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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    Very interesting. Investigations are obviously completely useless. Everyone left has something potentially scummy about them, but none particularly stand out:

    Seamus would be a perfect person to 'convert' due to the trust he got from a few people early on, plus he would certainly be able to switch sides without showing his hand.

    boudica is similarly skilled and would be a good choice. Her continued activity shows a dedication to the game which might indicate a higher level of interest in the results.

    Psychonaut is the only remaining person with a power. That power didn't block CA or Yoyoma, but it did block Jolt. This is a bit odd, particularly his failure to block CA's kill of Sasaki. Perhaps this indicates that his power isn't a normal role block. However, he DID still block Jolt.

    Ichigo is a lurker extraordinaire. 7 posts the entire game, the fewest of anyone. He's lynchworthy simply because this is annoying behavior.

    Lord Winter
    is also very lurky. He also happened to defeat White Eyes in a duel. WE and LW were both apparently farmers, but LW had a duel score of 2 to WE's score of 1. Why was that?

    If I had to pick a single person at this point, it would probably be boudica. With Yoyoma proven innocent with his death, she remains the only person that Yoyoma did not personally check out. My investigation results are probably more likely to be flawed than his were.
    I agree that investigation has been redundant for a while now - shame as I didn't think Yoyoma was guilty, but his lack of effectiveness made him suspicious. I was more suspicious of 'Khaan but it appears that was also unfounded. I am now suspicious of everyone left alive. At this point I am looking at how suspicious they are to me:

    Seamus would have made a great conversion, I agree, but we are dealing with a Usurper here - an agent of Vode and given that we didn't seem to have any evidence that anyone else who has been lynched was converted - except maybe Andres(??) - I would suspect that the Usurpers could not convert. If that is the case then I would bet on Seamus' innocence given the early Mason reveals etc.

    boudica - just to answer your query - I am a farmer with battle rating of 2 - where did it say that White_Eyes:D rating was 1? Can WE confirm? I assumed that the duel was decided randomly.

    Psychonaut If Psychonaut is scum then he has played this to perfection. A fake role hiding another fake role? And one that actually works? Maybe this would make up for the fact that he could not make night kills? but I seriously doubt that is the case. That said there is still a Usurper alive so just maybe...

    Ichigo has been active recently, but either: 1) Has not bothered really to catch up on the thread and is probably innocent. 2) Is guilty and plans to lurk a little bit further to a victory that I think would leave a bad taste in everyones' mouth. At this point I'd be tempted to vote Ichigo - not because I necessarily think he is guilty - but because I would rather not see a lurker win this - most excellent - game if it turns out he is!

    Lord Winter - could be guilty - I really didn't feel the scummy vibe coming off him - We'll see how people vote tomorrow, assuming there are still no more night kills. (If there are I'm going back to the drawing board)

    To address TinCows last point about his suspicions of me at this stage - I can only support my innocence by stating that I was on record as being not in favour of lynching Yoyoma and have consistently trusted his guidance and respected his efforts in this game.

    I shall try to find time to go through the posts of each player left alive tomorrow morning for any clues - if anyone else has any genius theories then now's the time to throw them in - it feels like most players have lost interest in the fact that there is still a settler lurking - and that by (fulfilling Andres' SK conditions??) and killing the last of the 'Good' Men - they just leaped two steps closer to victory.

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    As the sun rose again, the settlers once again gathered to discuss. The manliest man with the manliest name Boudica required some help as he was very drunk, but the settlers had plenty of time as the priest king Reenk Roink arrived late to tell them to commence with the deliberations. He was comforting the widows of Yoyoma and the Shinsei Khaan.

    Challenge List:


    Alive:

    Lord Winter
    Psychonaut
    boudica
    Ichigo
    Seamus Fermanagh


    Executed:

    777Ares777
    Askthepizzaguy
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    TinCow
    Jolt
    CountArach
    Sigurd
    Tristan de Castelreng
    Yoyoma1910
    Shinseikhaan


    Fallen in battle:

    taka
    Captain Blackadder
    White_eyes:D


    Killed:

    TheFlax
    pevergreen
    Gaius Scribonius Curio
    Sasaki Kojiro
    Beefy187
    shlin28
    GeneralHankerchief
    FactionHeir
    LittleGrizzly



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    Quote Originally Posted by boudica View Post
    Ichigo has been active recently, but either: 1) Has not bothered really to catch up on the thread and is probably innocent. 2) Is guilty and plans to lurk a little bit further to a victory that I think would leave a bad taste in everyones' mouth. At this point I'd be tempted to vote Ichigo - not because I necessarily think he is guilty - but because I would rather not see a lurker win this - most excellent - game if it turns out he is!
    Yeah, I agree with this. I'm honestly out of ideas in this game. We've now had 6 nights in a row without a kill. That in itself is fatiguing and the lack of conversation is turning into a feedback loop. At this point, I don't really care who wins, but it would be a disgrace if it was Ichigo after all that has happened. So, lynch Ichigo and lets get this over with so that whoever is left can get their well-deserved victory.


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    Ichigo has nothing preventing him from helping out right now. But even since he "came back" his performance hasn't been up to his usual late-game townie play. He lurks most of the time, or doesn't talk much, but even ichigo contributes more late-game.

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    Vote: Ighigo

    We have the time to get rid of someone who we have no information on. With Ichigo gone, we can have an informed endgame.
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    I say we lynch boudica, then Ichigo.

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    Lynch the unknown while we have time. I'd rather leave time for two serious lynches after Ichigo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    Yeah, I agree with this. I'm honestly out of ideas in this game. We've now had 6 nights in a row without a kill. That in itself is fatiguing and the lack of conversation is turning into a feedback loop. At this point, I don't really care who wins, but it would be a disgrace if it was Ichigo after all that has happened. So, lynch Ichigo and lets get this over with so that whoever is left can get their well-deserved victory.
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    No offense intended, Ichigo, but you have to admit it would basically be sacrilege to allow someone with a single digit post count to win a game that's approaching the 2k mark.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    it would basically be sacrilege to allow someone with a single digit post count to win a game that's approaching the 2k mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    No offense intended, Ichigo, but you have to admit it would basically be sacrilege to allow someone with a single digit post count to win a game that's approaching the 2k mark.
    True. If I have double digits would that be okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichigo View Post
    True. If I have double digits would that be okay?
    Only if you're on my team.


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    Only if you're on my team.
    What team are you on?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sooh View Post
    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    What team are you on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sooh View Post
    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichigo View Post
    True. If I have double digits would that be okay?
    I think you need at least triple digits to win this game. And you have to get them within less than 24 hours without spamming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    I think you need at least triple digits to win this game. And you have to get them within less than 24 hours without spamming.

    Good luck
    OH NOES

    Vote: boudica

    Spent the first few rounds of the game writing little stories, which afaik didn't really say anything important just was for entertainment(?) I guess. After Sasaki said something about it she stopped doing it completely I find that strange. The rest of the posts look to me like nothing cleverly disguised as something, but that's just my opinion.

    My second guess would be Psychonaut. It's weird that he could block Jolt but not CA or Yoyoma. What's the point of a roleblocker if he can't really block roles? He hasn't really said a whole bunch, every post I saw was one or two lines.

    Lord Winter seems normal to me. Active but not overly so. Seamus would be the best conversion target which has already been said, but I don't see that in this game.

    I know it's fairly pointless to try and save myself since I was absent pretty much the entire game and will most likely be lynched for it now, but I at least hope what I've said will be taken into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FactionHeir View Post
    You sound....desperate.
    Really? Strange.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sooh View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichigo View Post
    OH NOES

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    Spent the first few rounds of the game writing little stories, which afaik didn't really say anything important just was for entertainment(?) I guess. After Sasaki said something about it she stopped doing it completely I find that strange. The rest of the posts look to me like nothing cleverly disguised as something, but that's just my opinion.

    My second guess would be Psychonaut. It's weird that he could block Jolt but not CA or Yoyoma. What's the point of a roleblocker if he can't really block roles? He hasn't really said a whole bunch, every post I saw was one or two lines.

    Lord Winter seems normal to me. Active but not overly so. Seamus would be the best conversion target which has already been said, but I don't see that in this game.

    I know it's fairly pointless to try and save myself since I was absent pretty much the entire game and will most likely be lynched for it now, but I at least hope what I've said will be taken into consideration.
    I think it was established that the role-block didn't work due to the fact that orders were processed chronologically - so Psychonaut must have sent them in late that night.

    As far as your comments above regarding me - I was happy to provide some kind of entertainment and go with the role-playing at the start as I really didn't have anything to do other than enjoy the world that Reenk had created. When it was highlighted that my west country (uk) accent was annoying people, I dropped it - also it wasn't contributing particularly to any investigation at that point - the reason for that was that all the Usurpers and other neutral roles were being revealed left right and centre without the assistance of any further investigation as such from town.

    I'm certainly happy to take what you have said in to consideration, but would disagree with your assessment of my own analysis. I've been trying to think analytically and I think my analysis of the White_Eyes:D situation was pretty much spot on - other than that we have a mafia who is not killing and basically waiting for town to do a job on itself for him. Forgive me if I feel that your vote against me of self-preservation is foolish, but I think your own analysis is pretty much just a cut and paste for what TinCow and various other suspicious/dead players have already stated.

    I don't think you are mafia however. Lord Winter's vote on you without provocation is far more suspicious to me, and so I shall vote: Lord Winter

    I'm fairly sure that Seamus & Psychonaut are what they say they are, so even if it ends in a three way tie - then at least towns' work should be finally done.

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    Ichigo's absence could explain the lack of kills in the previous rounds, allthough I'd be surprised if Reenk wouldn't allow his partners to send in the orders for him.
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    Completely undecided. Utterly confused. My gut isn't tingling, so I don't want to throw around my vote.

    I can confirm I got my orders in quite late both times I blocked Yoyoma and the time I blocked CA. However, when I blocked Jolt I did so right after the day phase ended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    Ichigo's absence could explain the lack of kills in the previous rounds, allthough I'd be surprised if Reenk wouldn't allow his partners to send in the orders for him.
    The way I read Reenk's responses, the surviving scum hasn't killed because he/she cannot kill. I suspect it is a mafia investigator or perhaps an independent townie that still has an unfulfilled side-quest, like eliminating the Brewer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    The way I read Reenk's responses, the surviving scum hasn't killed because he/she cannot kill. I suspect it is a mafia investigator or perhaps an independent townie that still has an unfulfilled side-quest, like eliminating the Brewer.
    Yes, but I am scum using reverse psychology here. Go ahead, convince the townies to lynch Ichigo

    I promise you won't regret it.

    Alternatively, you could also just end the game by lynching Psychonaut and boudica in the next two rounds. Yes, you are facing 2 bad guys and you have to lynch at least one this round to end this game.

    But don't listen to me, you probably already know that my true partner in crime is Lord Winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    The way I read Reenk's responses, the surviving scum hasn't killed because he/she cannot kill. I suspect it is a mafia investigator or perhaps an independent townie that still has an unfulfilled side-quest, like eliminating the Brewer.
    Or, it's someone who was converted by the demon on the one night he existed but didn't do anything obvious to us. This then likely would have changed the person's victory conditions, without necessarily giving them additional abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910 View Post
    Or, it's someone who was converted by the demon on the one night he existed but didn't do anything obvious to us. This then likely would have changed the person's victory conditions, without necessarily giving them additional abilities.
    Yes, that is a likely scenario as well, probably more-so since you've been proven innocent. Hence my initial focus on boudica, simply because you did not get a result on her. For what its worth, when considering who would have been recruited, I think Ichigo is at the bottom of the list. His total inactivity at that point (somewhere around 3 posts) would have made him completely unattractive to someone who was trying to get a useful ally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres
    Yes, but I am scum using reverse psychology here. Go ahead, convince the townies to lynch Ichigo. I promise you won't regret it. Alternatively, you could also just end the game by lynching Psychonaut and boudica in the next two rounds. Yes, you are facing 2 bad guys and you have to lynch at least one this round to end this game. But don't listen to me, you probably already know that my true partner in crime is Lord Winter.
    So, what we do is either not read it, or we read it but don't let it affect our decisions in the slightest. Not for or against anyone. If Andres is a scum, perhaps we shouldn't let him influence us. Though you probably already know this, I just wanted to do a little reminder in case some of the townies forgot... due to this game being so long it warrants its own trilogy. I notice TinCow is interacting with Andres almost as if he's considering Andres' words. Am I wrong?

    Bah, don't listen to me I'm dead and by now, I've rotted to basically a skeleton. On the plus side, I've lost a lot of excess weight now I'm all skin and bones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    So, what we do is either not read it, or we read it but don't let it affect our decisions in the slightest. Not for or against anyone. If Andres is a scum, perhaps we shouldn't let him influence us. Though you probably already know this, I just wanted to do a little reminder in case some of the townies forgot... due to this game being so long it warrants its own trilogy. I notice TinCow is interacting with Andres almost as if he's considering Andres' words. Am I wrong?

    Bah, don't listen to me I'm dead and by now, I've rotted to basically a skeleton. On the plus side, I've lost a lot of excess weight now I'm all skin and bones.
    Well, he is a townie who jsut so happened to murder Good Men. Since all Good Men are dead, if Town wins, he wins as well.
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    I have a vague recollection that you are also an untrustworthy party. And he's not acting like a townie to me/ but what do I know? My brain has been eaten by worms.
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    I suggest we do whatever Andres says.

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