Obama Vs. Jindal

[seireikhaan]

In response to Obama's first speech to congress, the Republican party put forth Bobby Jindal to make a response. Both gave speeches that were about what was expected, given the two's track records. What I find interesting is the fact that Republicans put forth Jindal to make a response to what was a rather momentous speech. Is this an indicator that Jindal is the RNC's preferred man to take a crack at the 2012 election? Also, any comments on the speeches?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Short version: I liked Jindal's response better but Obama is definitely the better orator. Also, enough with the Louisiana references. Also also, just because he's the RNC's preferred man doesn't mean he'll actually seek the job.

Long version: ...eh, I think the short version was good enough.

[Xiahou]

Jindal's delivery was lacking. Most of his speech was kind of hard to listen to- not because of content, but because of how it was read. Both speeches were pre-written and read off, but Jindal made it painfully obvious that he was reading from a prompter. That was disappointing as Ive heard Jindal in Q&A sessions and he always came off as very competent and sincere.

The end of his speech got a little better, but most was bad.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Hope not. It's Sarah's turn.

Please note, the author views the chances of any GOP nominee winning in 2012 as being on a par with the chances that Gaza and the West Bank will choose political unity with the state of Israel. Therefore, the author -- a conservative -- doesn't want to see someone with real talent saddled witha career-ending defeat.

[Yoyoma1910]

I'm torn.



Guess why.

[Major Robert Dump]

Hope not. It's Sarah's turn.

Please note, the author views the chances of any GOP nominee winning in 2012 as being on a par with the chances that Gaza and the West Bank will choose political unity with the state of Israel. Therefore, the author -- a conservative -- doesn't want to see someone with real talent saddled witha career-ending defeat.

Sarah Silverman? Isn't she too offensive to be president?

[Strike For The South]

I don't like Jindal or Obamas positions So Im voting Sith Lord.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Hope not. It's Sarah's turn.

Please note, the author views the chances of any GOP nominee winning in 2012 as being on a par with the chances that Gaza and the West Bank will choose political unity with the state of Israel. Therefore, the author -- a conservative -- doesn't want to see someone with real talent saddled witha career-ending defeat.

If I didn't read the disclaimer I was going to be very disappointed...

/didn't WTFV but can Republicans blame Jindal losing in '16 on racism?

[Hosakawa Tito]

I didn't watch the speech last night, had to work, but I did listen to Jindal being interviewed about the stimulus package on talk radio over the weekend. Seems he actually read and comprehended the implications of that pork-laden monstrosity, and is willing to reject some of that money for his state, and rightfully so. Too bad his rebuttal speech came off so badly because the info he's trying to put out there is important. New York State hs been running on the same economic and legislative philosophy as is presented in the stimulus bill. This is one of the most economically depressed areas in the country, and has been since the early 80's.

[Major Robert Dump]

I can't believe you say you are economically depressed there when in Oklahoma we are having to pay 1.40 for gas and 2.79 for a gallon of milk. I am outraged, especially at all teh chicken poop in the water!!!

[KukriKhan]

Anybody catch the remark by MSNBC's Chris Matthews, as Jindal srtode to the podium (and staff laughter in the background)? You'd think, after all those years, they'd know how/when to turn olff their mic's.

LINK

[naut]

I don't like Jindal or Obamas positions So Im voting Sith Lord.

Cheney's running in 2012?! Wow. That'll be more humourous than when Gore tried.

[Lemur]

Just gonna throw out a little pornography for CountArch, our local poll-smoker.

Eighty percent of speech watchers approve of President Obama’s plans for dealing with the economic crisis. Before the speech, 63 percent approved.

Fifty-one percent of speech watchers think the president's economic plans will help them personally. Thirty-six thought so before the speech.

Seventy-five percent of speech watchers now say they were able to get a good understanding of President Obama’s economic plans, compared to 58 percent before the speech.

Seventy-four percent of speech watchers think President Obama’s plans will make the economy better. Eleven percent think they will make them worse, while 15 percent think they will make no difference.

Eighty percent of speech watchers are optimistic about the next four years with Mr. Obama as president. Seventy-one percent said they were optimistic before the speech.

Seventy-six percent of speech watchers think Barack Obama’s economic plans will help the housing crisis. Twenty-four percent think they will not.

[Vladimir]

534 people is an incredibly small sample group. Is this normal?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

534 people is an incredibly small sample group. Is this normal?

Sadly, they each have a vote in deciding our laws.

Oh, you mean there was a separate sample....

[Vladimir]

Sadly, they each have a vote in deciding our laws.

Oh, you mean there was a separate sample....

Oooh, good catch! So the only people surveyed was congress? Is this some sort of sick joke?

[Spino]

I didn't watch the speech last night, had to work, but I did listen to Jindal being interviewed about the stimulus package on talk radio over the weekend. Seems he actually read and comprehended the implications of that pork-laden monstrosity, and is willing to reject some of that money for his state, and rightfully so. Too bad his rebuttal speech came off so badly because the info he's trying to put out there is important. New York State hs been running on the same economic and legislative philosophy as is presented in the stimulus bill. This is one of the most economically depressed areas in the country, and has been since the early 80's.

Well to be honest Jindal's rebuttal is practically irrelevant right now. Only an exceptional speech delivered flawlessly could have stolen Obama's thunder and even then it would have still made little difference.

Given the fact that the Bush administration is still fresh in people's minds and Obama is still enjoying his post-inaugural honeymoon it's too much to expect an effective opposition from the GOP right now. The underlying purpose of Jindal's speech was to seed people's mind with an alternative voice that may take a bigger role in the future. The GOP needed to throw Jindal into the deep end to see if he could swim and considering he's never dealt with this kind of audience before he did a pretty decent job of it.

Even if Jindal royally screwed up last night it wouldn't have harmed his political stock. Think of him as a minor league prospect brought up to take a few meaningless swings during the season while a full time player is ailing or taking a day off. Low expectations all around but hey, if he hits a home run then great.

Right now Obama can continue to shovel the rhetoric and blame the previous administration from everything from the mortgage crisis to lung cancer but a time will come when the average pleb will become immune to the impact of such references. This recession is just getting started and as things get worse a glaring lack of progress and more empty promises simply won't cut it anymore. Then and only then will a counter-voice like Jindal's be able to steal the limelight.

[Devastatin Dave]

Oooh, good catch! So the only people surveyed was congress? Is this some sort of sick joke?

The poll was made by CBS.

Lemur, you better not be fooling around behind my back again with those damn Kos kids!!!

[Devastatin Dave]

Anybody catch the remark by MSNBC's Chris Matthews, as Jindal srtode to the podium (and staff laughter in the background)? You'd think, after all those years, they'd know how/when to turn olff their mic's.

LINK

Here's Matthews lame excuse...
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/2...f-jindals-set/
Youtube removed your vid Kukri, they love them some Obambi ya know.

Jeebus, no bias media, eh?

[Lemur]

The poll was made by CBS.

Lemur, you better not be fooling around behind my back again with those damn Kos kids!!!

So now CBS = Kos? Or is CBS worse than a one-party partisan blog site? I have trouble keeping up with who's on your list of fifth-column traitors. The full contents of the poll can be found in a handy PDF, including the breakdown of the participants' politics, which mirror the national composition pretty well. CountArch can comment more intelligently on whether or not it's a worthwhile poll.

Youtube removed your vid Kukri, they love them some Obambi ya know.

YouTube is owned by Google, which is owned by the Octosquids. I take it all of them are in the tank for the antichrist?

[Devastatin Dave]

So now CBS = Kos? ?

In the spirit of Dan Rather, Walter Cronkite, and Katie Couric? Bias much?

[Proletariat]

Watched bits and pieces today and thought Jindal was awful. It's a shame Dr Paul didn't give the rebuttal.

[Spino]

Watched bits and pieces today and thought Jindal was awful. It's a shame Dr Paul didn't give the rebuttal.

Jindal simply needs some coaching, look what it did for Gorebot. After that hook Jindal up with some better speech writers and he should be fine.

Ron Paul deliver the rebuttal? I wish but it will never happen. Tragically most Republican politicians view Ron Paul as being somewhere in between an out of touch throwback and a crazed moonbat.

[Yoyoma1910]

Jindal simply needs some coaching, look what it did for Gorebot. After that hook Jindal up with some better speech writers and he should be fine.

Ron Paul deliver the rebuttal? I wish but it will never happen. Tragically most Republican politicians view Ron Paul as being somewhere in between an out of touch throwback and a crazed moonbat.

No they view him as a Libertarian standing as a member of their party, which he is.

[LittleGrizzly]

Ron Paul... now theres a republican i could support!

[drone]

Ron Paul... now theres a republican i could support!

And I did. Everybody paints him as a crazy, but we wouldn't be blowing trillions of dollars on bailouts if he was in charge.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

And I did. Everybody paints him as a crazy, but we wouldn't be blowing trillions of dollars on bailouts if he was in charge.

True enough, but a reversion to the Gold standard would make the current depression look like a sunday picnic. The END result might be a more stable world economy, granted, but the economic horror story of getting there might be a bit high of a price.

[LittleGrizzly]

Everybody paints him as a crazy

Was this a deliberate attempt by worried rivals or was the message just too different for Americans ?

[CountArach]

Just gonna throw out a little pornography for CountArch, our local poll-smoker.

*Injects it straight into the bloodstream*

41% of Americans now more confident

President Barack Obama's address to Congress Tuesday night appears to have bolstered confidence among many Americans. Four in 10 (41%) say they are now more confident in his plans to improve the economy, including 57% of those who watched or listened to the speech live.

In a one-night Gallup Poll conducted Wednesday night, Americans overall were about evenly split between saying Obama's speech made them more confident and saying it had no effect on their opinion. But those who reported watching or listening to the speech live were far more likely to say it made them more confident, out numbering by a 2-to-1 margin those who said it had no effect. Fewer than 2 in 10 Americans in either group said the speech made them less confident.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

nah