Last edited by Reenk Roink; 02-26-2009 at 20:52.
6 left.
1 lynch now so 5 left.
1 kill if the said lynched isn't the Godfather so 4 left.
Now unless you actually believe there are two Mafia left (I cannot believe this revision of theories based on songs by the way), having 4 left guarantees another lynch.
As khaan would say: "It's MATH!"![]()
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Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Summary: Not much happened with these two during the last twenty pages, that's why I put it in a spoiler. Some suspicious stuff where white_eyes seemed to suspect Seamus of being the vigilante and trying to lynch him. Then they kept a low profile and didn't comment much.
Having made this case, I must say I am not capable of analyzing the other players with an unbiased eye. Someone else will have to do that. Will require a reread of the game most likely.
What I will try and do is make an alternate theory, one where Lord Winter was guilty and tevash was actually the detective who merely became to annoyed at the game and all the people bandwaggoning on a case he thought was poor and decided to quit. I may come up with something interesting, or I may be too blinded.
i believe the tally is:
WE 1 (Andres)
Beefy 1 (Quintus)
Reenk 1 (Reenk)
Taka 1 (Taka)
Quintus: (Beefy)
just WE to vote
Last edited by taka; 02-27-2009 at 01:27.
I've found quintus and reenk scummy at times and defended andres in the past. Don't think I'm the person to do a full scale investigation. We need more from the living.
Sorry, didn't mean "who would you pick as grunts". I meant who do you think is mafia.
What reasoning for this vote? Did you think it was a three way tie because the only other votes you remembered were the votes on you and white_eyes?
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Remember, there are probably two mafia left. We're probably going to need three votes on one of them to lynch. For example, as it stands now white_eyes and beefy could switch to taka or reenk right before the deadline and win, unless one of them had three votes on him.Originally Posted by taka
Last edited by Sasaki Kojiro; 02-27-2009 at 02:08.
Only with a solo godfather: 6 - 1L#1 = 5, 5- 1m = 4, 4 - 1L#2 = 3, 3 - 1m = 2, Godfather wins.
With an associate: 6 - 1L#1 = 5, 5 - 1m = 4, but with 2 mafiosi that's a mafia win right there.
So Reenk, do you always play endgames by not reading other's posts? I had already discussed this in detail before the night write up. Since I am certain you are not stupid, and though I know your STYLE to be cavalier your play is anything BUT....
Vote: Reenk Roink
....alas, I cannot do it. The Reenkster decided I was evil on a hunch and got me lynched. I do admire your play sir, yes indeedly-doodly I do.
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I did glance at your post (and see mine above). I don't agree at all that there are two Mafia left.
Even if we grant there are two Mafia remaining now, if the town just listens to me and knocks of Andres, and then listens to me again and knocks off the other guy I pick, and both of these guys happen to be Mafia, we win!
I honestly can't think of a better plan.![]()
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First I never said I didn't care about winning...
Ok sure, if you really want to, then lynch me as you seem to think I am the best choice for your victory. I will help you achieve what you think will lead to your victory (I have a good writeup for my lynch already done, and I don't have to bother with the generic writeup then).
Unvote: Andres
Vote: Reenk Roink
Not in those exact words, but you did pretty clearly state that you would enjoy lynching someone you didn't think was the Godfather more than you would enjoy winning the game:
Your schizophrenic play style is entertaining, but as noted by Seamus, you're a smart guy. I simply don't believe you'd intentionally avoid doing whatever you thought would win you the game at this late a phase. You're playing to win just like everyone else, which give dubious authenticity to your statements about doing the opposite.
I had a mutual trust alliance with taka. Which is something I do with taka almost every single large games. We try a couple stunts to catch the mafia but it never goes too well
In this game, we had it until we were down to last 10. Unfortunately, we both survived.
Before I go into explaining. Mathematics shows that we lynched at least one mafia. But if we have two left we are gone which I'm sure some of you already explained
I guess I owe a explanation? I'll start answering Sasakis
1. Write ups
I can't defend my self here. No matter what I say, I could say the truth that I didn't write any of it. But don't think anyone is going to believe it now.
2. Lord Winter lynch
Like I said, Sasaki voted for Lord Winter, who was at that stage not that suspected. Me and Sasaki was the big gun. Sasaki voting for other instead of voting for me, meant he was willing to sacrifice his life. I voted my self as I didn't think Sasaki was guilty, and so we get more time to discuss other then two of us, who looks scummy.
Then on came YLC voting for him self. I did it too, but while mine was to give town more time, and for a fair run for Sasaki, YLC was willing to kill him self for no reason.
I wasn't angry but I was slightly annoyed at YLCs reasoning. Thats why I came out more aggressive then I thought to Rythmic. And I immediately realized that but I didn't want to edit my post if possible as that looks scummy.
3. Tevash vs ATPG
To be honest, I didn't want to lynch either of them. If I had other choice then I would've voted for other fellows. I was a big ATPG supporter. But Tevash revealed as a detective. I know that no matter how scummy it looks, if Tevash has even small possibility of being the detective, I have to save him instead of ATPG who is at most just a plain old townie.
So I started as a ATPG supporter, leaned towards Tevash, then ended up going for ATPG as Tevash revealed.
4. Ignomorus
Not a fan of lurkers. Never was and never will be. Especially if Igno lives with few posts and shows up just to make a vote with few reasonings, just as if his avoiding the WoG its silly not to think that his guilty. Mafia killed him, so I realize I was wrong about Igno. But I had suspicions.
I know I haven't been perfect player. I got lots of things wrong. But I gave the most attention to this game. I've tried hard. And its going to sting if we end up losing. Lynching me will be the wrong choice.
I'll be around if anyone has more questions. Ill try my best to defend my self
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