The fight for Inishmore [Concluded]

[El Diablo]

GG pever. Thaks for hosting. It was fun.
Only the second time I have won a game !!

Appolgies to those that I helped to lynch wrong on the way - particularly Boudica.

Go town woo!!

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG was mafia?

Missed the boat on that one, Greyblades! Where have you been?

Ah well. Once again town does well by NOT listening to me. Hahahaha

Turns out I was helping the Mafia mastermind as best I could anyway... I even asked Pevergreen if there was a mafia mastermind and he acted like he'd never heard of one.

Hilarious.

[Greyblades]

Missed the boat on that one, Greyblades! Where have you been?
Hilarious.

In a half aware daze. Depression really sucks when your trying to concentrate for long periods of time.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well... Mastermind'd again. This is getting annoyingly common.

Well played khaan, but you had to die in the end.

[Beefy187]

And now I have to fix the synopsis

Nice work town

[Diana Abnoba]

Well done town, well done khaan, what a twist. Now, is it really over, or is there another twist?

[Lord Winter]

First town victory were I actually survived. Anyway, well played by all. The anti town roles have nothing to be ashamed about. Wish GH got to run his last kill for 'khan though.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So with 9 alive, we had 5 mafia left...and they all bought it

Very bold choice by khaan to go for the solo victory. Don't think he had a chance at success though.

I enjoyed doing the Oswald write ups, and enjoyed even more when yoyoma and reenk died as a result of them. Killing seamus the night he investigated me was choice as well.

Here's our quicktopic:

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/VaLYuRTvhWyPW

AVSM got killed because he posted asking when the role pm's were going to be sent out, but then edited to "nvm" a few minutes later.

Taka for mentioning something about davey.

Alexander the pretty good because we thought it likely that he would pick lemur to send his results through.

YLC because it looked like he might be trying to distance himself from a mairead role.

Greyblades because he seemed a bit twitchy.

Andres because he seemed scummy.

Seamus because he was the detective

LG because we wanted an el diablo lynch


I went after LittleGrizzly as hard as I did because we absolutely couldn't have it look like I knew a detective had a guilty on Ituralde. That would have pointed right to GH. I kept it up in later rounds because I'd convinced myself he was mafia though in the round boudica got lynched I pushed him because I needed to look like I didn't want boudica lynched and because I needed another suspect for godfather.

Final two rounds, we thought khaan would be with us, but he decided to go his own way...low activity, ended predictably with the remaining three mafia dying off and the townies winning. Game peaked at the last minute vote change to lynch boudica.

[seireikhaan]

A few comments real quick about the choices for Godfather:

GH- Rather obvious, is it not? The recent host of Godfather III, a game I tried to participate in and FAILED utterly in. However, despite that, it was still quite fun. GH did a great service to the many who play now who never got to play the first two. In combination with the eery fact that GH almost *never* ends up as a mafioso, something I feel is very unfortunate(loving to play the role myself). Add in the fact that I want to, of course, see how he plays as a mafioso(again, seeing as its so rare) without having to actually be suffered to it without knowledge of its happening.

Diana Abnoba- Consider this my WELCOME! to mafia. I feel there is no better way to be introduced to mafia than to be thrust into the fire as a mafioso, particularly if there are solid veterans to learn from. Myself, my first game was Cosa Nuova II, in which I was a rook mafioso who got lynched halfway through the game. However, I got to learn from Seamus and Hughtower, both of whom had an excellent idea of what they were doing.
Of course, to be honest, there is more to this than just that- an inexperienced Godfathermother, I felt, would be a generally easier target to work with. Plus, I figured it was a near guarantee that you would pick Pizzaguy as one of your grunts, and I love me a sparring match with Pizza. And you wisely picked Andres to help offer guidance to your efforts. All in all, you played an excellent game, lasting longer than I did for sure my first time!




Of course, I'm sure that GH, Sasaki, and Ituralde are quite curious about my end game choices. Basically, it works like this: in the second to last round, I had ONE way of ensuring my total victory; to convince the town of GH's guilt, lynching him and casting Sasaki out of Inishmore in one fell swoop. unfortunately, nobody took my bait, and instead targeted Sasaki, which was highly unfortunate for me. I was pretty convinced that GH would have me killed regardless at this point, since I had pretty well shown I WASN'T on their side, and my threat of having him lynched was moot since he had the same ability.

Now, I could have cast my vote, in the end, for El Diablo. What would that have done? 2 vs 1 vs 1. 2 mafia, one townie, and me. Result? Victory. For both me and the English Mafia. If either mafia had one, I would have won as well. But here's the thingy about that... I'm really bad about sharing. I was going to take my shot for the ultimate victory and hope for the slim chance that GH would try to kill El Diablo or Lord Winter, while I would kill him, resulting in only myself and the one remaining townsperson, and a true WELSH triumph.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It was a bit more direct a route to victory than one would expect from you, Shinseikhaan.

I was totally thrown for a loop again; it seems to me you wouldn't have exposed yourself to the English if you had chosen to try to make it all the way to the end by yourself. But then again, my reads on people are 50/50 at best, so maybe next time I'll just flip a coin.

[GeneralHankerchief]

TBH, I thought your plan was to vote Sasaki just to make us (the Brits) squirm for as long as possible and then end up on my side at the endas we ganged up on El Diablo for the final lynch. However, I wasn't about to be beholden to you in that way and decided to risk being lynched by the town in an effort to make sure you lost.

-edit- I know firsthand from Spirit Mafia that while aligning yourself to the mafia will get you to the end, it won't get you across the final hurdle. Take note, solo players. You're best served going at it alone.

[seireikhaan]

It was a bit more direct a route to victory than one would expect from you, Shinseikhaan.

That's the whole point.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Awww, couldn't yall just get along and share? I thought I had done something all profound-like with the Golden Rule game...

[seireikhaan]

TBH, I thought your plan was to vote Sasaki just to make us (the Brits) squirm for as long as possible and then end up on my side at the endas we ganged up on El Diablo for the final lynch. However, I wasn't about to be beholden to you in that way and decided to risk being lynched by the town in an effort to make sure you lost.

Ya, I sorta figured you were going to kill me when you said you would probably kill El Diablo the following night when we were chatting on steam. You need to be a bit less obvious.

EDIT: And I still had a good chance of winning the solo. If the town had been more receptive to my pitch, and given the activity levels, if I'd succeeded in obtaining an early bandwagon on you, you could have revealed all you wanted and it wouldn't have done diddly to stop me.

[seireikhaan]

Oh, and a couple other points of curiosity, GH:

Surely you guys didn't buy that awful "reveal" I gave to you, right? EDIT: To clarify, the one I gave to GH, not the one I gave to the town.

Second, GH, how many times did I "gently suggest" you kill Pizza or Diana?

[GeneralHankerchief]

I knew something was up, especially when you took forever to send that role PM I asked you for. Can't remember if there was something up about the fake results you sent too. But look at it from our point of view: we had nothing else to go on. All we knew is that you knew I was the Godfather, which was the giant specter hanging over all of us. Had you found out Sasaki or Ituralde I would have probably cut them loose in order to get rid of you as a threat, but any retaliation on our part could have instantly ended the game.

[taka]

excellent game the best part of this game and i liked the most, was the kinda "story within the story". what happened to the cat in the end?

and forgot to say, grats the El Diablo!

[seireikhaan]

I knew something was up, especially when you took forever to send that role PM I asked you for. Can't remember if there was something up about the fake results you sent too. But look at it from our point of view: we had nothing else to go on. All we knew is that you knew I was the Godfather, which was the giant specter hanging over all of us. Had you found out Sasaki or Ituralde I would have probably cut them loose in order to get rid of you as a threat, but any retaliation on our part could have instantly ended the game.

Hey, forever? I thought 2 minutes was an impressive clip considering I was making it up as I went.

But ya, I figured the "spectre" effect as you called it would ensure my safety regardless of how poor the PM was.

And the results thing was because I made up the results and the rounds I did them, and when you asked for a result, I accidentally put a different round for Shlin's result.

[seireikhaan]

Found it:

GeneralHankerchief: so why does it say "Inishmore Night Two" when you said you investigated shlin the first night?
seireikhaan: because I made that up, of course

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Oh, and a couple other points of curiosity, GH:

Surely you guys didn't buy that awful "reveal" I gave to you, right? EDIT: To clarify, the one I gave to GH, not the one I gave to the town.

Second, GH, how many times did I "gently suggest" you kill Pizza or Diana?

The only way for you to be on our side only and have the game be balanced was if seamus could only find the brit mafia. We figured it was more likely that you could find both godfathers and pick which one you sided with.

I wasn't planning on killing you...certainly wouldn't have if you voted el diablo from the start, and wouldn't have if you switched it with no fuss either. Ah well.

[GeneralHankerchief]

See, that's where I'm a bit colder than you, Sasaki. khaan was dead to me as soon as he failed to vote El Diablo right away.

[pevergreen]

excellent game the best part of this game and i liked the most, was the kinda "story within the story". what happened to the cat in the end?

Yay! Someone liked the story!

Wee Thomas, your little cat, got safely to davey, who was killed, and now lives with Lord Winter and El Diablo who feed him anything he wants.

I think I'll stick to mostly vanilla games from now on. My crazy games don't seem to be as much fun for people. Halls of the Dead would have been great though.

As for commentary, I'm really not a commenting person. There were some laughs early on when Sasaki, Andres, ATPG and Ituralde all fought with each other, and ATPG nearly getting himself lynched to be 'innocent'. His continued attitude that he was going to lose got a bit annoying. The kills were painful to read.

The only kill I wrote myself was GH's. You can tell, because the other ones were all better.

So the town of Inishmore lives on...

[Ituralde]

Thanks for the game pever!

It was interesting to be a Mafioso after I hadn't played for such a long time. It was difficult because I was trying to play as town, but then I couldn't remember how it was like to play as town. I'm also bummed that I woke up that early on Wednesday although I went to sleep really late the night before, because suddenly ATPG suspected me because of it. Probably have to think more before I sign on to the .org. And if it hadn't been for RL keeping me offline during the most active periods of the game I could have done something more interesting than just skitter around in the beginning and then not show up until right before the lynch.

[Sigurd]

I must publicly apologize to pevergreen for not being able to participate in your game.
Being robbed of the ability to browse these forums during work hours (at least until July), greatly put a hamper on my participation in the great games of the gameroom.

After long work hours, I find myself a bit out of breath and being a family man, I have a small window to spend time here every day. Weekends are even worse.

Luckily I don't think this game suffered by my total inactivity as I was a non role townie.
Town won though...

Will there be a badge?

[LittleGrizzly]

Great game pever i really enjoyed it!

I didn't kick into action straight away partially because of my watcher role in reenks game, but then i died in reenks game and sasaki started accussing me and it all kicked off in this game for me!

Sasaki... so you did actually think i was mafia ? not just setting up an innocent for the lynch...?

Im just really glad you turned out to be mafia... would have felt quite stupid otherwise...

I was just a regular townie here but i feel i did my little bit to contribute towards the victory...

[Andres]

Oh, and sorry for using you as my favourite target, LittleGrizzly

I really thought you were just an innocent townie, but since you were so kind to answer to each accusation, you were a convenient target to create lots of distracting and annoying noise

[Yoyoma1910]

Are you sure it wasn't the people of Cornwallis that won?





Thanks for the great game.... and for... uh... smothering me with Beefy's bum after having me run around like a cowboy. I thought that was really funny.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sasaki... so you did actually think i was mafia ? not just setting up an innocent for the lynch...?

I convinced myself you were...it's the best way to go as mafia, otherwise you sound insincere. Then we moved to white_eyes as a suspect, and diana in the last round.

[pevergreen]

badge? huh?

[Yoyoma1910]

badge? huh?

Yeah, all the cool hosts are giving out badges now.