The Gaming News Thread

**Xiahou** · 04-23-2009, 04:53

Originally Posted by frogbeastegg

Bethesda's world inhabited by Obsidian's characters and plot - it's a match made in heaven! Or it had better be! Obsidian plus KOTOR should have been equally glorious; publisher greed ruined it.

Not to be a party pooper, but Obsidian doesn't really have a good track record does it? They kind of have a reputation for getting farmed out sequels to games and turning them into disappointments....

KOTOR2 was a good game, but unfinished and ultimately disappointing compared to the first. NWN2, to me at least, was an unplayable mess when it first came out. Two expansions later and I hear its finally starting to come together, but I've stopped caring.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but when I hear Obsidian is getting to do another sequel to a different devs game, its more likely to elicit a sigh from me than excitement.

**Lemur** · 04-23-2009, 05:27

Originally Posted by Xiahou

I'd love to be proven wrong, but when I hear Obsidian is getting to do another sequel to a different devs game, its more likely to elicit a sigh from me than excitement.

They need to negotiate a lot harder before accepting deals, that's obvious. Since they can't fund their own development the way Valve and BioWare can, they need to get guarantees of development budget and post-release support budget before they sign another contract, or their reputation will be forever destroyed. More than it is. Now.

**frogbeastegg** · 04-23-2009, 11:32

Originally Posted by Xiahou

Not to be a party pooper, but Obsidian doesn't really have a good track record does it? They kind of have a reputation for getting farmed out sequels to games and turning them into disappointments....

KOTOR2 was a good game, but unfinished and ultimately disappointing compared to the first. NWN2, to me at least, was an unplayable mess when it first came out. Two expansions later and I hear its finally starting to come together, but I've stopped caring.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but when I hear Obsidian is getting to do another sequel to a different devs game, its more likely to elicit a sigh from me than excitement.

KOTORII was shoved out early by LucasArts. I doubt any company could have made a success out of that. Even so, the game is more famous for what it wasn't than what it was.

NWN2 is less excusable. It seems they made some changes to the engine after people complained the game wasn't pretty enough, and those changes caused a raft of problems they weren't able to purge before release.

Obsidian is not so hot at technical stuff. This was true of their earlier, pre-Obsidian games too. Planescape: Torment had a lot of problems, so did the Fallouts, so did Icewind Dale. This announcement gives me hope - this is a mature, well made engine with mature, well made tools, and Bethesda are supporting Obsidian on the technical side. The development won't be rushed, the game won't be shoved out, and, as Tincow said earlier, I can't see Bethesda allowing a dodgy game to rain on the name they are working so hard to build back up.

Please, please do give NWN2 another go. In its current form the game easily stands next to the classic Infinity Engine titles; it's the closest thing we have to a modern Baldur's Gate 2. I played the game at release and hated it; I gave it a second go because I kept seeing people talking about how good it had become. I'm so happy I did.

I made a dedicated topic for the game as the discussion here is starting to take over the news thread.

**FactionHeir** · 04-28-2009, 19:15

Yesterday a Polish Gaming News site reported just after office hours that The Witcher: Rise of the White Wolf was cancelled on short notice.

ShackNews today confirms the same story, in English along with the statement of a CD Projekt RED PR Manager who stated that a comment would be forthcoming soon in an ominous turn of events, though the actual fate of the game has yet to be revealed.

**TinCow** · 04-28-2009, 20:19

Wow, that's strange. Didn't The Witcher sell pretty well?

**FactionHeir** · 04-28-2009, 20:32

Yeah, it did quite well, and the EE too, considering it is coming from a previously unknown dev team from Poland. It did suffer somewhat from being less well known abroad from what I know. CDPR wanted to expand into the console market for this one particular game at least to share the experience with non PC users and to further improve on the PC version I imagine. Considering the amount of work put into it and the regular news updates on the console port, I am rather surprised to even read such rumors and certainly hope for the best.

**FactionHeir** · 04-28-2009, 20:43

Gamebanshee has more to say and announces cancellation of Rise of the White Wolf but all production now being focussed on a multi-platform The Witcher 2.

**TinCow** · 04-29-2009, 14:18

Ah, then I don't particularly care. Rise of the White Wolf was just the console port of the first game, right?

**frogbeastegg** · 05-11-2009, 14:40

Thief 4 is real.

**frogbeastegg** · 05-19-2009, 16:02

On the day I finish the Fallout DLC, yet more is announced.

**Warluster** · 05-28-2009, 23:41

The complete MW2 trailer is now released. Rather then snatches of gameplay it completely shows off the game; it feels more like a movie trailer then one for a game!
Modern Warfare 2

Looking really good so far. From a quick look at this trailer they might've put some more effort into the story and characters!