In the end does it make a difference? The school wasn't the only civillian target they hit.
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In the end does it make a difference? The school wasn't the only civillian target they hit.
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It makes a difference in trusting the UN, who the international community tend to rely on for at least 'fair' feedback - although it does seem several people were injured inside the school they clearly either lied, or at least made no effort to correct news storiesOriginally Posted by Lord Winter
- as for the second link, im sure the IDF can be relied on for providing the Palestinian death toll...
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Again, who are the UN personal in Gaza, pretty faceless for such a worrying region, considering.
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and im sure that hamas can be relied upon for giving us a reliable death toll.
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Hmm I think they must of lied as the UN are in conspiracy with hamas to take down Israel and destroy the country.
I feel so sorry for Israel everyone in the world is against them, they just can't see that Israel is a bastion of hope in a region surrounded by evil Muslims who want to destroy us all. I think this latest report is more damming evidence that even the UN to is anti-semetic.
In all seriousness now I think it was probably an honest mistake, unless you buy into the whole "world conspiracy against Israel" as I sarcastically portrayed above.
Also what purpose does this thread serve other than prising up the old flames of the countless threads revolving around Israel and Gaza which if memory serves me correct every single one has been locked. Also it seems to be the pro Israelis here who continuously want to bring this issue up.
Just be hopeful that your country has a new government and that means that you might start taking a new direction which doesn't involve you invading your neighbours every two years.
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There is no UN in gaza, only UN spokepersons, who also happen to be hamas members/associates, lotsa money to be made for the exceptionally cynical.
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I thought the UN school in questions was run by the UN and the UN also had various refugee camps in the region?
Wouldn't that constitute the UN being in Gaza?
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the reason why i brought it up is because i was not sure that everyone knew and i want everyone to know the truth.
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Just remember it's only the truth from one side. I'm certain both sides lied in the conflict, both lied about deaths ect.
At the end of the day I don't think either side will ever look like a winner or the good guy in all of this. As I said before lets just hope Israel's new government will take them forward, not 50 years back in the past.
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The UN confirmed it. They're not exactly pro-Israeli. It seems to be pretty much established fact now that they've confirmed that Israel didn't bomb the school, no?
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Don't worry it'll get closed because it puts the UN in a bad light and shows that Hamas is full of crap again. These threads don't stay open unless its attacking the West or Israel.
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http://www.theaugeanstables.com/2009...ualty-figures/
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At the risk of derailing this thread, I cannot let this pass.
I am getting sick and tired of the accusations of bias thrown so casually about. None of the moderators on this site get paid, we are all volunteers. We spend our time wading through the posts in the Backroom trying to ensure that it is a pleasant, constructive and peaceful place for friends to debate the issues of the day. We each have our own views but we try constantly not to allow those to influence our decisions - and consult with each other on many occasions to ensure we are not stepping over that line.
You want to try that some time. You want to try and put up with some of the deviance and plain hatred that slips out into the forum. You want to try and stifle your own passions and emotions to ensure that others can enjoy this forum. You want to read some of the PMs that patrons send to "defend" themselves.
One day you might find the Backroom closed for good because there is no one left that wants to spend their leisure time putting up with being insulted and patronised. Frankly, there are days, and you just made this one of them, where I wouldn't care a jot if that happened.
And for your information, not that fact will make a difference, the last two Gaza threads were closed because some people couldn't stop comparing Israel with Nazis.
So yes, Dave, you hit a nerve. Feels satisfied if you wish. Maybe you'll twig that there are human beings back here.
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unjust accusations, learn to love them
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BG I like you
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BG, you're right. When something is working it is easy to forget about it and not recognise the work that goes in. You mods do a fantastic job and I'm sure I'm not the only one that forgets you all are not neccesarily calm and even handed - but you actively have to try to present this image.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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Your way of the point. There is just as many Pro Israelis here who supported the war as people who were against their recent incursion into Gaza.
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Well I notice a slight bias, being pro-Israel is politically incorrect, sobbing for dead terrorists on the other hand is politically correct. Mods are only human, try it what hits you harder.
- the Israeli's are scum
- the Palestinians are scum
I don't know what warning the other side gets from time to time I expect they get them, but sometimes I am a bit mwah was that really necesary. This isn't in any way meant as critisism mind you it's a hard subject.
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