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    One word:
    Companions.
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    Heavy cav always does the trick. If I have Geastae I use them in the front lines to scare off the more weak willed troops. Plus they are too hard to kill to keep in reserve. They can hold the line forever to give my cav time to go around the enemy line.

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    Marzbân-î Jundîshâpûr Member The Persian Cataphract's Avatar
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    Take a guess at the choice I've picked


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Persian Cataphract View Post
    Take a guess at the choice I've picked
    Well, look at that. I finally see a vote for slingers...
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    I prefer frightening infatry like Celtic champions, rhomphaia guys, peltastai makedonikoi, but also heavy cav. But my cavalry is usualy busy killing archers, heavy non-spear infantry and taking care of already routing units.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Andronikos View Post
    But my cavalry is usualy busy killing archers, heavy non-spear infantry and taking care of already routing units.
    So just train more cavalry . How many mounted units does your normal army have? My armies usually have a mounted general and 4-5 units of horsemen.

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    I personally find that I rarely rout large portions of the enemy army. Probably cause I like to play Roman and kill Hellenes, whose Phalanxes rarely break and rout en masse.

    So, usually I get some cavalry behind them (yes I play on huge), to kill off archers and get ready to charge backs while my own missile troops (I just love Accensii and Cretan Archers) take their toll on vulnerable enemies and one or two of the Hellenic archers firing flaming arrows. Meanwhile I use part of my infantry to chuck pilae at them and go in and hold them till I can concentrate on those phalanxes, meanwhile the rest of my infantry flanks the phalangites and makes them walk all over, breaking their line into isolated phalanx. Then I create local quantitative superiority and concentrate on the phalanxes one by one with infantry and Cav. Some will rout, others not, but even repeated massed cavalry charges at their backs rarely makes a line of phalangites break. So I rout/kill them one or two at a time by creating local superiority, using my superior mobility and all the while cursing these AS Graeculi wannabees, and being sorely tempted to Blitz AS instead of fighting 1-3 phalanx battles every turn.

    Hence I rarely have a battle-turning unit. It is a combination of slaughter, flaming arrows and cavalry/infantry charges that routs or kills those damn Phalangites.

    The Sweboz owns large parts of northern Europe and are killing off all Gauls, so soon I shall be fighting them, perhaps they rout easier.
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    Say Maion, I think this barbaroi has never seen a flurry of dory/sarissae/xyston crushing his own kin. Let's be kind and give him a bird's eye view of it!

    *impales Macilrille by the groin and lifts him into the sky*

    See? it's simple, Sarissae in the middle, poliskrate on the flanks, and the Hetairoi going ALL HEIL MAKEDONIA at the barbaroi's sorry buttocks.

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    Default Re: The Ultimate Battle Turning Unit

    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    So just train more cavalry . How many mounted units does your normal army have? My armies usually have a mounted general and 4-5 units of horsemen.
    General + 1-3 cavalry units, depends on mine and enemy factions. Sometimes I have armies composed only of cavalry with few archers and light infantry, in that case I make enemy army route with cavalry.
    But good idea, I'll try using light cavalry more.



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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishHitman View Post
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