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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut View Post
    What have you been reading? Sounds interesting.
    Tommy: The British Soldier on the Western Front, Richard Holmes 978-0007137527

    Looks at contemporary accounts of ww1 and looks at how the war was percieved from the twenties onwards as badly run, in contrast to contemporay accounts. Mainly from a British POV but some US, French & German viewpoints.

    Mud, Blood and Poppycock: Britain and the Great War, Gordan Corrigan 978-0304366590
    Sets about tackling each "myth" of the Great War from soldiers drowning in mud, to innocents being shot at dawn. (both of which happened but not to the extent you'd think)

    Both are unashamedly revisionist and tackle ww1 from different (and arguably more historically accurate) perspectives.

    Your chapter headings sound good - to be honest the best layman accesible descriptions of the causes leading up to the war (and summaries of each year) can be found in:-

    The Frightful First World War, Terry Deary, 978-1407103020

    which is for high school kids but has this little gem to explain it all:-

    Why did the Great War start?
    Lots of big, thick history books have been written to answer that question. But, to put it simply, by 1914 the countries of Europe had formed themselves into two big gangs.......like street gangs.
    The gang called the `Central Powers' were led by the Germans and
    the gang we call the `Allies' were led by the French and British.
    The two gangs started collecting weapons, making threats and swapping insults, the way gangs do.
    All it needed was for one gang member to throw the first stone and a huge punch-up would follow.....'
    So exactly HOW did the First World War start?
    It's never one of the gang leaders that starts the fight, is it?
    It's always one of the scruffy little kids that hangs around the edge.
    In this case the scruffy little kid was called Bosnia in the Allies' gang.....'

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    Although really, a German-British alliance was more likely than the one encountered in real life.
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    Although really, a German-British alliance was more likely than the one encountered in real life.
    Yeah, before the naval build up. After that and a misguided German forigen policy, it was almost impossible.
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    What I would be aware of is the danger of determinism - the first world war was not a natural consequence of the (changable) geopolitical situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleander Ardens View Post
    What I would be aware of is the danger of determinism - the first world war was not a natural consequence of the (changable) geopolitical situation.
    It was certainly the natural consequence of human nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleander Ardens View Post
    What I would be aware of is the danger of determinism - the first world war was not a natural consequence of the (changable) geopolitical situation.
    Would you mind expanding on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethelred Unread View Post
    Tommy: The British Soldier on the Western Front, Richard Holmes 978-0007137527

    Looks at contemporary accounts of ww1 and looks at how the war was percieved from the twenties onwards as badly run, in contrast to contemporay accounts. Mainly from a British POV but some US, French & German viewpoints.

    Mud, Blood and Poppycock: Britain and the Great War, Gordan Corrigan 978-0304366590
    Sets about tackling each "myth" of the Great War from soldiers drowning in mud, to innocents being shot at dawn. (both of which happened but not to the extent you'd think)

    Both are unashamedly revisionist and tackle ww1 from different (and arguably more historically accurate) perspectives.

    Your chapter headings sound good - to be honest the best layman accesible descriptions of the causes leading up to the war (and summaries of each year) can be found in:-

    The Frightful First World War, Terry Deary, 978-1407103020
    Nice list. I'm going to look at those books on Amazon.

    These are some of what I've read over the last few months. (They're all the shelf two-feet from me.)

    The Guns of August - Tuchman
    The Zimmermann Telegram - Tuchman (This is a great little book!)
    They Called it Pashendaele - MacDonald
    Storm of Steel - Ernst Junger
    The World Crisis 1911-1918 - Churchill
    Vimy Ridge: A Canadian Reassessment - various authours
    The Battle of the Somme - Gilbert

    Some others on my shelf specific to WWI that I read before:

    The First World War - Keegan
    The Real War 1914 - 1919 - Liddell Hart
    Lawrence of Arabia - Hart
    Paris 1919 - Macmillan
    Vimy - Pierre Berton

    The Arms of Krupp - It isn't limited to WWI, but it's a goldmine of information, and a helluva good book.

    I just started The Influence of Sea Power Upon History. It's said the Kaiser read it over and over prior to the war. Looking forward to reading a book called 11 VCs Before Breakfast about the Zeebrugge raid. I just saw a short clip on video about that raid and it looks fascinating.

    There are about a dozen other books I'd like to get over the summer. One about the first tanks, another about Second Ypres, a set of two books about the Canadian Army in WWI, one about Verdun, and... and... and... Yep, Amazon loves me.
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