The Settlement [Concluded]

**Csargo** · 03-13-2009, 20:45

I have seen the light. Vote: Ares

A rock told me too.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-13-2009, 20:48

Uh huh. Mmmkay.

Well, two murders would prove my innocence past death, and since my role is now utterly useless, get rid of me if you're so suspicious. My death saves at least one vital role from being lynched.

unvote: Abstain
vote: Pizzaguy

Not everything I do is WIFOM, gentlemen. Sometimes, throw me a bone.

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 03-13-2009, 20:51

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Uh huh. Mmmkay.

Well, two murders would prove my innocence past death, and since my role is now utterly useless, get rid of me if you're so suspicious. My death saves at least one vital role from being lynched.

unvote: Abstain
vote: Pizzaguy

Not everything I do is WIFOM, gentlemen. Sometimes, throw me a bone.

How about you chill out, read the write up again, and vote for ares since it said that he's guilty.

VV There's a role called the watcher, can pick someone to watch and then they see whoever kills that person. It's like a weak version of the detective. That's what this sounds like to me.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-13-2009, 20:55

Hmm.

Didn't even bother reading the whole thing, just checked who was dead.

unvote: myself
vote: Ares

I don't believe everything i read in the writeups, but this is convincing stuff.

**Thermal** · 03-13-2009, 20:57

???

**TinCow** · 03-13-2009, 21:07

Am I the only person here who finds it extremely convenient that we have simply been told who was guilty? Even if that was the result of a so-called "watcher," presumably the watcher would simply have that information themselves and then have to produce it to the rest of us. It seems absurdly suspicious that a completely anonymous 'stone' was left on the body to convince us all of what happened. How do we know that this stone wasn't placed there by the killer?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-13-2009, 21:11

I questioned Ares via instant messenger. He seemed more shocked and stunned that he had been exposed, and it took prodding him repeatedly before he claimed a fake role.

If he had been innocent, he would have immediately tried to convince me he was innocent, and not hesitated.

I don't think it's 100% proof he's guilty either, but questioning him in private, in real time, he basically sputtered in his defense. I think the pressure got to him and he couldn't come up with a lie fast enough.

**White_eyes:D** · 03-13-2009, 21:13

Originally Posted by Priest King Reenk Roink

They even saw who the armored man was. It was the man called Ares!

hmmm......could be false info

....but I am willing to go along with it for one round ....Vote:Ares the peasant killer

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 03-13-2009, 21:15

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I questioned Ares via instant messenger. He seemed more shocked and stunned that he had been exposed, and it took prodding him repeatedly before he claimed a fake role.

If he had been innocent, he would have immediately tried to convince me he was innocent, and not hesitated.

I don't think it's 100% proof he's guilty either, but questioning him in private, in real time, he basically sputtered in his defense. I think the pressure got to him and he couldn't come up with a lie fast enough.

Why don't you post a chat log?

**Thermal** · 03-13-2009, 21:16

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**LittleGrizzly** · 03-13-2009, 21:16

Im with TinCow... this seems way too easy... when has the host ever told us who was guilty ?

ATPG comment does make me suspect him slightly more...

He could have a pro town role he didn't want to reveal..

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-13-2009, 21:17

I am checking, but that chat log looks authentic. It's what I have so far.

Ouch, though, please spoiler it.

And by the way, this isn't an elaborate deception either. Lynch me next round. I am creative, but not this creative.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-13-2009, 21:22

Ok, that thing is a bear to read. I am reposting it in a more readable format, Ares.

One moment.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

I think that one can be read with a minimum of eye strain.

**TinCow** · 03-13-2009, 21:24

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I questioned Ares via instant messenger. He seemed more shocked and stunned that he had been exposed, and it took prodding him repeatedly before he claimed a fake role.

I see nothing in that role PM that leaps out as being fake. Why do you think it is?

**Thermal** · 03-13-2009, 21:25

it had a quote at the start to but i missed the top

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 03-13-2009, 21:26

Originally Posted by TinCow

Am I the only person here who finds it extremely convenient that we have simply been told who was guilty? Even if that was the result of a so-called "watcher," presumably the watcher would simply have that information themselves and then have to produce it to the rest of us. It seems absurdly suspicious that a completely anonymous 'stone' was left on the body to convince us all of what happened. How do we know that this stone wasn't placed there by the killer?

1) Say it was endgame, would you want ares to be one of the 3-4 living people?
2) Do you have a better day one lynch?

A watcher role is plausible, and Ares claimed to have a battle rating of 0 ever though the pm he posted says 3.

**Thermal** · 03-13-2009, 21:26

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Your mother reminds me of the most just socio-economic ideal: every worker gets a share!

Laborer inside joke

You are a Laborer

Background:

Once upon a time the gods would build buildings and plow fields for humans. Then some stupid priest king tried to kill the gods because he was upset at how he had to walk downstairs to use the bathroom in his palace. Needless to say, the gods weren't happy with this ungrateful attitude towards their architectural design and so they made humans work.

So you work. It really isn't that bad, but your lot are a bunch of lazy whiners so they always complain and are ungrateful to the benevolent bourgeois.

You make a long list of grievances, but they really are pretenses for wanting a cushy white robe job like the priests and bureaucrats have where they just look at pretty women when their bosses aren't looking.

Battle Rating:

3 – Your line of work really toughens up a man, and even though you don't have any military training or equipment, you are pretty tough to fight.

Victory Conditions:

Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)

**Thermal** · 03-13-2009, 21:28

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

A watcher role is plausible, and Ares claimed to have a battle rating of 0 ever though the pm he posted says 3.

that was sarcasm, but take it as you will

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-13-2009, 21:28

Originally Posted by TinCow

I see nothing in that role PM that leaps out as being fake. Why do you think it is?

Because it took him like 15 minutes to come up with it, and was more stunned at being exposed than adamant he was innocent, nor did he really try to convince me he was innocent.

I am listening to your playing the devil's advocate, and I am keeping an open mind. I doubt his partner would defend him so openly.

The conversation has been reposted in readable format, I think. Check my post above.

**White_eyes:D** · 03-13-2009, 21:29

Originally Posted by Ares

Company for the mentally disabled says:
no my battle ratin is 0
Company for the mentally disabled says:
rating*

why lie about his battle rating at first, if he had a average one???? Ares is also not acting like he has been framed either.....

check *Dark Vacuum* and he was screaming about his innocence

......plus *The usurpers* likely are common working men and noble men, with real roles.

**Thermal** · 03-13-2009, 21:30

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Because it took him like 15 minutes to come up with it

8 minutes by my count, And my grammar could never meet that standard but whatever you think....

**Thermal** · 03-13-2009, 21:32

Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

why lie about his battle rating at first, if he had a average one???? Ares is also not acting like he has been framed either.....

check *Dark Vacuum* and he was screaming about his innocence

......plus *The usurpers* likely are common working men and noble men, with real roles.

I've calmed down on more recent games, as to avoid getting a ban if you get my drift

**TinCow** · 03-13-2009, 21:35

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

1) Say it was endgame, would you want ares to be one of the 3-4 living people?
2) Do you have a better day one lynch?

A watcher role is plausible, and Ares claimed to have a battle rating of 0 ever though the pm he posted says 3.

1) Actually, yes, because I feel like Ares is the kind of person I would be able to sway with my arguments if I felt the need to. I don't feel particularly threatened by him as a player and I think I would stand a far better chance at spotting an irregularity in his behavior than I would in someone like you, GH, Andres, etc.

2) Yes, anyone. The way I see it, Ares has probably been framed, which means he's innocent. Thus, anyone is a better choice than Ares.

Let me ask you a question: Are you so afraid of Ares that you think we won't be able to spot his scuminess unless we lynch him right here and right now?

**GeneralHankerchief** · 03-13-2009, 21:37

You said your battle rating was zero yet in the PM it's three. What gives?

-edit- Evidence:

Originally Posted by ATPG's chatlog

Aries777777 says:
no my battle ratin is 0

Originally Posted by PM

Battle Rating:

3 – Your line of work really toughens up a man, and even though you don't have any military training or equipment, you are pretty tough to fight.

**Thermal** · 03-13-2009, 21:37

Originally Posted by TinCow

1) Actually, yes, because I feel like Ares is the kind of person I would be able to sway with my arguments if I felt the need to. I don't feel particularly threatened by him as a player and I think I would stand a far better chance at spotting an irregularity in his behavior than I would in someone like you, GH, Andres, etc.

I agree (see hes right i sway with the minority

)

@GH:

I already said, i was being sarcastic, i would have put '0' in the role pm if i forged it and was being serious, no?

**White_eyes:D** · 03-13-2009, 21:38

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

You still think your framed???

Edit:He freaks if framed for real.......you just feel the injustice coming from his words.....

but the Ares now.....far to calm..

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-13-2009, 21:39

Originally Posted by TinCow

Let me ask you a question: Are you so afraid of Ares that you think we won't be able to spot his scuminess unless we lynch him right here and right now?

Fine. I'll give him benefit of the doubt if you want. One round enough for an investigation?

If you need to axe someone, you know where to find a volunteer. But I am very unsure about his innocence and I am sure about mine.

Ares:

on your defense. It shouldn't take 8 minutes to post a role pm without altering it.

**FactionHeir** · 03-13-2009, 21:39

vote: Ares

I'm skeptical of the writeup, but lacking any better lead, I think we go with it.

Any thoughts about the first kill btw? Seemed to be a smoker or somesuch.

**Thermal** · 03-13-2009, 21:40

Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

You still think your framed???

yup, the evidence wasnt as strong as it is on this game, this is a statement, dark vaccum was questionable, and what makes you think my behavior is so predictable?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 03-13-2009, 21:41

unvote: Ares
vote: askthepizzaguy

TinCow, if you want a benefit of the doubt on him for a round, you basically have to vote for me instead. The bandwagon will be so large that you don't really need my vote anyway.

Edit: alternatively, we could lynch him and investigate him tonight. Seems to be safer than letting him kill again.

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