UN lied about IDF shells hitting school

[Fragony]

Oh boy, that's a bit harsh, of course he hates my guts but can't dislike the guy

[Hooahguy]

i dont think he was banned. i checked his profile and it says hes still a member.
but if that is true, i mourn his leaving, for even though he got annoying at times, he brings up good points and makes me think.


EDIT: tibilicus, there have been 5 threads on israel/gaza, not including this one. out of those, only 1 was started by a pro-israel member.
just FYI.

[Furunculus]

Oh boy, that's a bit harsh, of course he hates my guts but can't dislike the guy

Tribseman..................?

[Fragony]

Tribseman..................?

Well yes, how can someone really dislike Tribesman. If this banning thing is true then I am really sad to see him go.

[tibilicus]

EDIT: tibilicus, there have been 5 threads on israel/gaza, not including this one. out of those, only 1 was started by a pro-israel member.
just FYI.

I don't think any of the threads were started by anti-Israelis though were they?

Just because people disagreed with the methods used by Israel in the conflict which resulted in an unnecessary amount of civilian casualties doesn't make them anti-Israeli or pro-hamas.

[Fragony]

I don't think any of the threads were started by anti-Israelis though were they?

Just because people disagreed with the methods used by Israel in the conflict which resulted in an unnecessary amount of civilian casualties doesn't make them anti-Israeli or pro-hamas.

The lies about civilian casualties make people anti-Israeli or pro-hamas. Civilian casualties, 1/3, in the most densely populated region of the world, impressive, if anyone can't see a patern there, and I am talking about Israel not targetting civilians, they have already made up their mind and I wonder why. Is it because it's a jewish state or is it because it's a western one, or is it just convenient because we have imported just about everything that is as useless to us as tits on a bycicle, yet flamable. Let's not forget Hamas rounding up children, pregnant women and just about everyone who can't pay Hamas the 8000 euro (or was it dollars) that is required to use their tunnels to flee to Egypt and are so very useful when they are covering at leat 5 meters with their entrails. And booohooohoo we do.

[Ser Clegane]

Just for clarification - Tribesman has not been banned.

The concern is noted and appreciated though, as it shows that despite the clashes that we have here, there is still a good sense of community

[Hooahguy]

Just for clarification - Tribesman has not been banned.

The concern is noted and appreciated though, as it shows that despite the clashes that we have here, there is still a good sense of community

he wasnt banned? GOOD!

[LittleGrizzly]

Oops.. my bad. Asumption is the mother of something... my main point is i think the mods are pretty fair warnings seem to be given out pretty consistently rather than just to paticular political views...

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I don't think any of the threads were started by anti-Israelis though were they?

I think the last one was, at very least...

[Hooahguy]

I think the last one was, at very least...

and so was the one before that, and so was the very first one....

[tibilicus]

and so was the one before that, and so was the very first one....

So you've forgotten the "Palestine should be disbanded permanently" thread?

At best the so called "anti-Israeli" threads called for an end to the fighting not an end to a whole nation. So lets see the so called anti-Israeli people call for a ceasefire whilst extreme pro-Israelis call for the Palestinian state to not even exist? Hmmmm, wonder which side is being the most extreme..

You know we could play this ball game all day and just hit it back and forth or you could all accept that there isn't tons of pro-hamas loving militants on these forums and that the Israel supporters are probably out weighing them if not in numbers at least in extremity.


After all which supposed side is still continuing this long boring topic wheeeeeyyy after hostilities ceased? I know for one im past caring. The two sides could continue fighting each other for years and I probably wouldn't care any more, the outcomes probably going to be the same.

Maybe we should all shut up about Israel for a bit, or at least until they invade one of their neighbours in 2 years time because lets all be honest, it's sure as hell will happen.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

At best the so called "anti-Israeli" threads called for an end to the fighting not an end to a whole nation.

Forgotten about Bopa, have you? IIRC, his opinion was what the "Palestine should be disbanded" thread was started partially as a response to, but I'm sure rvg will correct me.

[tibilicus]

Forgotten about Bopa, have you? IIRC, his opinion was what the "Palestine should be disbanded" thread was started partially as a response to, but I'm sure rvg will correct me.

I can't recall what Bopa said actually, care to enlighten me?

Also on a side note nice speed in posting a response, you were all over it in a matter of seconds.

[Husar]

I'm so glad Tribes wasn't banned, I'm already getting withdrawal symptoms and a ban might have killed me.

So far I haven't felt like I've been treated unfairly here but then I'm a pinko liberal euroweenie who likes banning freedom of speech.

[Hooahguy]

ignore- it is not right to be attacking other members

[LittleGrizzly]

Sounds like someone is severly misreading Bopa, if it is the comment i am thinking off that you reacted badly too...

[Hooahguy]

misquated, HA! read his post and the ones a bit after.
or ask don.

[tibilicus]

also, if i may mention, rvg started ONE thread. tribesey started 2, idaho started 1, and i started 1.

So that roughly works out 3-2, a fairly even nubmer of threads for both sides to state their views, and as such my earlier point has now been proven that this board isn't in fact full of pro- Palestine/ anti-Israelis but a good mix of both. So therefore as previously mentioned any argument to claim one side is out weighing another is false.


Also regarding Bopas post which thread was it in? I would like to see it and read over it myself before casting judgement.

[LittleGrizzly]

If its the one i remember Don getting upset about then there was nothing really untoward in his statement at all, it was simply that people read it (through whatever the opposite of rose tinited glasses are) and got angry at thier assumption of what he meant rather than his actual meaning, he tried to explain this afterwards and even made a reference in his signature to it but some people were much happier charging around full of anger than discovering the truth...

[Hooahguy]

ignore- it is not right to be attacking other members

[Hooahguy]

ignore- it is not right to be attacking other members

[LittleGrizzly]

I read through his general statements and found nothing more reprehensible than the usual supporting off one side or the other, your going to have to point to a paticular post at the very least (then if you could at least choose which paragraphs it would help alot)

the fact was that bopa clearly had no problem with suicide bombers killing innocents.

are you referring to this line ?

To me it is the right of any occupied people to fight back, I see no difference in the way Israel bombs hostpitals and schools and the way Palestinians blow up school buses, except in the death toll and the idea behind them.

Because i see nothing wrong with this line, the IDF are just as wrong in thier bloody murder as the terrorists..

[Hooahguy]

ignore- it is not right to be attacking other members

[Strike For The South]

Hooah I would ask you don't invoke other members names when they are not here to defend themselves. I understand you disagree but Bopa isn't the issue here.

Even if he is a sissy rugby player.

[Hooahguy]

sorry.

anyhow, this thread isnt going anywhere, so if a mod could please close it down ASAP.

[LittleGrizzly]

Its pretty much a fact rather than some hateful opinion if you think about it.

Israel (rightly or wrongly lets not get into that part) conducts military operations in palestinian terroritory which kills palestinians (terrorists and civilians) ontop of that regular palestinians regularly have to go through checkpoints which disrupt thier daily lives and i have heard a few reports off woman giving birth and dying children having issues at checkpoints, they also dominate most of the natural resources in the area.

They are reasons for palestinians to kill israelis, revenge and having your daily life made a misery are pretty damn good reasons in some people's books but at the very least they are reasons...

His statement does not actually say that it is good to kill innocent israeli civilians or even cheer such an event simply that the palestinians have reasons to kill the israelis... which is true. I mean do you really think every person who attacks israel does so out of brainwashed hatred without even a little personal tragedy to fuel it ?

[Hooahguy]

i thought we said we werent discussing this here? if you really want send me a PM and i will explain to you EXACTLY what i didnt like.

[LittleGrizzly]

Well you and STFS decided you weren't going to discuss it here whilst some of us were in the middle of constructing our post (bloody rude i tell you!)

If the issue it to be laid to rest i am happy to go along with that i just felt the need to defend a statement i thought was severly misinterpratated by several people....

[tibilicus]

These threads always go no where, if only you had all Listened to me 5 posts in.