Galatian Help

[seienchin]

2. They were relatives, but the Celtic kingdom of Tylis was an independent entity, not controlled by the Galatians. IIRC at EB's starting date Galatia had an alliance with Bythinia, so you could give them the latter province.

3. Did they come back? AFAIK the Galatians settled quite happily in Egypt. Similarly, I am not sure that Galatians actually served in phalanx units.

2. First of all, the Galatians werent one single tribe. They are just called the galatians, because of their new home. Now, the celts in Thylis were members of the same tribes as the people, who lived setlled in Galatia. They invaded Greek togher then split up. They are the same people as the Galatians, so its more realistic to give them to the Galatian faction, then having them fight each other...
3. What do you mean by did they come back? They were Galatians, who settled in Egypt, but many more just fought in the service of the Ptollis and Seleuks as Mercenarys and the Galatians adopted more and more greek culter as you can see from their coins, which in later times often displayed greek god like heracles etc. So why not give them phalangitai?

[Ravenic]

Well you could give them rainbow colored ninjas too, but since EB is an anally historical mod if it didn't happen historically then its an odd fit.

The fact is that very few Galatians fought in phalanxes, and those that did more often than not lived in Egypt as second or third generation immigrants in the first place, and never returned to Galatia. Overwhelmingly, the mercenaries that Egypt always hired from Galatia were the sort of heavy infantry, sword and board with a mail coat that you see reflected in the Ptolemy faction roster.

Whatsmore there is no record of Galatian Kings, either in 272 BC or 60 BC using phalangitai. If you really want a pike armed Galatia hire some mercenaries.

[Ghaust the Moor]

Hey, I just figured out what to do with traits. While was wandering through the traits list. I found the name CasseTectosage (I'm replacing the casse). I noticed this was one of the tribes that setteled down in Galatia, and mixed with the Tolistoboiis and Trogmis. I looked a few places down, and found Cassetrogmi and Cassetolistoagii (in other words, the tolistoboii). I will show the varying ethninticity of the galatians with different people having tectosage, tolistoboii, and trogmi traits. The Galatians of Tylis will have the trogmi trait, I think. I am pretty sure they are the ones who settled a little in greece. All people will have their ethiniticity in their name as well. Ex: Lugotorix The Tolistoagii. tell me what ya think.

[Ludens]

2. First of all, the Galatians werent one single tribe. They are just called the galatians, because of their new home. Now, the celts in Thylis were members of the same tribes as the people, who lived setlled in Galatia. They invaded Greek togher then split up. They are the same people as the Galatians, so its more realistic to give them to the Galatian faction, then having them fight each other...
3. What do you mean by did they come back? They were Galatians, who settled in Egypt, but many more just fought in the service of the Ptollis and Seleuks as Mercenarys and the Galatians adopted more and more greek culter as you can see from their coins, which in later times often displayed greek god like heracles etc. So why not give them phalangitai?

2) I don't really see how this counters my point. Yes, the Celts of Tylis were relatives to those in Galatia. But they had their own rulers and did not pay heed to the Galatian council. Similarly, Syracuse was founded by the Corinthians, but was always independent of its founder.

3) I mean that Galatians that settled in Egypt did not come back to Galatia.

[Ghaust the Moor]

Hello, I have completed the changes for most of the campaign and I have some updates. This will, unfortunantly, be mod of the imperial campaign. Unless someone has a method for turning it into a provincial campaign, it will be the main. I have made provincial campaigns before, but it won't show up on EB. Also, I currently need someone who will cabable of altering the recruitment list shortly. If you'd like to help, please pm me.

[Atraphoenix]

I can advice you ta take one of the celtic audi or arverni so you need no more torture on EDU. then mod descr_strat and expanded_bi.txt voila! you did it. you can check my file in my last mod that I have changed the name of pahlava as Askanian..
here is the link:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=117116

also try hax' faction switch mod it may give you the idea which files needed to change.
but the 3 basic ones are expanded_bi, strat, shared txt files in the text folder of EB Data folder.
P.S. BTW this flag is normally red and that belonged to early ottomans...

[Ghaust the Moor]

I can advice you ta take one of the celtic audi or arverni so you need no more torture on EDU. then mod descr_strat and expanded_bi.txt voila! you did it. you can check my file in my last mod that I have changed the name of pahlava as Askanian..
here is the link:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=117116

also try hax' faction switch mod it may give you the idea which files needed to change.
but the 3 basic ones are expanded_bi, strat, shared txt files in the text folder of EB Data folder.
P.S. BTW this flag is normally red and that belonged to early ottomans...

I fail to see what you mean.

[Atraphoenix]

I fail to see what you mean.

this is the full text for renaming factions :

do not forget expanded.txt is not used by EB. EB used expanded_BI.txt

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

How To – Change the faction names

To change the faction names you will have to edit the following files in the Data\text folder:

strat.txt - Contains the victory/defeat messages
shared.txt - Contains the faction names themselves
expanded.txt - Contains the many names and strings associated with the faction.

First open up strat.txt.
When you open the files, the culture names should be listed at the top. Now search for:
Code:
{SMT_SHORT_VICTORY_ROMANS_BRUTII}
Listed below are the victory messages. Here, all you need to do to change the faction name, is find every reference to the faction you want to change the name of and change it. Note: You MUST NOT edit the names on the left in the curly brackets{}. Because of this, you should only use Find and Replace with great caution and certainly don’t click ‘Replace All’

Save and quit.

Now open shared.txt
The faction names should be listed at the top:
Code:
Text file converted with loc_parser
{ST_JULII} The House of Julii
{ST_BRUTII} The House of Brutii
{ST_SCIPII} The House of Scipii
{ST_SENATE} S.P.Q.R.
{ST_MACEDON} Macedon
{ST_EGYPT} Egypt
{ST_SELEUCID} The Seleucid Empire
{ST_CARTHAGE} Carthage
{ST_PARTHIA} Parthia
{ST_PONTUS} Pontus
{ST_GAULS} Gaul
{ST_GERMANS} Germania
{ST_BRITONS} Britannia
{ST_ARMENIA} Armenia
{ST_DACIA} Dacia
{ST_GREEK_CITIES} The Greek Cities
{ST_NUMIDIA} Numidia
{ST_SCYTHIA} Scythia
{ST_SPAIN} Spain
{ST_THRACE} Thrace
{ST_SLAVES} Rebels
To change a faction name, simply change the name on the right, again do not edit the names on the left

Extra Info: This is the only reference to the faction names in this file, though there is a reference to the culture names. Search for ‘{ST_CULTURE_ROMAN}’ to find it.

Now save and quit and open expanded.txt
As you can see, the file consists entirely of the messages associated with the factions. It takes a long time to edit them all. In this case you can use Find and Replace - Replace All, but you must be careful. To make sure you do not replace any of the names on the left you must add a space after the name. For example, to change the Seleucids to the Italians, I would Find and Replace: ‘Seleucid ’. Notice the space after Seleucid. Doing this should replace most of the names, but you will still have to edit the battle messages and the victory titles. These look like:

Battle messages:
Code:
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_JULII} Your forces attack an army of the Julii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_BRUTII} Your forces attack an army of the Brutii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_SCIPII} Your forces attack an army of the Scipii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_SENATE} Your forces attack an army of the Senate
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_MACEDON} Your forces attack an army of Macedon
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_EGYPT} Your forces attack an army of Egypt
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_SELEUCID} Your forces attack an army of the Seleucid Empire
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_CARTHAGE} Your forces attack an army of Carthage
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_PARTHIA} Your forces attack an army of Parthia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_PONTUS} Your forces attack an army of Pontus
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_GAUL} Your forces attack an army of Gaul
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_GERMAN} Your forces attack an army of Germania
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_BRITON} Your forces attack an army of Britannia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_ARMENIA} Your forces attack an army of Armenia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_DACIA} Your forces attack an army of Dacia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_GREEK} Your forces attack an army of the Greek Cities
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_NUMIDIA} Your forces attack an army of Numidia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_SCYTHIA} Your forces attack an army of Scythia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_SPAIN} Your forces attack an army of Spain
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_THRACE} Your forces attack an army of Thrace
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_ARMY_SLAVE} Your forces attack an army of Rebels
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_JULII} Your forces attack a navy of the Julii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_BRUTII} Your forces attack a navy of the Brutii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_SCIPII} Your forces attack a navy of the Scipii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_SENATE} Your forces attack a navy of the Senate
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_MACEDON} Your forces attack a navy of Macedon
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_EGYPT} Your forces attack a navy of Egypt
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_SELEUCID} Your forces attack a navy of the Seleucid Empire
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_CARTHAGE} Your forces attack a navy of Carthage
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_PARTHIA} Your forces attack a navy of Parthia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_PONTUS} Your forces attack a navy of Pontus
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_GAUL} Your forces attack a navy of Gaul
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_GERMAN} Your forces attack a navy of Germania
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_BRITON} Your forces attack a navy of Britannia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_ARMENIA} Your forces attack a navy of Armenia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_DACIA} Your forces attack a navy of Dacia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_GREEK} Your forces attack a navy of the Greek Cities
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_NUMIDIA} Your forces attack a navy of Numidia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_SCYTHIA} Your forces attack a navy of Scythia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_SPAIN} Your forces attack a navy of Spain
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_THRACE} Your forces attack a navy of Thrace
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACK_NAVY_SLAVE} Your forces attack a navy of Rebels
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_JULII} Your forces ambush an army of the Julii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_BRUTII} Your forces ambush an army of the Brutii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_SCIPII} Your forces ambush an army of the Scipii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_SENATE} Your forces ambush an army of the Senate
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_MACEDON} Your forces ambush an army of Macedon
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_EGYPT} Your forces ambush an army of Egypt
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_SELEUCID} Your forces ambush an army of the Seleucid Empire
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_CARTHAGE} Your forces ambush an army of Carthage
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_PARTHIA} Your forces ambush an army of Parthia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_PONTUS} Your forces ambush an army of Pontus
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_GAUL} Your forces ambush an army of Gaul
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_GERMAN} Your forces ambush an army of Germania
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_BRITON} Your forces ambush an army of Britannia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_ARMENIA} Your forces ambush an army of Armenia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_DACIA} Your forces ambush an army of Dacia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_GREEK} Your forces ambush an army of the Greek Cities
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_NUMIDIA} Your forces ambush an army of Numidia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_SCYTHIA} Your forces ambush an army of Scythia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_SPAIN} Your forces ambush an army of Spain
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_THRACE} Your forces ambush an army of Thrace
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSH_ARMY_SLAVE} Your forces ambush an army of Rebels
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_JULII} Your forces are attacked by an army of the Julii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_BRUTII} Your forces are attacked by an army of the Brutii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_SCIPII} Your forces are attacked by an army of the Scipii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_SENATE} Your forces are attacked by an army of the Senate
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_MACEDON} Your forces are attacked by an army of Macedon
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_EGYPT} Your forces are attacked by an army of Egypt
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_SELEUCID} Your forces are attacked by an army of the Seleucid Empire
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_CARTHAGE} Your forces are attacked by an army of Carthage
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_PARTHIA} Your forces are attacked by an army of Parthia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_PONTUS} Your forces are attacked by an army of Pontus
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_GAUL} Your forces are attacked by an army of Gaul
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_GERMAN} Your forces are attacked by an army of Germania
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_BRITON} Your forces are attacked by an army of Britannia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_ARMENIA} Your forces are attacked by an army of Armenia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_DACIA} Your forces are attacked by an army of Dacia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_GREEK} Your forces are attacked by an army of the Greek Cities
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_NUMIDIA} Your forces are attacked by an army of Numidia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_SCYTHIA} Your forces are attacked by an army of Scythia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_SPAIN} Your forces are attacked by an army of Spain
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_THRACE} Your forces are attacked by an army of Thrace
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_ARMY_SLAVE} Your forces are attacked by an army of Rebels
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_JULII} Your forces are attacked by a navy of the Julii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_BRUTII} Your forces are attacked by a navy of the Brutii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_SCIPII} Your forces are attacked by a navy of the Scipii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_SENATE} Your forces are attacked by a navy of the Senate
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_MACEDON} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Macedon
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_EGYPT} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Egypt
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_SELEUCID} Your forces are attacked by a navy of the Seleucid Empire
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_CARTHAGE} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Carthage
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_PARTHIA} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Parthia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_PONTUS} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Pontus
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_GAUL} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Gaul
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_GERMAN} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Germania
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_BRITON} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Britannia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_ARMENIA} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Armenia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_DACIA} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Dacia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_GREEK} Your forces are attacked by a navy of the Greek Cities
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_NUMIDIA} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Numidia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_SCYTHIA} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Scythia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_SPAIN} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Spain
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_THRACE} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Thrace
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_ATTACKED_NAVY_SLAVE} Your forces are attacked by a navy of Rebels
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_JULII} Your forces are ambushed by an army of the Julii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_BRUTII} Your forces are ambushed by an army of the Brutii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_SCIPII} Your forces are ambushed by an army of the Scipii faction
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_SENATE} Your forces are ambushed by an army of the Senate
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_MACEDON} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Macedon
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_EGYPT} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Egypt
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_SELEUCID} Your forces are ambushed by an army of the Seleucid Empire
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_CARTHAGE} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Carthage
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_PARTHIA} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Parthia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_PONTUS} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Pontus
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_GAUL} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Gaul
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_GERMAN} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Germania
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_BRITON} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Britannia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_ARMENIA} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Armenia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_DACIA} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Dacia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_GREEK} Your forces are ambushed by an army of the Greek Cities
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_NUMIDIA} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Numidia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_SCYTHIA} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Scythia
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_SPAIN} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Spain
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_THRACE} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Thrace
{EMT_YOUR_FORCES_AMBUSHED_ARMY_SLAVE} Your forces are ambushed by an army of Rebels
Victory titles
Code:
{EMT_VICTORY_JULII} The House of Julii are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_BRUTII} The House of Brutii are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_SCIPII} The House of Scipii are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_SENATE} The Senate and People of Rome are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_MACEDON} The Macedonians Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_EGYPT} The Egyptians are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_SELEUCID} The Seleucids are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_CARTHAGE} The Carthaginians are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_PARTHIA} The Parthians are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_PONTUS} The Pontic are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_GAUL} The Gauls are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_GERMAN} The German are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_BRITON} The Britons are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_ARMENIA} The Armenians are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_DACIA} The Dacians are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_GREEK} The Greek are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_NUMIDIA} The Numidians are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_SCYTHIA} The Scythians are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_SPAIN} The Spanish are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_THRACE} The Thracians are Victorious
{EMT_VICTORY_SLAVE} The Rebels are Victorious
Once you have edited all this, you have changed every aspect of a faction name.