The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I expected this game to be over...

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When 2PM rolled around today, I breathed a sigh of relief. I thought to myself: Good, now I don't have to try anymore. They either listened to the evidence, and the testimonies, and watched the voting behavior and made the correct choice, or they did not.



It's no longer my concern or responsibility, and I can finally take a break after this massive game. But instead, I log on to find out if the Godfather smoked us all, and instead, we have a tie.


Can I just ask... when Beefy didn't vote for himself, and tried to win the game for his side, which is town, why people questioned him for saving himself? And why was that question not proposed to Reenk Roink, who voted for everybody else last round to save himself? Double standard is all. One player seems concerned that town is going to win, and the other player seems concerned that he is going to live. That's my analysis, but I'm spoilering it because I understand people have had their fill of my opinion for one game... for any game.


I would plead with the town... who among us doesn't admire how well Beefy played the game, if he were the Godfather? How many times did he self-vote? It was more than once. Let me get my notes...


Beefy187, post 408. Early game, no pressure on him really:

In that case, I got more then enough time to defend my self don't I? (I am in Japan now. So Im GST +9 or something)

Vote:Beefy

I don't think Sasaki is guilty either so just to save him.

I am more then willing to defend my self. But I don't know where to start. Could you give me couple of questions I can answer?

Okay. Well, that seems reasonable enough. Didn't he vote for himself at other times, too?

And correct me if I am wrong, but Beefy was doing his University exam from the 23-25th. He had no posts here during that stretch. AT ALL. On the forum.

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02-25-2009, 03:44
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The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
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Posted By Beefy187
Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)

In case for those who went to see who is on and saw my name, and preparing a case against as I speak as I'm online even though I said I won't be..

I was actually expecting this game to finish...

Forum: Gameroom 02-23-2009, 22:21
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The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
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Posted By Beefy187
Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)

And thanks to this conversation, my place for the final lot of survivors is sealed..
"What about Beefy?"
"Leave him.. Lynch bait"

I'll hate to have another Kung Fu mafia situation ...

He was not here to do the murder that night.

He's been passive and defending no one all game, pretty much. He's been kept alive as a scapegoat and a lynch victim. I read and read, but I could not find one compelling case against Beefy. Where is the case? Please give me a link. I want to read it.

I asked Reenk last round for a case against Taka, and he ignored me, but kept his vote on him. He changed his vote all over the place to save his own butt, but did not give a case, a real case, for why anyone but himself should be lynched.

If any townie, ANY townie, were to have behaved exactly as Reenk Roink has all game, he would have been lynched a long time ago. But everyone chalks it up to "Reenk being Reenk."

Well, Beefy is being Beefy! That's not a case, that's not even rational! Reenk would of course be Reenk as the Godfather, so would Beefy!



Is there anyone here, anyone, who can tell me why Beefy is the better lynch. I'll look at Reenk's posts and Andres posts and respond if I can. If there is anyone here who can please point me to those cases, it would save me a lot of time.


I just think our final lynch choice, whatever it may be, should be based on logic and evidence, not "bah, Reenk is always this way."

Maybe I am oversimplifying, and I apologize. Frankly, at this point, I am almost inclined to vote for Beefy when and if the dead can vote. Why not? He earned it if he can do the things that he did all game and escape the final lynch. Point blank, town was divided on the final vote, and so therefore there was no majority to lynch the Godfather.

So, in my mind, the Godfather wins. He killed all of you, all this time, and still managed to convince about half of you that he was innocent. So, let him win. You wanted sportsmanship? You wanted it to be about fun? Reenk made it fun, and he escaped your wrath, so he should win.

I'm not angry or bitter, indeed I congratulate Reenk for his success. I certainly could never have acted anywhere remotely like that and survived. Heck, one round after I presented SkyNet, I was lynched for trying to help, when most of you thought I was innocent.

If Reenk can blatantly vote for anyone who votes for him, can accuse people without evidence, can not look for viable suspects all game, if he can defend scummy people and have scummy people defend him (TevashSzat, Sasaki Kojiro, Lord Winter maybe), then what's the point? Reenk Roink could be the Godfather, beefy could be, taka could be, Andres could be... but if you don't vote based on the odds, the evidence, the actions, the suspects, the defenses, everything together, then I don't see why you can THEN turn around and question Beefy for trying to win the game as a townie by finally voting for Reenk, reluctantly.

It's a double standard. Everyone in the game should be held to the same standard, if you're going to vote based on scummy behavior. Hey, I don't mind! Call it what it is; a more or less random vote based on intuition.

Well, I can't say that, I have to go look at the cases presented against Beefy. Some help in that matter would be appreciated.

This post is long winded and spoilered for your protection.

I need help finding the case against Beefy, if anyone could send me links, thank you!