Possible LotR Successor Game discussion thread

**Zim** · 04-02-2009, 01:27

There were a few players that rather disliked the gold chevroned stacks.

Making some balanced stacks for them from time to time would be easy enough if people didn't mind the heavy gm intervention. Heck, with the hotseat function I or someone else could even "play" an ai faction a couple turns to help them get their act together.

**ULC** · 04-02-2009, 01:39

I don't really remember needing the Hotseat function for that, correct me if I am wrong? Maybe I am too used to the console...

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 04-02-2009, 08:42

Originally Posted by Zim

There were a few players that rather disliked the gold chevroned stacks.

Making some balanced stacks for them from time to time would be easy enough if people didn't mind the heavy gm intervention. Heck, with the hotseat function I or someone else could even "play" an ai faction a couple turns to help them get their act together.

This might not be that good idea. I've heard and seen it myself that after you have taken over a faction and played it for couple of turns it will start making some really stupid things if they do anything at all. It lasts about 2-4 turns and after that AI is capable doing it's own decisions again.
Perhaps I'm wrong but Egyptian AI in LotR, after TinCow took control over it, had the same problem. But don't take my word on it.

**_Tristan_** · 04-02-2009, 11:24

Originally Posted by Zim

There were a few players that rather disliked the gold chevroned stacks.

Yes and I was among them... Those stacks were a nightmare but they provided something which we often lack : CHALLENGE...

So they may have been a bit over the top but giving the AI a chance by building stacks that have some viability or by garrisoning its cities with more than two units of peasants might be enough to provide some much sought-after challenge...

Enough so, I hope, that it would force the players to cooperate (up to a point) for any warlike endeavour..

**Ignoramus** · 04-02-2009, 11:25

Maybe we could have a person do the AI recruitment and construction? At least for neighbouring factions.

**Cecil XIX** · 04-02-2009, 20:00

Originally Posted by Zim

There were a few players that rather disliked the gold chevroned stacks.

Indeed. I suppose I could handle building the AI's stacks for it, or giving whatever units the AI builds EXP bonuses, but I can't stand a situation like what happened at the end of KotR.

It's nice to have a challenge, but if the AI can just spam armies against you regardless of whether or not you're fighting or winning then every battle is a “Why the *#%! did we just fight this?” battle.

**_Tristan_** · 04-03-2009, 08:16

The thing is mainly that we'll have to find a balance between fair competition with the AI by giving it balanced stacks and keeping players off by spawning unbeatable stacks of doom...

I think we're all experienced enough players of M2TW to know which is which and go from there...

**Zim** · 06-12-2009, 21:18

Now that I have a reliable internet connection again there's some chance of reviving this idea. Are people still interested?

**TheFlax** · 06-12-2009, 21:20

I still am. :)

**Cultured Drizzt fan** · 06-12-2009, 21:34

depending on what mods you guys used I would probably join.

**Zim** · 06-12-2009, 21:42

At the moment a mod for vanilla MTW2 seems most likely, although I'll probably put it up to a vote again. Personally Broken Crescent is my favorite, but it always seems hard to get people to play a mod that's pretty much entirely outside of Europe.