Sengoku Jidai, Japanese interactive History

**Kagemusha** · 02-28-2009, 16:22

From Kitabatake,

First we would like to address Otomo Sorin. Surely Otomo is old and prestigeous Clan, but nothing special. For example i Kitabatake Tomonori can trace myself to living Gods, as i am descendant of an Tenno Murakami. About the honour and lack of it of certain Clans. As far as i can remember. It was Shimazu who took petty on the Otomo Clan, as it was in the verge of destruction. If i would look at most brave and honourable Clan of Kuyshu. It would be no doubt the Shimazu.

Also considering Miyoshi. I think That the Kanrei has shown with his deeds, acts that Otomo and their allies cant tarnish with their words. While Clans like Oda and Asai invaded our domain in order to annex our lands to theirs. The most honourable Kanrei gave me his army and support to take it back. Would it been Otomo, Asai or Oda, My lands would have been annexed straight to their domains, while Kanrei suffers of no such greed by giving us Kitabatake our lands back.

Kitabatake Tomonori

**AggonyDuck** · 02-28-2009, 18:22

Originally Posted by Kagemusha

From Kitabatake,

Also considering Miyoshi. I think That the Kanrei has shown with his deeds, acts that Otomo and their allies cant tarnish with their words. While Clans like Oda and Asai invaded our domain in order to annex our lands to theirs. The most honourable Kanrei gave me his army and support to take it back. Would it been Otomo, Asai or Oda, My lands would have been annexed straight to their domains, while Kanrei suffers of no such greed by giving us Kitabatake our lands back.

Kitabatake Tomonori

You truly know nothing of me and my treatment of my allies. If I had been in the position of Miyoshi, I would had done the same. But as I am not Miyoshi Chokei, but Oda Nobunaga, the circumstances are different. You see, the Miyoshi have understood that gratitude paves the way to willing servitude. We tried to make your father our vassal and in the process we made you a Miyoshi servant. Life does have a certain irony to it, don't you think?

Oda Nobunaga

OOC: Kage, do you have a list of the province income somewhere? I've forgotten about it and need to do some calculations.

**Prince Cobra** · 02-28-2009, 18:25

To make this clear. Miyoshi have no claims over the Kitabatake lands.

Miyoshi Chokei, Kanrei

**Kagemusha** · 02-28-2009, 18:30

From Kitabatake to Oda,

We consider ourselves friends of Miyoshi, not servants. As Shugo family we are servants of the Ashikaga Shogunate. You can say what you want, but your allies started the war to annex our domain and the Kanrei came to our aid as he is supposed when a legal Shugo of a province is being harassed by rebels. You and your allies are rebels, while i am Shugo of Ise and Miyoshi Chokei is rightful Kanrei, appointed by the Shogun. Previous Hosokawa Kanreis were too weak to defend their Shugo´s, but Miyoshi Chokei has successfully already defended me and Kono Michinao. You can be sure that i will do my utmost best to help crushing your rebellion, so Kinki area can witness peace once more.

Kitabatake Tomonori

EDIT: Duckie, such list open for players does not exist. You only know what you can find out.

**Paradox** · 02-28-2009, 19:09

To Otomo Sorin:

I would briefly like to point out that my father was loathed by his own people as well as his retainers. This is enough information to conclude that he was, to put it bluntly, a plain bad leader. And as I doubt you know, the populace was growing more and more displeased of him due to his harsh rule. You say I'm an opportunistic thief, but I guess that's just one of the qualities I picked up during his advantageous intervention during the Imagawa succession feud.

I am hoping that the fellow loyal warlords in the west won't destroy you before I have the chance to dominate you in the battlefield, just as the Shimazu should have done.

**Revolting Friendship** · 02-28-2009, 20:38

To Takeda:

Saving a clan sometimes cost money, building a strong economy costs money, the people pay for such things. Enjoy the security your father bought you, now you'll not need to be disagreeable with your people for doing what someone had to do. Ungrateful dog.

To Kitabatake:

My point is not that I care about stock and rights, even though I have both. My point is that these slandering enemies of mine pretend to care about such things, when they refer to them, branding me a dishonorable traitor, backstabbing scum and a rebel, for doing things they have already done time and time again. For such things they claim their right to destroy me, and encourage others to do the same. They are hypocrites, this is why I despise them. The whole political situation of this country is nothing but a farce.

I have reclaimed the lands that were "rightfully mine". I have laid claims to lands of enemies that weren't "rightfully" theirs. Miyoshi Chokei conspired and fought his Lords and his uncle and destroyed both, took what was theirs, gave nothing back, and then he took control of the Shogun, forced on himself the title of Kanrei, and now he sits there in his castle with his pet figurehead and assumes to be a just and noble ruler; branding other warlords as rebels and agitators for emulating his deeds... He's sitting there, pissing on himself and everyone who supports him. He has branded himself and everyone else as rebels and traitors who should rightly be brought to justice and killed.

Well then. I will be their executioner, if they will be mine. Come, and let us punish eachother for our transgressions.

Ôtomo Sorin

**ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88** · 02-28-2009, 21:01

I won't be on tomarrow (Sunday) by the way. I will return on Monday and I will send my decsions out Tuesday

**Kagemusha** · 02-28-2009, 21:06

From Kitabatake,

Well spoken Lord Otomo, while i disagree with many things. You believe that you can be a force that can unite Nippon. I believe that the current Bakufu can do it. Let swords decide who is right as the winner will decide who was wrong and who not. I look forward crossing swords with Otomo.

Kitabatake Tomonori

**Prince Cobra** · 03-03-2009, 11:48

Watch your double-tip tongue, Otomo Sorin, otherwise I can have it nailed on the scaffold.

Miyoshi Chokei, Kanrei

**ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88** · 03-05-2009, 17:51

Hoe many people got their orders in so far Kage?

I get my in tonight or tomarrow morning (Friday).

**ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88** · 03-02-2009, 17:59

Originally Posted by Fahad I

To Otomo Sorin:

I am hoping that the fellow loyal warlords in the west won't destroy you before I have the chance to dominate you in the battlefield, just as the Shimazu should have done.

My respect to you Lord Takeda, but I disargee. I do not like Otomo Sorin. You don't ethier and he proably hates us just the same.

I will make sure me and my allies destory him for you, and if he is still standing anyhow, you may have the honour of killing this rebel dog.

Lord Yamana Yoshisada

**Revolting Friendship** · 03-02-2009, 19:04

Burning preposterous letters from Lord Yamana over his oil-lamp, Ôtomo Sorin keeps himself warm throughout winter. Outside, the Ôtomo samurai practice their kyûdô on the implicitly target-like Yamana mon, torn from captured sashimono. The pet idiot of Miyoshi Chokei figure extensively in kyôgen intermissions, in theatres throughout the Ôtomo domains. Much jollity is shared by commoners and aristocrats alike.