more thing. If Aaptos is in feminine Aapte, then Hypoleptos would be Hypolepte, and Aphobos- Aphobe, yes? But what about Periphronetes and Thalassokrates?

Oh, and slightly off-topic, playing around with a few words I made up an "epithet" for a Getai ruler (by the way, how would you say "of the Getai" in Greek?). By using a word that is supposedly of Getic origin, I called him Heros per Belauros (which would mean Heros, son of the Dragon).

[Maion Maroneios]

My friend, you are a treat! This is quite productive.

Thanks! It would be good if someone could make a list of it as well

One more thing. If Aaptos is in feminine Aapte, then Hypoleptos would be Hypolepte, and Aphobos- Aphobe, yes? But what about Periphronetes and Thalassokrates?

Correct. The feminine form of the two epithets you mentioned would be Periphronesa and Thalassokrateisa respectively.

Oh, and slightly off-topic, playing around with a few words I made up an "epithet" for a Getai ruler (by the way, how would you say "of the Getai" in Greek?). By using a word that is supposedly of Getic origin, I called him Heros per Belauros (which would mean Heros, son of the Dragon).

"Of the Getai" would be Getikos in Greek. And cool name you 'invented'

Maion

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Wow, this thread is worth its Bytes in Gold I'd say... for little Hellenistic fanboys like us

Could you do some more, please?
the Uniter
the Weak
the Crippled
the Lame
Ironfist (in the sense of "he who vanquishes his foes and never bows to anybody and forces his law on everybody, you know...)

[Yyrkoon]

Bad A$$ Motha F***as!

[Maion Maroneios]

Wow, this thread is worth its Bytes in Gold I'd say... for little Hellenistic fanboys like us

Could you do some more, please?
the Uniter - Henopoios (ΕΝΟΠΟΙΟΣ)
the Weak - Adynamos (ΑΔΥΝΑΜΟΣ)
the Crippled - Apoplektos (ΑΠΟΠΛΗΚΤΟΣ)
the Lame - Anaperos (ΑΝΑΠΗΡΟΣ)
Ironfist - Well, this one is tricky. Keravnos had given an answer for that, saying it would be something like 'Ho echon sideran pygmen' (Ο ΕΧΩΝ ΣΙΔΗΡΑΝ ΠΥΓΜΗΝ) or 'he who has an iron fist' in Greek. Sideropygmaios (ΣΙΔΗΡΟΠΥΓΜΑΙΟΣ), which sounds a lot like it, isn't the same, since 'pygmaios' means 'pigmy'.

Here. Note that last part.

Maion

[Tellos Athenaios]

I'm not sure, because I did not check with a dictionary, but it sounds like you have quite a few adjectives consisting of 2 words. An example would be "Aaptos" (which is A-aptos). Note that these have only 2 diclensions: m/f and n. That is: the masculine form and the feminine form are exactly the same!

[Maion Maroneios]

I'm not sure, because I did not check with a dictionary, but it sounds like you have quite a few adjectives consisting of 2 words.

Aha, that's correct... So?

An example would be "Aaptos" (which is A-aptos). Note that these have only 2 diclensions: m/f and n. That is: the masculine form and the feminine form are exactly the same!

I know it's A-aptos. It's from apto (which means touch) and with the a before the word, it means 'untouchable'. In other words, invincible. As for the sane form, I'm not sure about that. I'll have to check it

Maion

[Olaf Blackeyes]

This thread RULES!!!!!!

[Maion Maroneios]

Just checked and apparently you're wrong, Tellos. Aaptos has both a feminine (Aapte), as well as a neutral (Aapton) form. What you say about 2-word adjectives is not true either, since Thalassokrates (2 words, Thalassa or Sea and Krato, or Rule) is an adjective that is clearly masculine and has a feminine form as well.

Maion

[Tellos Athenaios]

Just checked and apparently you're wrong, Tellos. Aaptos has both a feminine (Aapte), as well as a neutral (Aapton) form. What you say about 2-word adjectives is not true either, since Thalassokrates (2 words, Thalassa or Sea and Krato, or Rule) is an adjective that is clearly masculine and has a feminine form as well.

Maion

Uhh: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin...Aentry%3D%2319

In the case of "aaptos" Perseus' copy of LSJ would disagree with you. Note that this is the only entry to be found for the query "aapt", so that means any exceptional case is pretty much that: exceptional beyond inclusion in an academy-grade dictionary. (Perseus has both Authenrieth (IIRC a Homer specialist work) and Slater too.) Or have you been using a modern Greek dictionary? In which, consider that grammar, especially this kind of grammar isn't a 2300 year old hand-me-down thing.

Yes, there are exceptions to the rule I mentioned in my previous post (apeiros/hpeiros would be one) but that is because those words are exceptional to begin with; i.e. they represent an entity or quality of their own rather than an aggregrate (consider how you might alternatively translate these adjectives using patches like 'not'; 'strongly'; 'well'; 'fully'). EDIT2: And of course there are those (numerous!) exceptions which are just plain irregular; which is why one should check with a good/exhaustive dictionary and which is why I said I wasn't sure....

EDIT: Ooh and please distinguish between adjectives and nouns. Adjective even when used as nouns are subject to the rule; but 'true' (proper?) nouns are not neccesarily.