In that case, master hypnosis or what ever which will spook him out.
If that doesn't work then use the last resort in the boarding school.. Act gay or really really weird.
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In that case, master hypnosis or what ever which will spook him out.
If that doesn't work then use the last resort in the boarding school.. Act gay or really really weird.
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My teacher in Kyudo said that Ninjutsu, in the West, is rarely trained in the traditional Japanese style.If you are willing to break a couple of bones, Ninjutsu will do the job.
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I lived for years with a roommate who was a bouncer. Him and his bouncer buddies would hang out and drink in our kitchen, fascinating stories. One thing they were all cautious about: Short guys. "I'll take a big guy anytime," one of them would groan. "Them short guys get mean way faster." They even had a term for it: "short guy's disease."
This is interesting. Have you tried using humor? Sometimes a well-placed joke will do a world of good. Ask him why he's so fixated on you. There are a hundred ways you could spin it to be funny, making his time spent with you seem ridiculous. The most obvious is the play it as though he's in love with you, but there are other angles. You could start riffing on the notion that he wants to be your groupie, that he mistakenly thinks you're a rock star. There are all kinds of ways to play it.
Humor can be a huge leveler, and a fantastic way of disarming dangerous situations. If you've got a decently-developed funny-bone ...
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That and always staying calm and not getting angry or agitated yourself can do wonders.
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Print out this thread and show it to the fellow, that should do the trick. In fact I'm surprised he's not in hospital already...
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lol, funny that you say that. I worked as a bouncer myself for some time. It was at the joint where my girl worked. Most bullies are the short guys. They have a 'short complex'. They are short and they know it, so they think that they have something to prove. Also, the get really dirty. Not meaning to pick on any short people here or anything. :P
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"A Karateka can kick the butt of a Judoka, yet no tthe one of a MuayThai fighter"- kinda discussions are pointless and don´t help. We ain´t playing Streetfighter II here gentlemen. Every school/ art has it´s pros and cons. I chose to do Shotokan Karate for years, one of my friends did Ninjitsu...who cares, as long as one likes it....fighting on the streets always sucks.
2 edyz: Read some Macchiavelli and kick his behind diplomatic style. Spread rumours about him [dirty, yet efficient], do little guerilla attacks [e.g. target his locker], win allies, try to avoid the sucker!
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Don't worry buddy. Just don't show up in South Louisiana.
Or you'll be surrounded by a bunch of really short people with short cousins that have alligator farms.
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Napoleon himself, the emperor of short people with complexes, was even supposed to retire here, but then he realized he would be one of the tallest people in the state. And there's nothing he hated more than a man with a worse Napoleon complex than himself.
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Try to end the conflict, not make it worst. The best way to avoid a fight is to have no enemies. Do not antagonise a psycho bully.
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U sure are right Vuk! 2Edyz: stick with Lao Tze, not with Macchiavelli. Just try to avoid the sucker!
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Just ignore whatever he does, and if he persists, hit back verbally... 'Why are you bothering me..? Oh, I see... sorry, I don't swing that way. Thanks though.' &c.
Never initiate something, and avoid rising to the bait. If he throws a punch, dodge it if you can, or just roll with it. Don't hit back. At most, see if you can't pick up some grappling techniques and put him, briefly, into a stress position. (This is assuming you can out-muscle him, if you can't, don't even bother). This is just to show him that you could hurt him, but can't be bothered/are a better man.
If you keep ignoring him, he'll get bored and bother someone else. If the only way he can bully you is physically, he won't be bright enough to stand up to you verbally.
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Seconded.
Pop his nose first, only then will you get allies.
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Machiavelli is so often misunderstood, one of the greatest thinkers of the renaissance
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Yup. The man really didn't believe that most of the stuff in The Prince was good. From what I've heard, and from my readings of The Prince and my professor's comments it sounds like he was more of a Republican if anything. I should probably read his other works before becoming too convinced of that though.Machiavelli is so often misunderstood, one of the greatest thinkers of the renaissance
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And what, exactly, is wrong with a little less suffering in the world?Machiavelli is so often misunderstood, one of the greatest thinkers of the renaissance
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Finally someone who sticks up for Machiavelli!Machiavelli is so often misunderstood, one of the greatest thinkers of the renaissanceHe talked about the warlike popes, so the church villanized him, and he has since been blamed for all of humanities problems (him and Bush :P).
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Machiavelli believed in good government, he was a humanist. He doesn't say a ruler should be ruthless, he says a ruler should keep a clear head, often misunderstood. You have to see it in the context of the time, the idea of how an ideal leader should act.
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Ok, so what do you do when a person threatens you with a crowbar because he heard some lies, and then deeply apologises for what he has done 20 mins later?
He is one unstable person...
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Sounds a little more than your common or garden everyday bully. Disregard my earlier comment about trying to roll with the hits, from a crowbar, that's not gonna work so well (we've all played Half-Life). Stay well clear of him, hopefully someone will get him some help, because he sounds psychotic, but I'd hate to be the guy that tells him he needs it.
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Psycho shmycko. This is normal behaviour among kids, even among adults, if left unchecked. It's a turf fight. Girls do it sneakily, boys violently. Probably half of this guy wants you to cave it to his intimidation, the other half of him wants you to fight back, be his equal, maybe even become friends with him. Stranger things have happened.
But you have to pop his nose.
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That is how I understood his writings. Keep cool and weigh out risks and opportunities of your actions. I loved to read his bboks, esp. considering the historical examples he uses.
Wasn´t it supposed to be a kind of educational work/ royal paedagogy writing?
Edyz: This sounds really like a unstable and neurotic/ psychotic person....try to stay away from that guy!
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Edyz. Just think what you are ready to sustain in order to get him to stop. For different people, the limits are different. You have to ask yourself are you ready to put yourself in situation where you can get damaged and do you think you can cope in such situation, other then getting yourself hurt?
Other way is to tell the school authorities what this person has been doing. If there are such harsh rules in your school, maybe messing around with crowbar in hand is enoguh to get suspended or kicked out. If you go down that road, you have to consider can you handle the social pressure, if people start saying that you ratted that guy out.
The situation is not much more different, then for example: If you see a guy on the road kicking your car. Will you go and punch his lights outs and put yourself to risk of being beaten, or will you call the cops?
My advice is that if you think you cant punch that guys lights out, it would be better to talk to authorities. In the end it could be better to do that in any case. Violence should only be reserved in situations where all other options are spent.
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Edyz, if that guy threatens you with a crowbar, that means that he is completely unhinged. Please do not fall for the advice some have given about 'busting his nose' and such, I am shocked that someone would give you that advice, as there is no way that that could end well.
If the guy could threaten you with a crowbar on minute, then 20 minutes later apologise, that means he is extremely impulsive, and could very well do things on a moments notice that he would not do if he gave them any thought. Edyz, I know that it feels very bad to get someone in trouble and see them kicked out of school, but you gotta do it. This guy is a nut Edyz, and it would be good for you and everyone else at the school who he may also be threatening/abusing.
Best of wishes to you,
Vuk
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Maybe the worst advice I've ever seen on the Internets. And that's including the guy who recommended putting your cat in the washing machine.
It's impossible for any of us to understand the details of your situation, edyz, but when people bring cranially-deforming metal objects into the equation, it's time to seek adult supervision. There are teachers, proctors and parents. Use them.
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2nded
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What's done is done. The goal now is to mitigate further incidents. One thing you can do is discreetly inform an authority (one that has the power and inclination to do something if another incident occurs) about what has happened and about your concern. If nothing else, it will heighten awareness and scrutiny. After that, keep your nose completely clean, avoid the guy as much as possible, and go about your business.
Another, similar approach is to mention to your parents, who are paying the school for you education, that things are fine except that your ability to focus on studies is being significantly impacted by this guy. If they approach the school authorities instead of you, it will likely carry more weight because they control what the school wants from you (money).
If these approaches are ineffective, a more creative solution may be necessary. As Kagemusha wrote, what are you willing to do (officer Jimmy Malone in "the Untouchables")? Whatever you do, don't do it half-ass. Sometimes a more extreme solution becomes necessary, as I indirectly suggested in my previous post. If so, think "out of the box," and go "over the top." Direct confrontation has its merits, but not in the environment you're in. There are other ways. Win without fighting.
Don't waste any more time and energy than you need to on it; think things through, cover all your bases (a baseball term), take decisive action, then let it go and focus on work and fun. Life's too short to be consumed by such things.
Edit - saw this after posting:
Imo, this is macho, sexist bologna. Win. Period.... Girls do it sneakily, boys violently. ...
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Not sure if he wrote it for that purpose, it reads like it, I think it's more of an attack on the early humanist views of what makes a good leader, that a leader should love his people and be generous and all that stuff.
edit: must be an attack, book is called 'The Prince' but Florence was a republic, and they were very proud of being a republic.
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Over here we call that "wee man's syndrome". There's nothing funnier than an angry midget.
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This is what is wrong with education in our day and age. Every little confrontation, even if only verbal, is blown way out of proportion.
This is the reason why police officer are called into schoolyards to separate fighting kids. It's the reason why a five-year-old boy gets therapy for kissing a five-year-old girl in class (oh, teh bully, teh sekshull harassment!).
Let's not be silly. Kids threaten eachtoher with all sorts of things. I've had worse threats than a crow-bar. I popped noses for less and I had mine popped as well for being a bully sometimes. It clears the air.
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So you would like to put Edyz on harms way because you had some success in your school yard brawls? How do you know his capabilities in the situation you would like to put him, or do you just want to shrug and tell him that if it would be you, you would show that bully his place in no time?
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