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    The Vergina Sun - An EB Makedonian PBM Game

    Cheers. This is the official thread of TVS (The Vergina Sun), a Makedonian PBM Game that will start soon. Here you will be able to view the details of the game, the available characters in the beginning, as well as the rules that will be followed.

    There will be other threads created for the purpose of efficient organization of the game. In the beginning, we will post savegames here and each will take his own to make his moves. The Synedrion (Council), will have it's own thread created as soon as we begin.

    Anyone interested to join or has any questions, feel free to ask/pm me, or just post here. I will serve as the Game Master, with Emperor of Graal serving as the Game Coordinator.

    Disclaimer: The game will feature some historical aspects of the Makedonian socio-political system, like the function of the Synedrion. I suggest all interested players have a look here and read some about Makedonian political organization, as well as something about their history in general.



    «…ΜΗΔΕN ΕΩΡΑΚΕΝΑΙ ΦΟΒΕΡΩΤΕΡΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΔΕΙΝΟΤΕΡΟΝ ΦΑΛΑΓΓΟΣ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗΣ…»
    «…Never before have I seen anything more fearsome and terrible than the Macedonian phalanx…»

    Aemilius Paulus, the victor of the battle of Pydna, as quoted by Polybius.

    Makedonia, a land of contradictions. A land that gave birth to the most powerful man that ever walked the earth, the son of Ammon Zeus, the son of Thunder, Megas Alexandros. A land that shook the very roots of the world when her armies made every stone and soul tremble, while brought the lights of Hellenic education and architecture to the furthest corners of the world. A land that suffered much and endured much more.

    A land that is now threatened to collapse.

    When the Empire of Megas Alexandros shattered upon his death and fell to the greedy hands of his most trusted men, the Diadochoi, as well as amoral opportunists, Makedonia fell to the hands of Antipatros, who founded the Dynasteia Antipatridon (Antipatrid Dynasty). The rule shifted after a civil war to the hands of Demetrios “Poliorketes”, who ruled for a while, but again Makedonia fell into civil strife.

    If that was not enough, tribes from Gallia (Gaul) had taken up arms and where raping Hellenic soil without any remorse for their barbarous deeds. Ultimately though, Demetrios’ son, Antigonos “Gonatas” defeated a large barbarian invasion and regained his family’s position in Makedonia.

    Now Makedonia faces, yet again, another threat, this time from a nation that has long been allies of the Makedones; the people of Epeiros. Under leadership of the feared Pyrrhos Aiakides (Pyrrhus of Epirus), the Epeirotai have abandoned their claims in Megale Hellas (Italy) and have turned their greedy eyes towards Makedonia. At the same time, the southern Hellenic poleis of Athenai, Sparte and the island of Rhodos, have formed an anti-Makedonian alliance and are ready to take up arms against the rightful rulers of Hellas.

    Which brings us to our current position; a tiny and exhausted from the many civil strifes, raids and migration to the East Makedonia, threatened to the West by Pyrrhos and his elephantes, South by the Koinon Hellenon (the Hellenic alliance under Chremonides), while always having the fear of yet another invasion of barbaroi from the north.

    The population of Makedonia is depleted, her coffers bleeding badly, the people discontent and afraid. One wrong move, and the Basileion (Kingdom) will crumble. All that Alexandros fought for, will be for naught if his homeland falls to the hands of Pretenders and Barbaroi.

    It is your job now to command the leading men of Makedonia and save her from destruction. From the Synedrion (Council), you will have the ability of deciding the Basileion’s future moves and it will be up to you to make sure Makedonia will be successful once again. The goal of this game is simple; take control of Makedonia’s characters and, through war and diplomacy, let your deeds shine forever. Become the next man that will earn the title “Megas” and will write his own undying history.


    Game attributes and Rules
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    1.1 Game Settings:

    RTW with the 1.5 patch
    Europa Barbarorum v1.2 and fixes
    Force Diplomacy Minimod
    Hard Campaign, Medium Battles
    Large Unit Size
    Show CPU Moves Off
    Battle Timer Off
    Manage All Settlements

    1.2 Avatar

    Each player will role-play either a General, Governor or Councillor of Makedonia. Upon joining the game, each player will choose an avatar to represent this character. Avatars can be ‘Family Members (FMs)’ or ‘Recruitable Generals (RGs)’.
    Players are reminded that due to limitations imposed by RTW, only avatars on the family tree will be able to marry, have children, and have a chance of becoming Kleronomos (Heir) or Basileus (King).

    1.2a Avatar Adoption

    No ‘Man Of Great Potential’ offers at the start of the turn will be accepted, since it would have to be discussed by the community of players, which is almost impossible, since that could take a considerable amount of time.

    1.3 Battles


    A player whose avatar leads an army that is involved in a battle will be expected to fight that battle. This will involve downloading the savegame of the battle, playing it and then uploading the resulting savegame.

    Uploading the post-battle save must be done as soon as the battle is fought, regardless of the outcome.

    If a player cannot fight a battle that is assigned to them, the battle may also be fought by any player whose avatar will also be present in the battle, be he part of the army from the start, or after moving to the army after discussion. Under no circumstances will a battle be fought by a player whose avatar is not present in the battle.

    If there is no player available to fight a battle, it must be auto-resolved. If there are no allocated avatars involved in the battle at all, it must be auto-resolved.

    1.4 Game Management

    Turns are ended by the Basileus, who posts every new savegame with a report of the duties that have to be attended by players in the new turn.

    After the seasonal report is posted, players will have to download the save, and make their personal moves.

    Players can move their avatars, move any army their avatar commands and fight any battles against the AI that they are capable of fighting with their avatar’s army.

    The Basileus may move any avatar or army that has not been moved in this way as he best sees fit, including moves that result in battles, except that he cannot move a player’s avatar, units in their nearby territory, or units under a player's control in any manner that player has expressly prohibited.

    Players may not move avatars or armies into the territory of a neutral or allied faction without pre-discussion from the Synedrion. Nor may they attack the settlements or armies of neutral or allied factions without a declaration of war after discussion in the Synedrion and formal declaration by the Basileus.

    All players are obliged to take part in every Synedrion, especially those who control characters that are directly related to the game itself (Governors, Generals).

    1.5 Events

    Whenever they desire, Maion Maroneios, Emperor of Graal or anyone they choose may create an in-game Event.

    Events are not limited in scope, subject matter, or method of implementation.

    All game rules can be violated to implement an Event. The players can prevent the implementation of any single Event through a simple majority of unweighted votes (non-Council voting).

    1.6 - Game Master/Coordinator

    Maion Maroneios will serve as Game Master and is responsible for management of the game and enforcement of the Game Rules. Maion Maroneios can delegate any of his powers to another person whenever he chooses. Emperor of Graal serves as the Coordinator of the game as well as enforcer of the Game Rules, and may serve as the Game Master on case of Maion Maroneios’ absense. He, as well, has the power to bestow his powers upon any person he desires.

    2. Rank System


    2.1 Gaining and Losing Provinces

    All settlements of the Kingdom belong to the Basileus.

    Merides (Provinces) can be given to any player by the Basileus during a Synedrion, after approval of the Synedroi through voting.

    The Basileus can take away the Merida from the player only if 2/3 of the Synedrion votes positively.

    2.2 Retinue

    At any time, a player may give any retinue item/member they possess to another player or remove it from their avatar without giving it to anyone else.

    If a retinue item/member cannot be transferred or removed due to game coding or distance between avatars, console commands may be used to allow the transfer or removal.

    2.3 Ranks

    Strategos (General)
    Requirements: Title given by the Basileus directly
    Description: When the Basileus sees fit to give a FM the title of Strategos, the Game Master or Coordinator (or anyone they chose) will use a console command to give the “Strategos” trait to the FM. A Strategos is given control of a specific army and must get permission by the Basileus (through Player contact) for any action he wishes to make (attacking, recruiting more units/mercenaries etc).

    Strategos Autokrator (General Who Bears All Power)
    Requirements: Title given by the Basileus directly, after the Synedrion’s approval
    Description: When the Basileus sees fit to give a FM the title of Strategos Autokrator, he presents the option as an Edict in the following Synedrion. If the candidate gets half plus one votes (at least), he gets the title. In order to get his title stripped off, the Synedroi have to vote for that by 2/3 of the whole Council body. The Strategos Autokrator can use any army he desires (with the exception of Royal Squadron Units) and can only act according to a pre-discussed general plan. So if the Synedrion has voted against aggressiveness towards a certain faction, the Player cannot attack them without facing consequences. Only one Strategos Autokrator can exist at a time and his main role is to assist the Basileus in the commanding of armies, especially when the fronts are multiple the Basileus cannot handle the pressure.

    Demarchos (lvl1 Governor)
    Requirements: Title given by the Basileus, after approval of the Synedrion
    Description: When city has a lvl1 Government type installed (Patris Makedonike), the Basileus, after the Synedrion’s approval, can give governship of the city to a Player. The Player then has the responsibility of the well-being of the city. He can set taxes to any amount he desires (though the Basilikos Grammateus can, after supervision, set limits to that) except Very High taxes. Building projects and unit training must first get approval by the Basileus, who gives the Basilikos Grammateus the responsibility of making the decision.

    Satrapes (lvl2 Governor)
    Requirements: Title given by the Basileus, after approval of the Synedrion
    Description: When city has a lvl2 Government type installed (Satrapeia Makedonike), the Basileus, after the Synedrion’s approval, can give governship of the city to a Player. The Player then has the responsibility of the well-being of the city. He can set taxes to any amount he desires (though the Basilikos Grammateus can, after supervision, set limits to that) except Very High taxes. Building projects and unit training must first get approval by the Basileus, who gives the Basilikos Grammateus the responsibility of making the decision.

    Dioiketes (lvl3 Governor)
    Requirements: Title given by the Basileus directly
    Description: When city has a lvl3 Government type installed (Nomos Symmachos Emphrouros), the Basileus, after the Synedrion’s approval, can give governship of the city to a Player. The Player then has the responsibility of the well-being of the city. He can set taxes to any amount he desires (though the Basilikos Grammateus can, after supervision, set limits to that) except Very High taxes. Building projects and unit training must first get approval by the Basileus, who gives the Basilikos Grammateus the responsibility of making the decision.

    Kleronomos Basileiou (Heir of the Kingdom)
    Requirements: Must be the in-game Faction Heir
    Description: The Kleronomos is, by default, the eldest son of the current Basileus. The latter can change that at any point in the game and for any reason he deems fit. Upon death of a Basileus, the last person he has set as Heir will be presented as a candidate for the throne. Any other person who wishes to become a candidate can also present himself to the Synedrion. The Synedroi then go through a voting procejure of giving their “vote of trust” to the FM they believe should be the next Basileus. If someone wishes to be a Basileus, he must get the most votes by the Synedrion. If the voting results in a tie, another voting procejures undergoes. If the same result is presented again, the person who has the Basileus’ highest favour is crowned. The Kleronomos has also command of a Royal Army and only he has the ability of controling it.

    Basileus (King)
    Requirements: Must be the in-game Faction Leader
    Description: The Basileus has three main attributes that define him: Commander of all Armies, Head of Diplomacy and Head of Religion. His powers, though, are limited by the existence of the Synedrion. The Synedrion is the force that has to approve any major decisions made by the Basileus (treaty conduction, war declaration, military campaign, land/naval invasion). The only powers the Basileus can exert without consulting the Synedrion first are: giving the title of Strategos to any he wishes, absolute control over his Royal Army, declaration of the Kingdom’s Heir. Upon the Basileus’ enthronement, he must immediately set a Player to be his Basilikos Grammateus and can change him whenever he wants. All settlements and armies belong to the Basileus, while all incomes by means of sea trade and mines belong to the Basileus and only him.

    Basilikos Grammateus (Royal Secretarian)
    Requirements: Title given by the Basileus directly after his enthronement
    Description: The Basilikos Grammateus is a person of very high importance in the Kingdom. He is chosen by the Basileus directly and is tasked with helping the Basileus in the administration of the Kingdom. He is also the Head of Economy, which means that he is responsible of setting taxes, calculating army costs and applying the corresponding restrictions and taking loans.

    3. Government


    3.1 Sessions

    The Synedrion, or Council, is the main political body of Makedonia along with the Basileus. The Synedrion hold one session every Winter, when the military season is over, once per year. The Basileus is the one who formally declares the beginning of each Synedrion, and is the one who can call upon an Emergency Council at any time he sees fit.

    3.2 Proposing Legislations

    During each session, Players may propose a number of Edicts and Amendments, that will be debated for their correctness and later voted upon. That is done by seconding an Edict, which is in turn done formally during each session by a Synedros (in-character).

    The Basileus is the only one who can propose any number of Edicts or Amandments without the need to be seconded.

    3.3 Edicts

    Edicts require a simple majority of votes to pass and remain in effect until the next normal session of the Synedrion. Edicts discussed in the Synedrion don't have to be seconded, though the process exists typically.

    Tied Edicts fail. If contradictory Edicts are passed, the one with the most votes takes priority.

    3.5 War

    Any declaration of war must be authorized by an Edict, which means having the majority of votes by the Synedrion, then formally declared by the Basileus.

    4. Armies


    4.1 Basilikos Stratos (Royal Army)

    Royal Armies are, by default, 2 armies (in total) that are controlled by the Basileus and Kleronomos respectively. It’s constitution may be changed at will by the owner at any time. Royal Armies are the only armies that have the privilege of being able to consist of Royal Squadron Units (Peltastai Makedonikoi, Hypaspistai, Hetairoi, Argyraspides), unless given to a Strategos by the owner. The raising of a new Royal Army must be authorised by an Edict.

    4.2 Stratos (Regular Army)

    Regular Armies are recruited for several purposes: a military campaign, protection of a certain city or region etc. and are authorised by an Edict. When a Regular Army is recruited, it is given a ‘name label’, which tells exactly where the army was raised. For example, an army raised in the region of Lakonike (near Sparta), it will be labeled “Stratos A Lakedaimonikos”, the A being the number 1 in Greek (the number of armies recruited in the region), while the Lakedaimonikos part meaning ‘Lacaedemonian’. This information, should be used to inform someone of the details of an army. So for someone who never heard of that army, he would know that it is the 1st (hence the A) army that was raised in the region of Lakonia (hence the Lakedaimonikos part). Their constitution varies according to it’s assigned Strategos’ personal tatse.

    4.3 Stratos Symmachos (Allied Army)

    An Allied Army, as it’s name implies, is an army that consists of troops that belong to Makedonia’s allied states. This meaning, they can only constitute of local troops,raised in cities with a lvl3 or lvl4 government type. Their role can be that of protection of an allied region, or aggressive by assisting a leading army during a military campaign. The raising of an allied army must be authorised by an Edict.

    4.3 Army Replenishment

    If an army becomes under-strength for any reason (long siege, continuous combat), the Startegos assigned to the army can replenish it by getting the Basileus’ approval. Royal Armies can be replenished by will of their owners.

    5. Civil War


    5.1 Declaration of War

    Civil War can be started by any Player. The Player must make a Declaration of War towards a specific number of characters or the Basileus himself in a public thread before they can attack any of their armies or settlements. A Declaration of War applies to all Players who are named as Aids of both the Player who makes the Declaration and the Player who is the target of the Declaration.

    A Declaration of War does not apply to any Players who are not in any way connected to the declarer or the target.

    Neither the Player who made the Declaration of War, nor anyone who act as an Aid of that Player, can attack the target of that Declaration, or anyone who act as an Aid of that Player, until the target(s) have been provided with one full turn's worth of movement.

    This rule does not limit movement in any way, nor does it prevent the target(s) of the Declaration of War from attacking the declarer(s).

    5.2 Ending a Civil War

    A Civil War will end when all Generals on one side are dead or all living Generals on both sides publicly agree to a Peace Treaty.

    So long as it is limited to changes to the provinces, settlements, armies, and retinue of the Generals signing the Peace Treaty, it will be considered binding law. All terms of a Peace Treaty that go beyond these limits, particularly those that increase a General’s influence or powers beyond those allowed by the rules, will only be binding if adopted by a two-thirds majority of the Synedrion at the next normal session.

    Individual Generals may unilaterally remove themselves from a Civil War within one turn of the Declaration of War and by publicly declaring Neutrality. Neutrality cannot be claimed by a declarer, a target, or any General who has been involved in a PvP Battle during that specific Civil War.

    5.3 PvP Battles

    Whenever two hostile armies enter adjacent squares, a PvP Battle will occur, even if the armies have movement points remaining. The style of the battle fought will be decided between the two participants.

    The umpire will determine the map and the precise composition of the armies. If the battle is not fought via multiplayer, there will be a voting period to determine how the battle will be fought. The options are (a) Multiplayer Battle (b) Custom AI Battle

    Multiplayer battles will be fought on-line between the two participants, with pre-discussed armies with corresponding levels of experience and weapon/arour upgrades. Maion Maroneios, Emperor of Graal or anyone they chose will act as judges of the battle. This means that, at least one of the players has to save the battle and post it on a public thread of the game. Unit casualties and the disbanding of units to represent the results of a battle, as well as any character deaths, will be decided by Maion Maroneios, Emperor of Graal, or anyone they decide.

    Custom AI Battles will be battles fought between 2 AI-controlled armies. As above, the composition and attributes of the battle will be pre-discussed and the battle will be initialised by either Maion Maroneios, Emperor of Graal, or anyone they chose. The replay will be saved and posted at a public thread of the game, along with the corresponding in-game effects.

    Regardless of the type of battle chosen, the umpire must attempt to have the battle replicate the in-game state of affairs to the best of his ability. Regardless of the type of battle chosen, the umpire will determine the results, including, but not limited to, units to be disbanded as casualties, avatars to be killed off as casualties, and changes in the control of provinces. Console commands may be used to implement the results.

    6. Going Against the Law


    When a certain character takes an action that is against a rule or decision made by the Synedrion, he is taken before the whole body which will act as a court and will judge his actions. A punishment is then decided, which will be take the form of Edicts and voted upon by the Synedroi.

    Punishments can take many forms, according to the weight of his actions.
    1) Economic fine. A Player has to pay a sum of mnai according to the decision of the Synedrion
    2) Supervision by a trusted FM. The Player has to follow his supervisor for a certain amount of time that is decided by the Synedrion.
    3) Loss of rank. A Player will lose a rank he has gained, be that leader of an army or governor of a city.
    4) Banishment from the Kingdom. The Player will be sent to a far part of the Kingdom, where the Player’s avatar will remain inside a fort and will not be able to move for a certain amount of time that is decided by the Synedrion.
    5) The Death Penalty. Upon extreme occassions, like a big economic scandal or assassination of an important person of the Kingdom, a Player can be given the Death Penalty. The Player’s avatar will then be killed through console command by the Game Master, Coordninator or any person they decide.
    6) Any number of combinations of the above, excluding 5 for obvious reasons.

    If a Player does not agree to present himself to the Synedrion in Pella for to be judged, the Basileus will be declared an outlaw. He may then decide to flee or surrender at any point, though his penalties upon capture will be heavier. Players loyal to the Basileus will also be assigned of junting down and bringing the outlaw to the Synedrion alive.

    7. Teleportation


    The “move_character” console command can and will be used when needed for character movement. When a character has to go to a specific city as soon as possible (without an army), but movement points do not suffice, he will be teleported by Maion Maroneios, Emperor of Graal, or anyone else they chose. This is mainly to represent the fact that moving from one point of Hellas to the other (for example), would take much less than even 1 turn (3 months), especially for one persononly.

    Teleportations will only occur for very specific reasons and will only be done by the aforementioned persons and none other by any means.

    8. Personal Fortunes and Loans
    :

    Each Player, either a Synedros, Strategos or Governor of any type, gets a seasonal amount of mnai, according to his position. The amount of mnai is completely personal and may be used in any means, excluding the recruitment of units. The salaries of each players according to their ranks are as follows:

    1) General/Governor --> 500mnai ps
    2) Leader of the Royal Navy --> 400mnai ps
    3) Head of Intelligence --> 200mnai ps
    4) Head of Diplomatic Corps --> 100mnai ps

    ps=Per Season

    Players with a combination of ranks get the corresponding sum of mnai per season.

    When the Kingdom has the need of mnai, the Basilikos Grammateus can ask Players for loans. Details will de determined between the two Players.


    The characters


    Alkyoneus Argeades (chosen by mini)

    Position: Governor of Pella
    Location: Pella, Makedonia
    Relation to the Basileus: Eldest son
    Age: 20

    Kalos Argeades (chosen by everyone)

    Position: Governor of Demetrias
    Location: Demetrias, Thessalia
    Relation to the Basileus: Nepphiew
    Age: 20

    Antigonos Argeades (chosen by The Celtic Viking)

    Position: Basileus
    Location: Attike
    Titles and Nicknames: Gonatas
    Age: 48

    Krateros Argeades (chosen by johnhughthom)

    Position: Governor of Korinthos, Kleronomos (Heir)
    Location: Achaia
    Relation to the Basileus: Eldest brother
    Age: 52

    Alexandros Argeades (chosen by _Bean_)

    Position: -
    Location: Korinthos, Achaia
    Relation to the Basileus: Nepphiew
    Age: 20

    Secondary characters


    Alkaios (chosen by Iskander 3.1)

    Position: Archon Basilikou Stolou (Leader of the Royal Fleet)
    Location: The Aigaion, near Amphipolis
    Age: 20

    Antipatros Lamiakos (chosen by Hotseat_User)

    Position: Archikataskopos (Chief Spy)
    Location: Mysia
    Age: 20

    Karpos Aiginios (chosen by JbG)

    Position: Archiproxenos (Chief Ambassador)
    Location: Makedonia
    Age: 20

    Merides (Regional Districts)


    Makedonia
    Capital: Pella

    Thessalia
    Capital: Demetrias

    Euboia
    Capital: Chalkis

    Achaia
    Capital: Korinthos

    Lesbos
    Capital: Mytilene

    Subscribed players:
    _Bean_
    Tolg
    everyone
    Decimus
    mini
    Βελισάριος
    Lucio Domicio Auleriano
    Skullheadhq
    HunGeneral
    Emperor of Graal=
    Iskander 3.1
    Jolt
    Africanvs
    satalexton
    The Celtic Viking
    A Very Super Market
    johnhughthom
    JbG


    Maion Maroneios
    Last edited by Maion Maroneios; 04-24-2009 at 11:09.
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    Could you post screens of the choseable chars, and also define who gets first pick etc?

    since there are only a few choseable chars and many volunteers :p

    I claim dibbs on first pick! ;p
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    Downgradez :( Member Iskander 3.1's Avatar
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    I want to be the admiral! :)
    Strikeout!

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    if it's according to when they register on this thread, then huzzah! because I get to chose 3rd!
    if Maion could confirm the order of chosing.

    but I'm thinking that the first few turns may be rather uneventful, like those of BtSH, since we start small and not large like the AS in WotB.
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    I must say I am very impressed with the work put into organizing this. If you guys can get a moderate number of players, you will get a subforum in short order.


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    i'll speed this up by randomly picking, I don't need to see stats :p i'll suprise myself!

    i'll pick Alkyoneus Argeades

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    I'll take the dude in Demetrias if possible
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    I would love to play, but can i have 1.1 for btsh AND 1.2 fer this? i havent even played 1.2 yet.
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    Navarro, if you want I can forward you the instructions that Bean gave me for having both versions installed on one computer.
    Strikeout!

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    Meh it wont really matter who gets the normal avatars we are playing with rbgs right?
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    Navarro, if you want I can forward you the instructions that Bean gave me for having both versions installed on one computer.
    thatd be nice

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    Meh it wont really matter who gets the normal avatars we are playing with rbgs right?
    good question, Maion you using recruitables?
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    Good to see this is coming along.

    @Maion: any "line" which decides who can choose his Avatar first or is it first come first get?
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    Can I have Alexandros Argeades, pleasums?
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    since everyone else has already started choosing, I think I'll have Kalos Argeades, please.

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    if it's according to when they register on this thread, then huzzah! because I get to chose 3rd!
    if Maion could confirm the order of chosing.

    but I'm thinking that the first few turns may be rather uneventful, like those of BtSH, since we start small and not large like the AS in WotB.
    Sure, shoot away, I give chars in order of subscription. And I won't be Antigonos for everyone to know. I'll be passive for the start and act as a simple Synedros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan View Post
    Meh it wont really matter who gets the normal avatars we are playing with rbgs right?
    Well, for the beginning we won't. Way too much money needed for that and too little funds. Later on, sure.

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    Good to see this is coming along.

    @Maion: any "line" which decides who can choose his Avatar first or is it first come first get?
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    Order of subscription, see first reply.

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    Since i was first subscribed, I got first pick right?

    My choice was in my previous post :)

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    I think I'll be a Synedros for the time being. I will rather choose a character when the second generation comes to age.
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    OK, it's what I'm going to do as well. Note please that as a Synedros, you don't take turn-by-turn salaries, so you aren't very active as a member. The Archekataskopos, Archeproxenos and Archon Basilikou Stolou all get salaries and will have an important role later on. So don't go running to grab a FM, consider giving the Chief Agents a go instead

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    I am far too behind at the bottom of the queue to even think of choosing a character, so I guess I am a but a synedros for now.
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    Technically didn't I sign up first? I just didn't bother posting in two sign up threads when I'd already made my interest clear in the EB forums.
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    You're not stealing my FM Bean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Bean_ View Post
    Technically didn't I sign up first? I just didn't bother posting in two sign up threads when I'd already made my interest clear in the EB forums.
    OK, change of plan: grab what you can while still available, regardless of your subscription ranking.

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    haha, I dont want yours, Mini. I grab Alexandros.
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    that makes you my cousin ohnoes!

    I hope I can rp a serious dislike for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Bean_ View Post
    haha, I dont want yours, Mini. I grab Alexandros.
    Done.

    Quote Originally Posted by mini View Post
    that makes you my cousin ohnoes!

    I hope I can rp a serious dislike for you
    I seriously hope not. If we are divided from the beginning, we can start waving our little Kingdom good-bye from now. With Pyrrhos outside of Pella and the southern Hellenes threatening Korinthos, I expect very careful discussion and organization as to what is going to happen next.

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    lol
    How I rp my character, is my concern ;)


    If I decide that I don't like Bean's character, I'll do everything I can to increase my power or decrease his :p
    I'll see how this goes when Antigonas dies and who becomes next FL & FH ;p

    I'm the eldest son, I'd better become king yaarrrrrrr ;p

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    Quote Originally Posted by mini View Post
    lol
    How I rp my character, is my concern ;)


    If I decide that I don't like Bean's character, I'll do everything I can to increase my power or decrease his :p
    I'll see how this goes when Antigonas dies and who becomes next FL & FH ;p

    I'm the eldest son, I'd better become king yaarrrrrrr ;p
    How you roleplay you character certainly is up to you, but you must not forget you are a greater part of something. Things don't - and probably won't - revolve around your character.

    As for heritage, it's solely up to Antigonos as to who is chosen as the legitimate Heir. Right now, Krateros, Antigonos' brother, is set as Heir. The person who takes Antigonos may decide to change that at will. In any case, the final word belongs to the Synedrion. Each person who believes he is good enough to be the next Basileus, aside the set Heir, will present himself to the Synedrion and they will decide to whom they will give their "vote of trust". This basically means you, or anyone who claims the throne, will have to persuade us (the Synedrion) in order to vote for you.

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    Thats a much better idea than just giving it to the heir
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Bean_ View Post
    Thats a much better idea than just giving it to the heir
    If you read the rules, you'll see what I mean. It was done as such historically as well, so we're kind of "emulating" reality in some way. Also, since the Basileus is basically the one who proposes all Legislations, he is a very important character. Thus, he must be an able man: something the Synedrion decides when giving their "vote of trust".

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    Oh I know...I'm just expressing my vote of confidence in the decision to play it that way .
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