Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: Horses

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Senior Member Senior Member Fisherking's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    East of Augusta Vindelicorum
    Posts
    5,575

    Default Re: Horses

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910 View Post
    It really breaks down to the animals social structure.
    In order for a species to be domesticated, it has to be able to recognize you as a master or leader over it.


    Horses are difficult to break, but once broken, they are usually subservient. Zebras don't break.
    Zebras can and have been trained but they have a nasty temper and are difficult to handle.

    The are looked upon as nonedomesticateable. Several other equines fall into this also.

    Zebras have a heard structure similar to horses so over a long amount of time it could be possible to domesticate them…but they are so nasty no one would really want to.

    Breaking is a bad term…many animals won’t break but can be trained. They really aren’t big enough to ride like a horse and wouldn’t last long in that capacity.

    Horses are always trying to improve their rank even with humans. Mine is very dominant but trying to make her do something is much harder than showing her how and getting her to cooperate. Just like it would be with people…sooner or later they will make a break for it. But if they are willing they will always stick by you.


    Education: that which reveals to the wise,
    and conceals from the stupid,
    the vast limits of their knowledge.
    Mark Twain

  2. #2
    Ice stink there for a ham. Member Mystery Science Torture 3000 Champion, Mini Putt 3 Champion, Super Hacky Sack Champion, Pencak Champion, Sperm Wars Champion, Monkey Diving Champion Yoyoma1910's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Yarr me matey. I be livin on the high seas.
    Posts
    2,528

    Default Re: Horses

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    Zebras can and have been trained but they have a nasty temper and are difficult to handle.

    The are looked upon as nonedomesticateable. Several other equines fall into this also.

    Zebras have a heard structure similar to horses so over a long amount of time it could be possible to domesticate them…but they are so nasty no one would really want to.

    Breaking is a bad term…many animals won’t break but can be trained. They really aren’t big enough to ride like a horse and wouldn’t last long in that capacity.

    Horses are always trying to improve their rank even with humans. Mine is very dominant but trying to make her do something is much harder than showing her how and getting her to cooperate. Just like it would be with people…sooner or later they will make a break for it. But if they are willing they will always stick by you.
    Well, that's it. Zebras don't break. You can train them, but like bears they won't break to you. And that is the term for it, at least as far a horses are concerned.
    Last edited by Yoyoma1910; 03-04-2009 at 17:29.

    My kingdom for a .

  3. #3
    master of the pwniverse Member Fragony's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    The EUSSR
    Posts
    30,680

    Default Re: Horses

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910 View Post
    Well, that's it. Zebras don't break. You can train them, but like bears they won't break to you. And that is the term for it, at least as far a horses are concerned.
    Just not used to it, they did some experiments with a fox, in just a few generations it was a pet. These Prezwalski's are the oldest known breed of horses, and some think that horses (and dogs) were already used for hunting even before the neolithical revolution, that's got to leave a mark.
    Last edited by Fragony; 03-04-2009 at 18:58.

  4. #4
    Ice stink there for a ham. Member Mystery Science Torture 3000 Champion, Mini Putt 3 Champion, Super Hacky Sack Champion, Pencak Champion, Sperm Wars Champion, Monkey Diving Champion Yoyoma1910's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Yarr me matey. I be livin on the high seas.
    Posts
    2,528

    Default Re: Horses

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Just not used to it, they did some experiments with a fox, in just a few generations it was a pet. These Prezwalski's are the oldest known breed of horses, and some think that horses (and dogs) were already used for hunting even before the neolithical revolution, that's got to leave a mark.
    Selective breeding is how we achieved almost all if not all of our current domesticated animals.

    silver fox

    Perhaps a horse is descended from the zebra...

    But a zebra is not a horse.

    The species in general doesn't tame well. Instead people make zebroids.
    Last edited by Yoyoma1910; 03-04-2009 at 19:25.

    My kingdom for a .

  5. #5

    Default Re: Horses

    ... I could not keep away from this thread..

    In Australia, horsemanship always becomes an argument between people. Argh!

    But I must say, you will speak for yourself FisherKing when you say so generally that, 'we', do not teach our horses very much.
    And mine at least are not at all like people, for they have inexhaustible patience, and I would hardly care for them if they were humanoid - even in personality!

    I believe the reason why horsemanship is such a violent topic among aspiring horsefolk is either because both parties are trying desperately to show they appreciate the horse more than the other, or because both parties are trying to force their insufferable wisdom upon the other.

    Thus, I am always afraid of entering into a discussion about them - especially when it is to begin with a complaint about people.

    In any case, I am glad to see a rider on the forums.

  6. #6
    Old Town Road Senior Member Strike For The South's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Between Louis' sheets
    Posts
    10,369

    Default Re: Horses

    I wish I knew how to ride. I wish I could afford a horse to! I have to settle for a pickup and a dog! Gah. I envy the lot of you.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

  7. #7
    Senior Member Senior Member Fisherking's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    East of Augusta Vindelicorum
    Posts
    5,575

    Default Re: Horses

    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    ... I could not keep away from this thread..

    In Australia, horsemanship always becomes an argument between people. Argh!

    But I must say, you will speak for yourself FisherKing when you say so generally that, 'we', do not teach our horses very much.
    And mine at least are not at all like people, for they have inexhaustible patience, and I would hardly care for them if they were humanoid - even in personality!

    I believe the reason why horsemanship is such a violent topic among aspiring horsefolk is either because both parties are trying desperately to show they appreciate the horse more than the other, or because both parties are trying to force their insufferable wisdom upon the other.

    Thus, I am always afraid of entering into a discussion about them - especially when it is to begin with a complaint about people.

    In any case, I am glad to see a rider on the forums.
    I am glad to see you joined in Glenn!

    I won’t argue about their patience either.

    All I meant by teaching a horse, is that the horses already know how to do most of it.

    We just show them a cue so they know what we are asking for…

    Have fun!

    And SFTS… I can remember when you could pick up a horse for about $35 in Texas…

    Times change and so does money. Pickups just don’t have that touch of personality that a good horse does.


    Education: that which reveals to the wise,
    and conceals from the stupid,
    the vast limits of their knowledge.
    Mark Twain

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO