Dark Vacuum [Concluded]

[CountArach]

Relocate: Labs

Let's keep khaan on his own.

[ULC]

I find it disturbing that not one of you has thrown up yet. Was Andres that delicious?

[LittleGrizzly]

I skipped the wine... as for the food anything fried is yummy!

[Chaotix]

I think if khaan was really going to lie about being an investigator, he would do it later in he game where town has less rounds to lynch him. Doing it now would make no sense and only get him lynched. Khaan is smarter than that. Plus, his name is legitimate. Mine is very similar and due to that I can't remember it off the top of my head.

Vote: Ares
and
Location: Lab/Medical Wing

I do suggest we leave khaan completely alone for one night, but there's no sense in doing it this night. Think about it: Ares is suspected of being mafia. If we lynch him and then isolate khaan, and it turns out there is only one kill during the night, do we have any way of knowing which one of them was the mafia? Wait until N4 (or whatever the next night is) to do this.

[White_eyes:D]

I'm sorry ARES.... should have chosen a better target....oh while....at least I know who the "Good Doctor" is....

[Beefy187]

I find it disturbing that not one of you has thrown up yet. Was Andres that delicious?

Being a cow, I'm vegetarian.. I skipped Andres and moved on to the grassy area in the lab.

[White_eyes:D]

Silence! You pathetic excuse for a human! You stand idly bye while others nearly kill someone - over what! Their little fears! Cowards they are, frightened children, all to willing to kill another to protect themselves.

I am surprised no body noticed this...... I guess you should know why I killed the captain....and why the "Good doctor" must die as well...

Edit:and he is alone too....how nice...

[naut]

Well, I can't identify anyone better to lynch. serei seems to be telling the truth or acting as a mouth-piece for the real detective.

Vote: Ares.

Tally coming, for everyone's sanity.

[naut]

Tally:
777Ares777: 9 (seireikhaan, glyphz, TheFlax, LittleGrizzly, taka, CountArach, 187Beefyz, Chaotix27, Rythmic/Psychonaut)

seireikhaan: 1 (777Ares777)
Warman8: 1 (Sigurd)
Rythmic/Psychonaut: 1 (Jolt)
Reenk Roink: 1 (boudica)
TheFlax: 1 (Warman)
TevashSzat: 1 (Quintus.JC)

Flight Deck:
seireikhaan

Mess Hall/Quarters:
TheFlax
boudica
Reenk Roink
Rythmic
TevashSzat
||GoTW||Warman8||Sldr||-III-||
777Ares777
glyphz
Sigurd
Jolt
Ichigo

Engine Room:
CountArach
LittleGrizzly
taka

Labs/Medbay:
187Beefyz
Quintus.JC
Chaotix27

[CountArach]

I do suggest we leave khaan completely alone for one night, but there's no sense in doing it this night. Think about it: Ares is suspected of being mafia. If we lynch him and then isolate khaan, and it turns out there is only one kill during the night, do we have any way of knowing which one of them was the mafia? Wait until N4 (or whatever the next night is) to do this.

But that won't help anything if khaan is killed because he is in the same room as some mafia member. Further, if he does die in the next night phase that would answer the question of whether or not kills are location-limited.

[LittleGrizzly]

Further, if he does die in the next night phase that would answer the question of whether or not kills are location-limited.

Thats what i was thinking, either we save 'khaan or the mafia prove they can kill outside of thier room, its preferable to save 'khaan but i figure we still get something if the latter happens...

[Sigurd]

Wait a minute there guys.

A lot of claims being thrown around.
Whether or not the Mafia have to be in the same location as their victims has yet to be determined.
But I would suggest that this is so.
I believe we have several different players with different abilities. My bet is that the creature and the rouge person in the uniform (We don't know which badge belongs to which faction do we?) have to be in the same location as their victim. The woman apparition (recruiting ability?) could be a psychic ability and therefore not location dependant. seireikhaan claims he can only be in two locations for his ability to work. This fits in with YLC's OP as some roles are location dependant.

When it comes to 7Ares7, are we sure we want to lynch him? Whatever happened to White_eyes is not something we would want happening again. Is White_eyes the winged monster or the "recruiter"?

Another theory could be that Ares was the uniformed killer and hence the upside horse shoe with a trident is the badge the ECD uses. This could mean White_eyes is the woman apparition and needed to die to become powerful enough to use players for killing purposes. Hence Ares needs to die to remove that threat. No doubt WE:D will recruit again, but can only kill after a successful conversion.

This is my theory.. let's see if it has merit.
unvote Warman8, vote: 777Ares777

I don't think seireikhaan should be alone. He could need protection agianst physical attacks. I am a ECD marine, combat hardened in countless battles. No winged monster scares me.

Location: Flight deck

[LittleGrizzly]

I am a ECD marine

I am a captured ECD marine also... but apart from impressive physical states (i am bloody huge!) i have no mention of protection abilities... do you have protection abilities mentioned Sigurd or is that an assumption ?

[boudica]

Well the best i can do is say my name then

~ Marcus Adams
~ Captured ECD marine


I'll just join white eyes in the marine death pile

Interesting developments. There are several reasons, some already listed, that I believe Khaan is telling the truth.

But let me for a moment suppose he is mafia.

For Khaan to be mafia he would have to know that he would be under close scrutiny by everyone during the day of his 'reveal' and by any genuine detective the following night. Hoping that he would perhaps be quarantined, as has been suggested, might be a calculated risk if he was able to kill anywhere on the ship no matter his own location, but as he would not be able to know whether or not the detective's ability was location specific, Khann would be taking a huge risk in doing so. However there is still the fact that any genuine detective would have to prove themselves to the rest of us by revealing as well. And at that point it would be Khaan's word against theirs.

Has anybody witnessed this type of scenario in a mafia game before?

Anyway - despite the fact that 777Ares777's denial of Khaans' accusation actually has for the most part a genuine feel about it to me, his offered reveal above is the main thing that makes me think he is guilty.
The character names in the write-ups so far have either included quite specific name types. Most Crew of the JCNC seem to have quite Russian sounding names, and the two named marines (assuming ‘John’ shlinn was indeed a marine, and ‘crazy’ Iris White) have a more random-sounding name which also includes their forum name.
I am in no way 100% sure that 777Ares777 is mafia, but his proposed name above ‘Marcus Adams’ does not fit with the established pattern so far and makes me inclined to believe Khaans’ accusation.

Location remains: Messy Crew Quarters
Unvote: Reenk Roink Vote: 777Ares777

Tally:
777Ares777: 11 (seireikhaan, glyphz, TheFlax, LittleGrizzly, taka, CountArach, 187Beefyz, Chaotix27, Rythmic/Psychonaut, Sigurd, boudica, )

seireikhaan: 1 (777Ares777)
Rythmic/Psychonaut: 1 (Jolt)
TheFlax: 1 (Warman)
TevashSzat: 1 (Quintus.JC)

Flight Deck:
seireikhaan

Mess Hall/Quarters:
TheFlax
boudica
Reenk Roink
Rythmic
TevashSzat
||GoTW||Warman8||Sldr||-III-||
777Ares777
glyphz
Sigurd
Jolt
Ichigo

Engine Room:
LittleGrizzly
taka

Labs/Medbay:
187Beefyz
Quintus.JC
Chaotix27
CountArach

[Sigurd]

@LG:

What do you think about boudica's theory about ECD names?
And I might have a line about protection in my ECD pm or not, we shall see.

[CountArach]

Sigurd moved to the Flight Deck.

As for the naming, I don't have one that seems like my name so I think that is an incorrect lead to follow. Note that I am also an ECD Marine.

[boudica]

@LG:

What do you think about boudica's theory about ECD names?
And I might have a line about protection in my ECD pm or not, we shall see.

I thought it would be easily verifiable = therefore useful. I don't have any objection to you and Khaan sharing a room btw, but only if you are both consenting adults and don't have any wings, tails or glowing stone-like skin

Flight Deck:
seireikhaan
Sigurd

Mess Hall/Quarters:
TheFlax
boudica
Reenk Roink
Rythmic
TevashSzat
||GoTW||Warman8||Sldr||-III-||
777Ares777
glyphz
Jolt
Ichigo

Engine Room:
LittleGrizzly
taka

Labs/Medbay:
187Beefyz
Quintus.JC
Chaotix27
CountArach

[LittleGrizzly]

Corporal Espen "Little" Grizzly

Thats my name... good point made about the names, this is the final nail in the coffin of Ares, i had a little doubt before but the name thing ends it imo.

What do you think about boudica's theory about ECD names?

Seems right on the money to me, no nickname in his marine name, less sure about this russian sounding name thing, Espen doesn't jump out as russian to me (something like ivan would be more clear) but i wouldn't know either way, is Espen russian related name ?

Maybe we could have marines come out and tell us thier names so we can get further clarification on this issue...

[boudica]

I was actually refering to the main JCNC Ravager crew names in the write ups, as having 'Russian sounding' names - rather than the ECD marine names. It was just the lack of any '777's' in Ares' post which made my decision for me.

[ULC]

For all to know - I am extending the time for day till sometime after 12:00 EST for RL reasons. I suggest you continue your discussions, and remember whom your host is

[Jolt]

Unvote: Rythmic
Vote: Ares
Location: Engine Room

ECD Marine might equal take over later in the game. I don't like to think of that possibility. Might as well get rid of them all sooner rather than later.

[Jolt]

Wierdly enough, my character doesn't have a name. It's named Private Jolt. >_>

[White_eyes:D]

ECD Marine might equal take over later in the game.

*wonders why the other ECD Marines have not caught on*
*also wonders why shlin claimed to be a ECD Marine...yet was killed be a Jovian Marine...not me...*

Edit: and thank Sigurd for helping me with Khaan

[Quintus.JC]

Vote: Aries

I'd like to join in on the bandwaggon

[Thermal]

please then consider, that while you may think your an ECD marine, if i truely am evil, you may be able to be turned, if seireikhaan tells the truth then no player truely knows if there town or mafia.

[Quintus.JC]

Don't worry Aries, if you're post-mortomly proved innocent Khann will be killed by us. And if you're truely scum then I'm sure your scum buddy will get you revenge. Either way Khaan hasn't got much longer to live unless town take measures for his protection.

[Thermal]

Don't worry Aries, if you're post-mortomly proved innocent Khann will be killed by us. And if you're truely scum then I'm sure your scum buddy will get you revenge. Either way Khaan hasn't got much longer to live unless town take measures for his protection.

Yes but the write up may not tell you this, if i came up as scum then that would mean those who think they are townies could be mafia also, YLC hasn't have informed me if its true. Damned host

[Quintus.JC]

Yes but the write up may not tell you this, if i came up as scum then that would mean those who think they are townies could be mafia also, YLC hasn't have informed me if its true. Damned host

I think/hope there will be some way we can find out. It is far too early for a mafia to reveal to be detective, and therefore I'd assume Khaan is not lying.

Bottom line is Khaan will lose all creditability if your lynch goes wrong.

[Thermal]

I think/hope there will be some way we can find out. It is far too early for a mafia to reveal to be detective, and therefore I'd assume Khaan is not lying.

Bottom line is Khaan will lose all creditability if your lynch goes wrong.

But while players say a mafia wouldnt do this, neither would a townie or he'd be murdered, its a stupid move either way, unless he has defensive ablilies, either way seir isnt afraid of publicly expressing things, showing he may be unlynchable or non-killable

[Quintus.JC]

But while players say a mafia wouldnt do this, neither would a townie or he'd be murdered, its a stupid move either way, unless he has defensive ablilies, either way seir isnt afraid of publicly expressing things, showing he may be unlynchable or non-killable

Some townies are willing to make this sacrafice knowing that they have nailed at least one mafia. Also once your guilt has been proved (e.g. less kill in the write up) the protectors can get to work and form a personal bodyguard team for Seiri.