Colonies, eh?

**Greyblades** · 03-01-2009, 12:31

Well the barnaby states (I think thats what they are called) are in it, but they seem very buddy-buddy with the ottomans from what I saw in the screenshots.

**Sir Beane** · 03-01-2009, 12:41

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Well the barnaby states (I think thats what they are called) are in it, but they seem very buddy-buddy with the ottomans from what I saw in the screenshots.

At the time they were an Ottoman protectorate. The Ottomans probably appreciated the fact that they took christians as slaves and disturbed christian shipping, but generally left Muslims alone.

They are, however, hated by just about everyone else. Apparently they raided for slaves as far North as Iceland. Over the years they wiped out entire villages and took thousands of Europeans hostage. Apparently people stopped living near the coast in many areas of Italy, for fear of being attacked.

They'll be one of the first Nations to go if I have my way. And the rest of Europe will probably thank me for it

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**Polemists** · 03-01-2009, 13:19

At the time they were an Ottoman protectorate. The Ottomans probably appreciated the fact that they took christians as slaves and disturbed christian shipping, but generally left Muslims alone.

Common Knights of Malta....save me :)

**GMaximus** · 03-01-2009, 18:40

Originally Posted by Polemists

Common Knights of Malta....save me :)

What about the Sefevids? From what I recall, they're not very buddy-buddy with the Ottomans...

**Sir Beane** · 03-01-2009, 19:31

Originally Posted by GMaximus

What about the Sefevids? From what I recall, they're not very buddy-buddy with the Ottomans...

They seem to like he Barbary states though, if the screenshots are accurate. Probably because they are both Muslim.

**Polemists** · 03-02-2009, 05:48

Supposedly the Knights of Malta are quite the powerhouse early on, and if you read the Campaign report from Ottomans they do attack them early on.

Ottomans are so big i'm sure they'll have lots of hate, if you look at the one diplomatic screen the whole map is red for them lol. Plus they get revolts like everyone else. Though i'm curious what emergent factions they can get.