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    Default Re: Hate to say that I do not like the game!

    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    1. Same for M2TW and RTW. ATPG and others won M2TW in 20 odd turns, taking every province. You cant do that in ETW
    a: You make the choice, if you lose, you die. Realistic.
    2: Diplomacy works much much better. No more "GET OFF MY LAND". You can see why their position is. massive improvement. Military/diplomatic AI isnt separate.
    a: Same again, they are minor for a reason. Crush them if you want, keep them alive if you like the pretty colours on the minimap. My opinion is they take the place of rebels from previous games
    b: What is it when Milan can take over Euorpe? When Persia can conquer all of egypt. When Brittania can take western euorpe. TW provides many many outcomes, some historically correct, some hilarious.
    c&d: should be tweaked in patches, thats simply priorities gone wrong for the AI
    3. What about them?
    a: Stops them stealing your research, if you are stealing theirs, gives you a better chance, with the upcoming mp campaign, removes vision and stops their research.
    Thank you for reminding me. ;-)

    Maybe I was just expecting too much of the new TW game.

    I stick to my point though, that the power of the minor nations is nor very well balanced and that better use could have made of the fact that they play part in the game.
    And I do not see any improvement in the diplomacy features at all.

    I guess it is wait and see what the next patch will bring.

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    Default Re: Hate to say that I do not like the game!

    To me M2TW was a disappointment. It was just blitz. Everyone is going to war with you at some point anyway so just have at it.

    This game is different. There are a lot of things still to learn and the tactics both land and sea have some depth.

    Everything is not working perfectly but I think it will be much better than the past games in the end.

    Granted it has more starting issues then the others but it is also more complex.

    Diplomacy is improved. Some times factions will make peace when they should…not always of course, but sometimes.

    I don’t find Rakes of much use. Maybe they just don’t work as well as advertised. Gentlemen do research and that is a big deal. If you can kill the enemy it does slow him…though usually it has been my men who went down in flames.

    I know it can be improved and I hope that I like what they do…in the past I went back to the older versions. Something we can’t do this time. So I hope they keep the AI balanced and don’t make it a bunch of aggressive warmongering mad men.


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    My main problem with diplomacy is that you cannot intercede between 2 AI nations. An ally you go to war with to defeat a common enemy should also go to peace if you broker a peace deal with the enemy nation. Other than that the diplomacy is much improved over previous TW games. Most of the other points are pretty much spot on though.

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    Default Re: Hate to say that I do not like the game!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    Diplomacy is improved.
    Twice nothing is still nothing.
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    I think Empire Total War is a fine improvement over M2TW and RTW wall still being a Total War game which is what it is and I assume was set out to be from the start.

    Would it be as fun if it was imposable to expand in an a historical way? Probably not it is a sandbox to play with after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeV View Post
    Twice nothing is still nothing.
    Do you not think that not having to run ambassadors around the map is an improvement? Its certainly more than nothing.

    Btw you can answer more than one question per post, unless you want to spam your post number up ;)

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    Default Re: Hate to say that I do not like the game!

    Quote Originally Posted by mmk View Post
    Maybe I was just expecting too much of the new TW game.
    But it's so pretty (if your box has enough graphics horsepower) ...
    Last edited by MikeV; 04-12-2009 at 03:52.
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    Default Re: Hate to say that I do not like the game!

    problem with empire tw is they made it to complicated....

    ...for the ai

    despite all the flaws, they did add a lot of new features.... but if the ai cant utilize them properly wtf is the point?

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    Well, it does have flaws, and its not for everyone.

    At least are actually addressing the major problems, though. Remember when they fixed the passive AI bug in MTW 2, and then made two handers not suck? Me neither!
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    Default Re: Hate to say that I do not like the game!

    For anyone wishing to just dislike the game, great. You have the purgative.

    But if all you want to do is complain then there is little reason to discuss the issue.

    No one wants to change your mind.

    We all have aspects we would have improved but if you would rather not play then fine.

    Complaining for the sake of complaining is just flat boring.

    If there are suggestions for improvement or what you would change then perhaps there is value in talking about it.

    From my view point this thread is going no where and may have a very short life.


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    Default Re: Hate to say that I do not like the game!

    Quote Originally Posted by bluenu View Post
    problem with empire tw is they made it to complicated....

    ...for the ai

    despite all the flaws, they did add a lot of new features.... but if the ai cant utilize them properly wtf is the point?
    no they just forgot to include an AI and went for the point they knew would sell : eyecandy

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    Default Re: Hate to say that I do not like the game!

    Empty criticism is pointless!

    Of course there is AI.

    And if you don’t think it is improved go back an play M2 for a while.
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    Default Re: Hate to say that I do not like the game!

    I dont necessarily hate the Game, but am disappointed with endlesssssssssssssss Navy CTD's , regardless of Theatre. Even without use of Fleets, all of Europe is under Prussian control, with the exception of Great Britain, Denmark(Iceland) . The disadvantage being involved in a long, drawn-out LAND Battle, slowly conquering the territories, one by one without the use of Navies is a major setback.

    When CA/ SEGA/ Whoever gets the patch to fix this Naval glitch, then I'd love to play as the Game was intended.
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    Default Re: Hate to say that I do not like the game!

    Those are good points!

    But you know, I don’t have those issues.

    My Land battles all hang instead. The Naval Game works great….

    Sometimes it is Prussia and sometimes not.

    I don’t know if it just acts differently on some systems or what but it does not make fixes easy when the problems are not all the same.

    I know I hate having to auto resolve my battles. And CTD in Naval Battles would be just infuriating.

    I hope something can be done soon!


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    I just don't understand how people are getting so many hangs and CTD's... I've only ever had 2!

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