Awful, awful naval battles......

[crpcarrot]

is it just me or is the .ORG starting to look like the .COM site??

[AussieGiant]

is it just me or is the .ORG starting to look like the .COM site??

It's heading that way.

[Maleficus]

is it just me or is the .ORG starting to look like the .COM site??

Maybe it wouldn't if CA had got it right........

[batemonkey]

Well i love them and i've not found controling them too difficult. Although it is a challenge

If you plan it right you can roll the enemy's line right up.

If i'm outnumbered i don't really try and capture untill the odds are better

Brigs and sloops are quite useful for chasing down fleeing ships

[crpcarrot]

edited cos it was supposed to have a quote but cant be arsed to reply to it anymore

[Malkut]

is it just me or is the .ORG starting to look like the .COM site??

At least nobody's threatened to sue CA.

Yet.

[IRONxMortlock]

is it just me or is the .ORG starting to look like the .COM site??

Because being a member of the org requires us to mindlessly ignore and deny all discussion and description about issues with Total War games?

[AussieGiant]

No but the level of tolerance and some ability to appreciate the scope of the project would be nice.

You don't generally accomplish too much in life by simply slating people or organisations off.

[Dogfish]

No but the level of tolerance and some ability to appreciate the scope of the project would be nice.

I appreciate and like the game, and still think highly of CA. But some of these issues are facepalmers. I only hope it is the fault of Sega demanding it get out the door, because otherwise I would feel slapped in the face by CA. So I think some level of intolerance is appropriate as well.

So when we're discussing these issues, do we need to include a caveat everytime so that you feel it's more balanced?

"This game is awesome and I love CA, but I beg them to please bless us with a working game. Thank you o mighty CA pleasedonthurtme."

You don't generally accomplish too much in life by simply slating people or organisations off.

Really? Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh don't agree with you. Among many others.

[AussieGiant]

@ Dogfish,

Please don't quote Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh as something of a counter point to my comment.

I said you don't accomplish too much, not nothing...but the consequences of their behaviour are clear for most people to see. Because, even if you do agree with a point they raise, their delivery and behaviour can be so ridiculous that it put most neutrals off to a greater degree.

As to the main point:

I certain don't think we should swing to the opposite position that you quote as an example.

"This game is awesome and I love CA, but I beg them to please bless us with a working game. Thank you o mighty CA pleasedonthurtme." That was certainly not my point.

You're quite right, some things are big face slappers, but as long as CA is acknowledging things and is moving in the direction of addressing the issues, then constructive conversation to highlight and provide meaningful assistance seems like a better contribution.

[Dogfish]

@ Dogfish,

Please don't quote Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh as something of a counter point to my comment.

I said you don't accomplish too much, not nothing...but the consequences of their behaviour are clear for most people to see. Because, even if you do agree with a point they raise, their delivery and behaviour can be so ridiculous that it put most neutrals off to a greater degree.

Sorry about that... I just thought they were two really good examples of people whom are considered successful by doing nothing but panning other people and cultures. But that's really irrelevant to this thread or ETW.

As to the main point:

I certain don't think we should swing to the opposite position that you quote as an example.

"This game is awesome and I love CA, but I beg them to please bless us with a working game. Thank you o mighty CA pleasedonthurtme." That was certainly not my point.

You're quite right, some things are big face slappers, but as long as CA is acknowledging things and is moving in the direction of addressing the issues, then constructive conversation to highlight and provide meaningful assistance seems like a better contribution.

I agree, it is more constructive. To some degree, however, threads like this aren't as much about helping CA move in the right direction (they probably will not read or see this thread) as much as a little bit of venting about a game that many feel is unfinished (with other people having similar frustrations), which is at least a small part of what communities like this are about. Sharing joys, sharing pain, sharing stories.

Anyway, hopefully CA will be able to get the naval battles up to ours, and probably their own, expectations. They are but a little zygote at the moment, and need much development before they are ready for battle.

[Malkut]

I just thought they were two really good examples

I'd consider them more warnings than examples.

[Fisherking]

At Ease! Gentlemen,

No personal arguments please!

It gets emotional when things aren’t going well, I know.

Some of us take the problems with the game a bit harder than others.

CA knows there are issues and there is another patch due next week.

There may be some other things in the works on some things….

Stick to the game discussion and no personal attacks or the thread could be threatened.

Try to envision the problem and what reasonably should be done about it, and give it some thought.

Not…Its broke, fix it!

Now take a deep breath and carry on.

[NagatsukaShumi]

As I have stated before, numerous times, generally CA get stick for things which aren't necessarily CA's fault.

Publishers set deadlines which are expected to be fulfilled, CA have to get a game as playable for that date as is humanly possible, which is probably why so many patches are forthcoming at such short notice.

It is the same on every fansite for every game though in fairness, the publisher normally recieves far less flack than the developer.