The fight for Inishmore [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

Has boudica ever come under early-game pressure before, and if so, in what game?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I can check. I am familiar with most of the games she's been in.

Oh, duh... Psycho mafia. My own game. She was lynched round one and had a role.

[Thermal]

CountArach walked in to Mcdoogals and ordered a pint of ale. Brendan was there and he turned to Countarach and said good day. Countarach turned to him and said arent you the guy that has been killing people in this bar? Brendan said yes I am but I have a reason. I fight for Ireland do you? Countarach said yes but not like a terrorist. He grabbed a wiskey bottle and hit Brendan in the face with it. This knocked out Brendans tooth. But Brendan took out a gun and shot him dead right there at Mcdoogals. Then he stood over Countarach and said this is a shame I need fighters like you to join the cause. Brendan left a card and it said Two Blind Mice.

Alexander the Pretty Good left the pub drunk to the gills and headed for home, quickly leaving the hustle and bustle of main street behind him. He gradually ascended for half a mile, and then found himself at the top of a considerable eminence, where the wood ceased, and the eye was instantly caught by his house, situated on the opposite side of a valley, into which the road, with some abruptness, wound. It was a large, handsome, stone building, standing well on rising ground, and backed by a ridge of high woody hills;—and in front, a stream of some natural importance was swelled into greater, but without any artificial appearance. Its banks were neither formal, nor falsely adorned.

He descended the hill, crossed the bridge, went through the front door, and entered the dining-parlour. It was a large, well-proportioned room, handsomely fitted up. Alexander, after slightly surveying it, went to a window to enjoy its prospect. The hill, crowned with wood, from which he had descended, receiving increased abruptness from the distance, was a beautiful object. Every disposition of the ground was good; and he looked on the whole scene—the river, the trees scattered on its banks, and the winding of the valley, as far as he could trace it—with the pride of ownership.

Across the valley, a considerably more sober Oswald took in the same view Alexander had enjoyed earlier. He so admired the general stonework of the house that he took a closer look through the scope of his rifle, and in doing so just happened to catch sight of the man standing at the window, smugly surveying his property. With a gentle squeeze of the trigger, all that was left of Alexander's head was a Pretty Good mess on the floor.


Write up

'Two Blind Mice'

Suggests theres two people working together, and that were blind to who they are? Well I have some thoughts.


'road' 'bridge' 'stream' 'stonework' indicates grey, greyblades? Greyblades and Faction Heir voted in sync for the first two days, both of there votes late on the bandwagon and resulted in that persons death, it'll do for me.


vote: Greyblades

[Askthepizzaguy]

'road' 'bridge' 'stream' 'stonework' indicates grey, greyblades? Greyblades and Faction Heir voted in sync for the first two days, both of there votes late on the bandwagon and resulted in that persons death, it'll do for me.

That is some pretty bizarre reasoning, there Ares.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Alexander was a famous greek, almost a god to them...maybe the hint those awfully considerate mafia intended was for us to look for someone else who was a greek god?

[Yoyoma1910]

*blip*



Reposting

[FactionHeir]

Alexander was a famous greek, almost a god to them...maybe the hint those awfully considerate mafia intended was for us to look for someone else who was a greek god?

[Yoyoma1910]

vote:'Khaan


Earth tones bleeding into High Chroma?!?! That's is so Mafia pallet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I believe this is the correct tally, but I am not sure.

Askthepizzaguy: 3 (boudica, Reenk, shlin28)
boudica: 3 (LittleGrizzly, Sasaki, Lord Winter)
Seamus: 2 (Ituralde, YLC)
Ituralde: 1 (ATPG)
Sasaki: 1 (Seireikhaan)
Seireikhaan: 1 (yoyoma1910)
Greyblades: 1 (Ares)

[GeneralHankerchief]

I can check. I am familiar with most of the games she's been in.

Oh, duh... Psycho mafia. My own game. She was lynched round one and had a role.

That was painful to read.

Vote: Ares

Reaching.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy: 3 (boudica, Reenk, shlin28)
boudica: 3 (LittleGrizzly, Sasaki, Lord Winter)
Seamus: 2 (Ituralde, YLC)
Ituralde: 1 (ATPG)
Sasaki: 1 (Seireikhaan)
Seireikhaan: 1 (yoyoma1910)
Greyblades: 1 (Ares)
Ares: 1 (GH)

Ok well I think it is clear now that boudica doesn't have a role, or the odds are that she does not.

1. Her original reason for voting for me was found to be completely wrong, I did offer myself on the first round.
2. She kept her vote on me, even though her reasoning was wrong.
3. Now she is tied with me and a likely candidate to be lynched, and she's still not budging.

If she had a pro-town or even a mafia role, she would have changed her vote by now, I'd suspect. I believe there are better candidates to vote for this round. Like Ituralde, who voted for Seamus to get him to reveal his role even though it is CLEAR from the writeups he's not the one murdering people. Or Ares or Greyblades. Plenty of candidates to choose from. And lookie right at the top of the list: It's your old pal Askthepizzaguy. If you are going to lynch me, do it sooner rather than later, as I said.

Methinks boudica should be spared this round, and a better suspect get votes. And if you think this is WIFOM; go ahead and lynch boudica. I'll bet my head next round that she's innocent.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I hadn't seen that yet. THANKS for the chuckle.

[ULC]

That was painful to read.

Vote: Ares

Reaching.

For?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Check ATPG's post 634.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Ok well I think it is clear now that boudica doesn't have a role, or the odds are that she does not.

1. Her original reason for voting for me was found to be completely wrong, I did offer myself on the first round.
2. She kept her vote on me, even though her reasoning was wrong.
3. Now she is tied with me and a likely candidate to be lynched, and she's still not budging.

If she had a pro-town or even a mafia role, she would have changed her vote by now, I'd suspect. I believe there are better candidates to vote for this round. Like Ituralde, who voted for Seamus to get him to reveal his role even though it is CLEAR from the writeups he's not the one murdering people. Or Ares or Greyblades. Plenty of candidates to choose from. And lookie right at the top of the list: It's your old pal Askthepizzaguy. If you are going to lynch me, do it sooner rather than later, as I said.

Methinks boudica should be spared this round, and a better suspect get votes. And if you think this is WIFOM; go ahead and lynch boudica. I'll bet my head next round that she's innocent.

There is literally nothing in this post that makes any sense. You didn't even check when the last time boudica was online. I did it for you: 8:53.

[Askthepizzaguy]

She was still under pressure at the time and didn't back off her position.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Ok well I think it is clear now that boudica doesn't have a role, or the odds are that she does not.

1. Her original reason for voting for me was found to be completely wrong, I did offer myself on the first round.
2. She kept her vote on me, even though her reasoning was wrong.
3. Now she is tied with me and a likely candidate to be lynched, and she's still not budging.

If she had a pro-town or even a mafia role, she would have changed her vote by now, I'd suspect. I believe there are better candidates to vote for this round. Like Ituralde, who voted for Seamus to get him to reveal his role even though it is CLEAR from the writeups he's not the one murdering people. Or Ares or Greyblades. Plenty of candidates to choose from. And lookie right at the top of the list: It's your old pal Askthepizzaguy. If you are going to lynch me, do it sooner rather than later, as I said.

Methinks boudica should be spared this round, and a better suspect get votes. And if you think this is WIFOM; go ahead and lynch boudica. I'll bet my head next round that she's innocent.

I don't believe that either of you will be lynched.


Ares: Was ist dis? It's been noted openly in the thread that the mafia get to turn in the first draft on their kills and that pever' is only changing things as needed to fit the narrative or the results of other role night actions. So the only way your idea works is if the opposing mafia KNEW the names of the other mafia prior to the start of play and were dropping cryptic hints about their opposition so as to get them lynched and thereby save kills. Your argument scores very high up on the improbability meter. Or are you simply fascinated with your own writing....

Vote: Ares

[Greyblades]

Hmm should I revenge vote or should I just abstain...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Hmm should I revenge vote or should I just abstain...

Perhaps a Tribesman-style rejoinder?

[Greyblades]

Que? Im sorry but what do you mean by Tribesman-style rejoinder?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

She was still under pressure at the time and didn't back off her position.

See this is the problem with your play in mafia games. Making careless assumptions and arguments is only half of it, when someone criticizes your argument you don't reconsider, you make great leaps in logic in order to keep your original assumption, even if it requires you to contradict something you said 5 minutes ago. Unless several people criticize your argument in which case you vote yourself and make a lengthy post about how you are in "lurker" mode and that you should just be lynched and start putting everything you say in spoilers.

Just honestly reconsider, and be more careful in the first place.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Que? Im sorry but what do you mean by Tribesman-style rejoinder?

"Tribesman-style" means voting for boudica. Tribesman hates boudica for some reason.

[Greyblades]

... nah im not in the mood for that sort of thing.
Vote: Ares Petty revenge is a better excuse than because-a-guy-told-me-so.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You say that nothing I said makes sense, Sasaki?

Seamus is an admitted role; Donney. Donney isn't the one going around killing people, I don't think. And if we did determine that he were a henchman or a Godfather he is as good as dead whenever we please anyway. If he has no permanent protection, and he's pro-town, the mafia will at least attempt to take him out at some point. There is much value in keeping him alive. But Ituralde is voting for him instead of better suspects, just so Ituralde can know what his role is. Pressuring Seamus with votes to get him to confess the full abilities of his role... seems like a waste of votes to me. And in the meantime, the mafia roam free. So why does that not make sense that Ituralde is a better lynch than boudica, especially since, given your own argument, she's voting for me, and I'm one of your top suspects and you wanted me dead round one. Now, with the vote tied, you're not voting for me. Why the sudden change? That's not consistent behavior for you. If you think I am a top suspect, then why aren't you voting for me? That looks scummy to me. You have a chance to off me now, and you're not taking it?



Then Ares votes with reasoning that would curl your hair, and you don't flinch. And what of all these lurkers that we're supposed to be making sure are dead early every game? Not following through on any of it. I don't think you're townie, Sasaki.

I think Seireikhaan may be onto something after all. Vote for me if you think I am scum, because I am now voting for you for not acting like a proper townie.

unvote: Ituralde
vote: Sasaki

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Swear to me you wrote that before seeing my post where I talked about how overdefensive you are of any criticism of your arguments...

edit:

Ok, I don't want to turn this into another pizza vs sasak argument. Just two points. Pizza, you work very hard at finding mafia but your biggest pitfall is what I described. In the GF3, I criticized your arguments in the exact same way, and you cam up with an elaborate theory about mafia recruitment in order to fit me in as a mafioso. You have to be able to thoughtfully reconsider your posts in order to be successful at finding mafia because we all make mistakes.

Second,

And if you think this is WIFOM; go ahead and lynch boudica. I'll bet my head next round that she's innocent.

Think about this. Instead of dealing with the potential criticism that the argument is wifom, you go for an "agree with me or lynch me" approach.

[El Diablo]

Vote Greyblades - for tickling my spider senses.

I am suspicious of ATPG as well but will keep an eye on him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Swear to me you wrote that before seeing my post where I talked about how overdefensive you are of any criticism of your arguments...

I did, I think.

But the argument is the same. You keep saying we should have lynched me, and here's your chance, and you're sticking with boudica. That's the disconnect. Explain why I am both a suspect, and also, someone you wouldn't lynch at the drop of a hat.

I'm not trying to start a war, Sasaki; just explain to me your reasoning. I don't get it.

[ULC]

List of most highly suspected by general consensus
Sasaki
AskthePizzaGuy
Seamus
Boudica
Ituralde

I'll "try" (depends on how forgiving the librarians are) to post the general reasons why each is highly suspected and why they should be lynched/ignored.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy: 3 (boudica, Reenk, shlin28)
boudica: 3 (LittleGrizzly, Sasaki, Lord Winter)
Ares: 3 (GH, Seamus, Greyblades)
Seamus: 2 (Ituralde, YLC)
Sasaki: 2 (Seireikhaan, ATPG)
Greyblades: 2 (Ares, El Diablo)
Seireikhaan: 1 (yoyoma1910)

The tally has certainly changed from a few minutes ago. Can someone recheck please? I grow weary of asking. I won't do the tallies by myself, and I have been known to mess them up.

[LittleGrizzly]

I think ATPG is the worst lynch out of the 3.... maybe someone should move thier vote...