Colonies, eh?

[Dramicus]

Whats a reverse D-day?

Oh, its just Germany launching an amphibious invasion of North America, which would be the reverse of what happened in reality.

[A Very Super Market]

But... D-day was launched from England... with a majority of commonwealth troops...

Eh, the analogy doesn't quite work, but I will be using Prussia first. And I won't have time for colonies, not with the Poles, Russians, Swedes and other Germans on my back

[Dramicus]

But... D-day was launched from England... with a majority of commonwealth troops...

Eh, the analogy doesn't quite work, but I will be using Prussia first. And I won't have time for colonies, not with the Poles, Russians, Swedes and other Germans on my back

Bah, you get the gist of what I meant, there is little to be gained by arguing over semantics. About Prussia not having the time for colonies due to all the reasons you mentioned, that is exactly why I intend to let the other nations go through the trouble of establishing colonies.

Once you are secure in Europe, you can then expand your reach by taking through military means what everyone else worked so hard to create at relatively little cost to yourself, provided you plan accordingly and don't botch the invasion.

But of course, that is the tricky part, isn't it?

[Freedom Onanist]

Bah, you get the gist of what I meant, there is little to be gained by arguing over semantics. About Prussia not having the time for colonies due to all the reasons you mentioned, that is exactly why I intend to let the other nations go through the trouble of establishing colonies.

Once you are secure in Europe, you can then expand your reach by taking through military means what everyone else worked so hard to create at relatively little cost to yourself, provided you plan accordingly and don't botch the invasion.

But of course, that is the tricky part, isn't it?

Hmmmm.... That didn't work for old Kaiser Billy though did it? He threw his dummy out of his pram about wanting a piece of "empire" as well. He wanted an empire like granny Victoria as well. Not fair!!!!

Anyway, it all went a bit wrong and he ended up with alittle retirement home in Holland a few years later. Just goes to show, one minute, German Emperor and Prussian King, the next, pensioner in Holland

You'd be best off getting stuck in straight away.

[Dramicus]

Hmmmm.... That didn't work for old Kaiser Billy though did it? He threw his dummy out of his pram about wanting a piece of "empire" as well. He wanted an empire like granny Victoria as well. Not fair!!!!

Anyway, it all went a bit wrong and he ended up with alittle retirement home in Holland a few years later. Just goes to show, one minute, German Emperor and Prussian King, the next, pensioner in Holland

You'd be best off getting stuck in straight away.

Ah but the problem with that was he attempted to scratch up some colonies from whatever was left over. I'm not talking about establishing colonies in the last few territories that no one wanted late game, I'm suggesting a full-scale invasion of already established colonies.

[Hax]

I'll hang around a bit in my Seven Provinces and try to cling on to my colonies at Indonesia Netherlands-Indies. Also, I want Nieuw Amsterdam back. Or I'll play as the Ottomans and kick those damn Austrians from the walls of Vienna!

[Polemists]

Just because your a landlocked faction dosn't mean you can't take part in Colonlization if want you to.

I will be playing Austria and go off conquering.

The key is if you are willing to make friends with those who would be historically your rivals. As clearly I can't be historic austria and fight Ottomans, Poland, Prussia, German states, and Spain and still hope for colonies.

It's all about making choices :)

[Sir Beane]

If you happen to be landlocked at the start just keep taking territory until you aren't . It's both simple and profitable.

[Polemists]

actually if you look at the map no nation I can see is landlocked at the start. I think every nation has a port province.

Which makes sense as this is a naval game after all.

[Sir Beane]

actually if you look at the map no nation I can see is landlocked at the start. I think every nation has a port province.

Which makes sense as this is a naval game after all.

I don't think any of the major nations are landlocked, but some of the minor ones are.

[ArtillerySmoke]

actually if you look at the map no nation I can see is landlocked at the start. I think every nation has a port province.

Which makes sense as this is a naval game after all.

What's going to be really deep strategy is balancing expansion and peace within your empire.

It's going to be really tempting to start expanding on another continent, but this will definitely leave us vulnerable at home for at least a period of time. That is, unless you build a significant continental army and keep it at home just in case first.

[Polemists]

Well as I want to conquer the carribean (Trade theatre) I guess I get to find out just how useful the militia is.

You know since they probably have to hold off the entire Ottoman empire with 500 guys and two cannons....yay.....

Here's hoping some other nation that is not Austria will occupy thier attention....pirates?

[Greyblades]

Well the barnaby states (I think thats what they are called) are in it, but they seem very buddy-buddy with the ottomans from what I saw in the screenshots.

[Sir Beane]

Well the barnaby states (I think thats what they are called) are in it, but they seem very buddy-buddy with the ottomans from what I saw in the screenshots.

At the time they were an Ottoman protectorate. The Ottomans probably appreciated the fact that they took christians as slaves and disturbed christian shipping, but generally left Muslims alone.

They are, however, hated by just about everyone else. Apparently they raided for slaves as far North as Iceland. Over the years they wiped out entire villages and took thousands of Europeans hostage. Apparently people stopped living near the coast in many areas of Italy, for fear of being attacked.

They'll be one of the first Nations to go if I have my way. And the rest of Europe will probably thank me for it .

[Polemists]

At the time they were an Ottoman protectorate. The Ottomans probably appreciated the fact that they took christians as slaves and disturbed christian shipping, but generally left Muslims alone.

Common Knights of Malta....save me :)

[SirGrotius]

I'm hoping they'll at least be profitable from a trade prespective. I wish the game kept track of PRESTIGE.

[GMaximus]

Common Knights of Malta....save me :)

What about the Sefevids? From what I recall, they're not very buddy-buddy with the Ottomans...

[Sir Beane]

What about the Sefevids? From what I recall, they're not very buddy-buddy with the Ottomans...

They seem to like he Barbary states though, if the screenshots are accurate. Probably because they are both Muslim.

[Polemists]

Supposedly the Knights of Malta are quite the powerhouse early on, and if you read the Campaign report from Ottomans they do attack them early on.

Ottomans are so big i'm sure they'll have lots of hate, if you look at the one diplomatic screen the whole map is red for them lol. Plus they get revolts like everyone else. Though i'm curious what emergent factions they can get.

[A Very Super Market]

I wonder if you can install client states, like the mamelukes.

[quadalpha]

(Where is this Ottoman report I keep hearing about?)

[Polemists]

It's over at the total war forum center. Title Ottoman Campaign report.

It is actually from a turkish website but it was loosely translated on other forums


http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...hlight=Ottoman