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    so?
    we did it with iraq too.
    i see nothing wrong with this. israel is scared, since one nuke can literally wipe out about 1/4 of the country.
    and with that looney as prez of iran, i wouldnt blame israel for being scared.
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    As such, the reported goal of Israel's covert campaign is to delay or interrupt the Iranian research program, without engaging in a direct confrontation that could lead to a wider war.
    that is fine

    Israel is assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists
    that is not

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    so?
    we did it with iraq too.
    i see nothing wrong with this. israel is scared, since one nuke can literally wipe out about 1/4 of the country.
    and with that looney as prez of iran, i wouldnt blame israel for being scared.
    You are seriously defending out-and-out murder of members of the scientific community?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    You are seriously defending out-and-out murder of members of the scientific community?
    Yes? If Israel has intelligence to indicate that Iran is expanding nuclear capability to the potential detriment of Israel, then it makes sense to stall that program, does it not? Or does the left have no sense of pragmatism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    Yes? If Israel has intelligence to indicate that Iran is expanding nuclear capability to the potential detriment of Israel, then it makes sense to stall that program, does it not? Or does the left have no sense of pragmatism?
    No, the left has a respect for science and those who practise it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    No, the left has a respect for science and those who practise it.
    I thought the far-"libertarian"-left had little respect for the arms industry.

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    What Israel is doing is terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    What Israel is doing is terrorism.
    How is it terrorism? They're not going in with the objective to cause terror to anyone - they're going in with the objective to target individuals. Trust me, if they were terrorizing people, people would, you know, be terrorized. This is accepting that article as fact, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    What Israel is doing is terrorism.
    Probably not, Strike, as there is no "terror" component. Now, if assassinations were done in some "splashy" manner, or relatives were being killed to force compliance/leaving the program, then you would clearly have a terrorism scenario. So far, Israel (assuming this article is accurate) is not targeting the innocent, only those actively involved in a program that threaten's Israel's existence. Now, you can attack the morality of such actions on a number of levels without using the T word -- and many here will.

    Note: I am well aware that absent, or even in the event of, a declared war between Iran and Israel, the targeting of these scientists would be viewed by many as criminal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    so?
    we did it with iraq too.
    i see nothing wrong with this. israel is scared, since one nuke can literally wipe out about 1/4 of the country.
    and with that looney as prez of iran, i wouldnt blame israel for being scared.
    So is it OK for the Iranian regime to start sending assassins specifically targeting Israel's military scientists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    So is it OK for the Iranian regime to start sending assassins specifically targeting Israel's military scientists?
    It's not ok but it's not morally reprehensible either. These countries made there beds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    It's not ok but it's not morally reprehensible either. These countries made there beds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    So is it OK for the Iranian regime to start sending assassins specifically targeting Israel's military scientists?
    Sure. Heck, I bet they've tried. I would presume that Israel would be able to defend the scientists, but that is another matter.

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    Sure why not, anyone and everyone is fair game, as i have been told countless times here, boo hoo war is hell get over it. So 9/11, the holocaust, Gaza '08 and murdering of scientists, all is fair in love and war...

    Just don't expect me to condemn the latest terrorist attack in whatever country suffers it...
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    Let's see.

    The President of Iran, backed by some pragmatical bast---ds known as the Mullahs, swears on a stack of Korans, may the blessing be upon the prophet, that he would wipe Isreal off the map. No matter that he also has publically stated that the holocaust never happened, he also just happens to preside over the very scientists he claims are just working on Nuclear power for peacful means. It may be true, but then pigs do fly in the land of OZ too.

    Can anyone blame Isreal, a country that has been fighting for its existence almost from the day of its founding from a horde of various Muslim countries, for being equally pragmatical bast---ds? Believe me that they will certainly be more so if and when the Iranians have the actual weapons. If that does happen, they will strike with more than a few operatives taking the lives of a scientist or two.
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    But they condemn the actions of terrorists murdering innocent Israeli's in attempt to stop the Israeli state from progressing - I fail to see the difference

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    gut says no not good at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    so?
    we did it with iraq too.
    i see nothing wrong with this. israel is scared, since one nuke can literally wipe out about 1/4 of the country.
    and with that looney as prez of iran, i wouldnt blame israel for being scared.

    You don't really need to be killing of their scientists though.

    For a start Iran would never attack Israel with nukes unless their stupid due to the fact the moment a nuclear weapon heading towards Israel was detected Israel and America would throw so many back Iran would literally be wiped of the map, there would just be a glass crater.


    besides Iran is years away from any form of nuclear power yet, and even then you should just do what you did with both Iraq and Syria if memory serves me correct, bomb their facilities. It would be a lot less costly and save innocent lives. I hardly doubt all these scientists are evil, more likely they're trying to get by in a country where there is little work for people of their profession.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    You don't really need to be killing of their scientists though.

    For a start Iran would never attack Israel with nukes unless their stupid due to the fact the moment a nuclear weapon heading towards Israel was detected Israel and America would throw so many back Iran would literally be wiped of the map, there would just be a glass crater.


    besides Iran is years away from any form of nuclear power yet, and even then you should just do what you did with both Iraq and Syria if memory serves me correct, bomb their facilities. It would be a lot less costly and save innocent lives. I hardly doubt all these scientists are evil, more likely they're trying to get by in a country where there is little work for people of their profession.
    you want to leave thousands of lives to chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    you want to leave thousands of lives to chance?

    o ya....
    You seriously believe Iran will get even remotely close to developing a nuclear weapon? Phuuleeezeeee..
    The fact is they are years away from even having the remote capability of nuclear weapons and even then a nice bombing run over their facilities should sort it.

    Israel's wasting money paying people to knock other people of, they could be in and out of Iran in minutes with Iran facilities in tatters, because lets be honest Irans air force quite frankly sucks compared to the IAF.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    You seriously believe Iran will get even remotely close to developing a nuclear weapon? Phuuleeezeeee..
    The fact is they are years away from even having the remote capability of nuclear weapons and even then a nice bombing run over their facilities should sort it.

    Israel's wasting money paying people to knock other people of, they could be in and out of Iran in minutes with Iran facilities in tatters, because lets be honest Irans air force quite frankly sucks compared to the IAF.
    the most dangerous thing in the world is to underestimate the capability of your enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    the most dangerous thing in the world is to underestimate the capability of your enemies.

    They simply are years behind in nuclear capability though.

    And as for the capability of their army, sure they have numbers but the IAF would still whoop them with their fancy modern day fighters.

    What jet does the Iranian military even have, some cold were derelict from the Russians or the US?


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    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    They simply are years behind in nuclear capability though.

    And as for the capability of their army, sure they have numbers but the IAF would still whoop them with their fancy modern day fighters.

    What jet does the Iranian military even have, some cold were derelict from the Russians or the US?
    its easier to chop the head off the snake while its young then to wait before its grown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    You seriously believe Iran will get even remotely close to developing a nuclear weapon? Phuuleeezeeee..
    The fact is they are years away from even having the remote capability of nuclear weapons and even then a nice bombing run over their facilities should sort it.

    Israel's wasting money paying people to knock other people of, they could be in and out of Iran in minutes with Iran facilities in tatters, because lets be honest Irans air force quite frankly sucks compared to the IAF.
    the north koreans managed it with their peasant kingdom, so why not iran?

    if it were that easy i would be the first to cheer them on.
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