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    Default Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)

    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    Is it just me, or is Reenk Roink being unusually defensive about the pressure being put on him? I've only been in a couple games with him now, but in both of those he retained a relatively care-free and jovial attitude even when he was under the gun. This is the first time I've seen him launch into serious evidentiary counter-arguments to the accusations being placed against him. I would be grateful if some of those who know his play style better could comment on whether this is out of the ordinary.
    Yeah I am, so? Are you going to note this behavior change and then formulate a case that I am Mafia because of it...

    The accusations by Atpg are so bad and inconsistent (note how he didn't bother to reply to them though he loves to parse every post he can) that it is kinda fun to respond.

    Again, you did say before that Atpg's case was well argued. well analyzed, and consistent, and those claims have been, well, savaged, so that is why I will get defensive against your posts. Not to mention that weird statement about innocence and not misleading

    Anyway...

    Atpg, you posted, but nothing of value. This is the only thing that new that I need to respond to (everything else is up there):

    If you truly believe this, then never analyze anyone again. There is a huge streak of hypocrisy and illogic in that statement.
    First there is nothing "illogic" about that statement at all. Again, please don't make accusations without actually supporting them (a pretty common occurrence in your recent posts).

    Logic really has very little to do with this game. Many poor arguments are constructed on syntactical valid forms and many good arguments are invalid. The reasoning in these games is largely irrelevant anyway, the premises are the key.

    As for hypocrisy, hey, I love to do it, you got a problem with it?

    But yes, there are huge problems with trying to analyze behavior and find Mafia. And even if you try to get away from an epistemic defense of this method (because that would be nearly impossible), it has very little pragmatic merit anyway. I've seen your Skynet (built on people following behavior types that are Mafia cliches: "changing behavior" and "lurking" and "3rd on bandwagon") fail miserably before, and it's failing horribly now.

    Also, in many cases it is not hypocrisy. Sometimes I put on some facade of analysis so I can just vote for someone - annoying, but you have to please the mob to lay low and avoid their wrath.

    Anyway Atpg, I win you lose, you're all but lynched, and I'm still alive!
    Last edited by Reenk Roink; 02-13-2009 at 17:44.

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