The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

[TinCow]

Vote: Andres

I have determined that QJC is probably the Godfather by the way, just seems wrong not to kill Andres after all my campaigning.

Let me get this straight. You believe you know who the Godfather is, but you'd prefer to vote for someone else and lose the game?

[Reenk Roink]

Let me get this straight. You believe you know who the Godfather is, but you'd prefer to vote for someone else and lose the game?

We have two lynches left.

Also, winning is fun, but this is more fun.

Edit: obviously I still believe Andres is probably a Godfather too if QJC is not, and I believe his not voting for me is to set up a scapegoat. I honestly don't see what's so hard about this.

[TinCow]

We have two lynches left.

Prove it.

[Reenk Roink]

Prove it.

6 left.

1 lynch now so 5 left.

1 kill if the said lynched isn't the Godfather so 4 left.

Now unless you actually believe there are two Mafia left (I cannot believe this revision of theories based on songs by the way), having 4 left guarantees another lynch.

As khaan would say: "It's MATH!"

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

After the unicycle kill:

White_eyes suspects seamus of being the killer and goes after him:

I am going to Vote:Seamus...clearly it had something to do with someone upset with Sasaki and how he was manipulating town.....Seamus fits that description....

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ok....I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.....but give me some evidence that you wouldn't do a write-up that long and action-packed.... but I have a feeling you would do a write-up like that Seamus....

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Seamus is likely Pro-town.....but killing Sasaki makes me nervous...
I don't trust vigilantes.... and it could just be a ploy by the Mafia...

Looks like he views the new killer as a threat and wants to eliminate him.


White_eyes on tevash after Seamus points out that WE's said he would vote for tevash but hasn't:

Come on....his lynch was going to happen no matter what.....do I need to beat his dead some more? I mean the guy won;t even defend himself....or even log on.....what do you expect....??

Perhaps annoyed that tevash hasn't showed up to defend himself.

Both seem somewhat obsessed with taka:

I cannot and will not vote for taka just yet as a part of our mutual trust treaty. Him being a lurker is soo suspecious but I have taka guilt sensor and when he is guilty I should notice it..

Taka will be my vote, but he will not get my vote until we are down to 10.

I am more worried about the lurkers......where are you guys anyway...?? I admit this looks ugly....but at least have the stones to show up and help discussion.....Vote:Random lurker glyphz

FoS: Taka

We really need to keep a eye on him too.. He is frankly too good at dodging the radar.

and so on.

During these rounds they mostly kept a low profile. Mostly ignored the cases on shlin and ares. White said he was sure that shlin was innocent after he had already been lynched.

Summary: Not much happened with these two during the last twenty pages, that's why I put it in a spoiler. Some suspicious stuff where white_eyes seemed to suspect Seamus of being the vigilante and trying to lynch him. Then they kept a low profile and didn't comment much.


Having made this case, I must say I am not capable of analyzing the other players with an unbiased eye. Someone else will have to do that. Will require a reread of the game most likely.

What I will try and do is make an alternate theory, one where Lord Winter was guilty and tevash was actually the detective who merely became to annoyed at the game and all the people bandwaggoning on a case he thought was poor and decided to quit. I may come up with something interesting, or I may be too blinded.

[taka]

i believe the tally is:

WE 1 (Andres)
Beefy 1 (Quintus)
Reenk 1 (Reenk)
Taka 1 (Taka)
Quintus: (Beefy)

just WE to vote

[Beefy187]

Woot we have a 5 way tie.

I dare WE to vote Andres and the circle will be complete

[White_eyes:D]

Woot we have a 5 way tie.

I dare WE to vote Andres and the circle will be complete

....no I am going to sleep....have fun getting killed by the Mafia.....
I may vote tomorrow.....but don't count on it.....only way to make sure Godfather and any of his grunts don't get though is to have a five way tie.....

[Beefy187]

....no I am going to sleep....have fun getting killed by the Mafia.....
I may vote tomorrow.....but don't count on it.....only way to make sure Godfather and any of his grunts don't get though is to have a five way tie.....

Suit your self

Sweet dreams White_eyes and anyone who's living in America or Europe. I'll see you guys in few hours

[Sasaki Kojiro]

fine......hopefully I won't get stabbed in the back for this......Unvote:taka
I find it weird how all of sudden Sasaki finds me scummy....how you even looked into Reenk, Andres or even Quintus.JCs patterns yet?

I've found quintus and reenk scummy at times and defended andres in the past. Don't think I'm the person to do a full scale investigation. We need more from the living.

I think Tevash was a mafia. He didn't provide his detective role pm. He never posted since his lynch even though he was online. Clearly scummy

We either have God Father left, in which case we have two nights, or a Grunt and God Father in that case tonights is the night of the knights.... Like someone ales said, its better to assume that tonights the last.

I think I gave my choice of grunts if I'm the God Father which was Ichigo and Sasaki to win, ATPG and Reenk for lols iirc.

Out of those who are left, taka will be my grunt one. God Father is unlikely to pick someone who is likely to get attention. Taka won Brubber and he is not likely to be chosen two games in a row. Needless to say, taka has that strange "Hey look I'm innocent" aura.

Andres is still around is he not? He will be my grunt two. I would appreciate one mafia vet in the crew.

White_eyes would be a good choice too. For some reason he doesn't seem to get lynched early unless he is suicidal like in Never Winters.

Those will be my choice.

Sorry, didn't mean "who would you pick as grunts". I meant who do you think is mafia.

Final show down.

Vote: QJC

Three way tie isn't it?

What reasoning for this vote? Did you think it was a three way tie because the only other votes you remembered were the votes on you and white_eyes?


edit:

i believe the tally is:

WE 1 (Andres)
Beefy 1 (Quintus)
Reenk 1 (Reenk)
Taka 1 (Taka)
Quintus: (Beefy)

just WE to vote

Remember, there are probably two mafia left. We're probably going to need three votes on one of them to lynch. For example, as it stands now white_eyes and beefy could switch to taka or reenk right before the deadline and win, unless one of them had three votes on him.

[Quintus.JC]

....no I am going to sleep....have fun getting killed by the Mafia.....
I may vote tomorrow.....but don't count on it.....only way to make sure Godfather and any of his grunts don't get though is to have a five way tie.....

Why are you trying to delay your vote at this critical stage?

Maybe you'll vote just in the last minute in an attempt to sway the tally in your favour, that is suspicious behaviour WE.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

We have two lynches left.

Also, winning is fun, but this is more fun.

Edit: obviously I still believe Andres is probably a Godfather too if QJC is not, and I believe his not voting for me is to set up a scapegoat. I honestly don't see what's so hard about this.

Only with a solo godfather: 6 - 1L#1 = 5, 5- 1m = 4, 4 - 1L#2 = 3, 3 - 1m = 2, Godfather wins.

With an associate: 6 - 1L#1 = 5, 5 - 1m = 4, but with 2 mafiosi that's a mafia win right there.

So Reenk, do you always play endgames by not reading other's posts? I had already discussed this in detail before the night write up. Since I am certain you are not stupid, and though I know your STYLE to be cavalier your play is anything BUT....

Vote: Reenk Roink

....alas, I cannot do it. The Reenkster decided I was evil on a hunch and got me lynched. I do admire your play sir, yes indeedly-doodly I do.

[Reenk Roink]

Only with a solo godfather: 6 - 1L#1 = 5, 5- 1m = 4, 4 - 1L#2 = 3, 3 - 1m = 2, Godfather wins.

With an associate: 6 - 1L#1 = 5, 5 - 1m = 4, but with 2 mafiosi that's a mafia win right there.

So Reenk, do you always play endgames by not reading other's posts? I had already discussed this in detail before the night write up. Since I am certain you are not stupid, and though I know your STYLE to be cavalier your play is anything BUT....

Vote: Reenk Roink

....alas, I cannot do it. The Reenkster decided I was evil on a hunch and got me lynched. I do admire your play sir, yes indeedly-doodly I do.

I did glance at your post (and see mine above). I don't agree at all that there are two Mafia left.

Even if we grant there are two Mafia remaining now, if the town just listens to me and knocks of Andres, and then listens to me again and knocks off the other guy I pick, and both of these guys happen to be Mafia, we win!

I honestly can't think of a better plan.

[TinCow]

I honestly can't think of a better plan.

How about playing it safe by assuming this is the last lynch phase the town will get, and thus it had better be right? You may say you don't care about winning, but I'm sure most of the other players do.

[Reenk Roink]

How about playing it safe by assuming this is the last lynch phase the town will get, and thus it had better be right? You may say you don't care about winning, but I'm sure most of the other players do.

First I never said I didn't care about winning...

Ok sure, if you really want to, then lynch me as you seem to think I am the best choice for your victory. I will help you achieve what you think will lead to your victory (I have a good writeup for my lynch already done, and I don't have to bother with the generic writeup then ).

Unvote: Andres
Vote: Reenk Roink

[TinCow]

First I never said I didn't care about winning...

Not in those exact words, but you did pretty clearly state that you would enjoy lynching someone you didn't think was the Godfather more than you would enjoy winning the game:

Also, winning is fun, but this is more fun.

Your schizophrenic play style is entertaining, but as noted by Seamus, you're a smart guy. I simply don't believe you'd intentionally avoid doing whatever you thought would win you the game at this late a phase. You're playing to win just like everyone else, which give dubious authenticity to your statements about doing the opposite.

[Beefy187]

Do you mind posting your correspondence with beefy from early in the game?

I had a mutual trust alliance with taka. Which is something I do with taka almost every single large games. We try a couple stunts to catch the mafia but it never goes too well
In this game, we had it until we were down to last 10. Unfortunately, we both survived.

Before I go into explaining. Mathematics shows that we lynched at least one mafia. But if we have two left we are gone which I'm sure some of you already explained

I guess I owe a explanation? I'll start answering Sasakis

1. Write ups

I can't defend my self here. No matter what I say, I could say the truth that I didn't write any of it. But don't think anyone is going to believe it now.

2. Lord Winter lynch

Like I said, Sasaki voted for Lord Winter, who was at that stage not that suspected. Me and Sasaki was the big gun. Sasaki voting for other instead of voting for me, meant he was willing to sacrifice his life. I voted my self as I didn't think Sasaki was guilty, and so we get more time to discuss other then two of us, who looks scummy.

Then on came YLC voting for him self. I did it too, but while mine was to give town more time, and for a fair run for Sasaki, YLC was willing to kill him self for no reason.

I wasn't angry but I was slightly annoyed at YLCs reasoning. Thats why I came out more aggressive then I thought to Rythmic. And I immediately realized that but I didn't want to edit my post if possible as that looks scummy.

3. Tevash vs ATPG

To be honest, I didn't want to lynch either of them. If I had other choice then I would've voted for other fellows. I was a big ATPG supporter. But Tevash revealed as a detective. I know that no matter how scummy it looks, if Tevash has even small possibility of being the detective, I have to save him instead of ATPG who is at most just a plain old townie.

So I started as a ATPG supporter, leaned towards Tevash, then ended up going for ATPG as Tevash revealed.

4. Ignomorus

Not a fan of lurkers. Never was and never will be. Especially if Igno lives with few posts and shows up just to make a vote with few reasonings, just as if his avoiding the WoG its silly not to think that his guilty. Mafia killed him, so I realize I was wrong about Igno. But I had suspicions.

I know I haven't been perfect player. I got lots of things wrong. But I gave the most attention to this game. I've tried hard. And its going to sting if we end up losing. Lynching me will be the wrong choice.

I'll be around if anyone has more questions. Ill try my best to defend my self

[Beefy187]

Final show down.

Vote: QJC

Three way tie isn't it?