Swords in the Moon [Concluded]

[KukriKhan]

A "speak-up!" vote, before I go to the day-job:

vote: Banquo'sGhost

And I agree, we have to keep open minds on the killing 'patterns', if there are any. I think using an hour-device in the write-ups to rpovide clues would be too complicated a mechanic to maintain for any host, so I disregard its significance.

At this mid-game stage, we need to get everybody to contribute (post), so we can adequately scrutinize their motives. So Dear Lurkers: step out of the shadows and write something... anything, so we don't kill you by accident.

[Rhyfelwyr]

(1) Active enough to get in a vote every day phase, but has contributed pretty much nothing of use to the town.
(2) Was a 'pever' and went after LG for voting for a pever survivor of the pever massacre. It would be a reasonable strategy for a pever to think he would look innocent if he killed a large number of the others off.
(3) Voted for LG after LG was dead. This indicates that he's not paying attention to the thread and probably didn't even read the kill write-up. Why is he so active in voting if he's not actually paying attention to the game?

1. Well what am I supposed to do?
2. So what if I went with the pever joke... also I voted for LG because he tried to bandwagon me with the pevers just because of a OOC joke which is pointless for the tonw
3. I just forgot apologies all round etc

Now, stop trying to bandwagon me just because I am a noob at this.

Unvote: LittleGrizzly

Vote: TinCow

[Prince Cobra]

What is a Lurker?

A person who stays idle (WoG punishment)

A person who pretends to stay idle.

A person who reads daily but does not say a word (few words)

A person who votes or challenges without any explanation.

The groups beneath the first one can end like Sigurd. Guilty or not!

The solution: more posting, less problems!
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Have I forgotten anything?

[TinCow]

1. Well what am I supposed to do?
2. So what if I went with the pever joke... also I voted for LG because he tried to bandwagon me with the pevers just because of a OOC joke which is pointless for the tonw
3. I just forgot apologies all round etc

Now, stop trying to bandwagon me just because I am a noob at this.

Unvote: LittleGrizzly

Vote: TinCow

Bandwagon you? I'm the only person voting for you!

Since you're a self-proclaimed "noob" I'll help you out by letting you know that retaliatory voting is considered to be scummy by most players. It's a common reaction by inexperienced mafioso when they're put under pressure. You just made yourself look far more guilty.

[FactionHeir]

TC, how would the traitors not be killing in my classification? The traitors so far had 1 kill a night, classic samurai. The SK does his killing very differently from either Ninja and Traitors.

[TinCow]

TC, how would the traitors not be killing in my classification? The traitors so far had 1 kill a night, classic samurai. The SK does his killing very differently from either Ninja and Traitors.

Right, but if the messy killer is the serial killer, we've got a bizarre coincidence on N3. The 'SK' as we call him killed pevergreen. A SK would not be in communication with the ninjas or the traitors, which makes pevergreen's death on the night of the pever-slaughter a remarkable coincidence. What are the odds of the 'SK' going after pevergreen while one of the other factions (ninjas seem most likely) went after 2 of the other pevers?

[FactionHeir]

Slim, but why would one ninja of the 4 be completely different? And would a ninja really be that gory?

I think we are still in a stage of the game where its very difficult to determine whos is who especially because of the large number of inactives and the host's unwillingness to WoG non voters who have made at least 1 post since game start regardless of content. A detective result would be quite welcome too, though that seems to become increasingly unlikely.

If we do have a detective left though it would help if he could send his results to CA in the form of XYZ innocent/guilty without revealing his role if Andres allows. That would allow CA to direct the effort and tell who is innocent if one is to be lynched with that person to be protected at night.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

In taormina andres let us pick the kill methods, and for most of the game I made it look like the other mafia faction was still killing.

[TinCow]

Slim, but why would one ninja of the 4 be completely different? And would a ninja really be that gory?

I have no idea and I doubt it. This is why I'm cautious about making assumptions that will get us mentally locked into a SK scenario and prevent us from seeing another alternative. The evidence is too ambiguous to make an assumption either way. All we know for sure is that the messy killer is not someone we want to keep alive; we don't know whether he's solo or has a relationship of some kind with the ninjas or the traitors.

[FactionHeir]

In taormina andres let us pick the kill methods, and for most of the game I made it look like the other mafia faction was still killing.

OK who else was in Taormina who thus would know about this?

And maybe that explains the spelling error in the writeup?

[TinCow]

OK who else was in Taormina who thus would know about this?

And maybe that explains the spelling error in the writeup?

I was, and I was part of the dead mafia faction (Yakuza, was recruited on the same night Sigurd died). IIRC (without going back to look) the other mafia faction used swords or something like that on subsequent kills to make it look like the Yakuza were still alive.

[Prince Cobra]

Nominated: Voters

TosaInu: Sasaki, FactionHeir, White eyes, Beskar Total:4 v.
Tincow: YLC, Rhyfelwyr Total:2 votes
Rhyfelwyr: Tincow, Yoyoma 2v.
Yoyoma:Haudegen, Chympyang 2v.

Alphabetically:
Banquo's Ghost (BG) : Kukri 1v.
Beefy: Stephen Asen (SA) 1v.
Beskar: Husar 1v.
GH: Glenn 1v.
Sasaki:GH 1v.
Seamus: Kage 1v.




Challenges:

GH vs. TosaInu
Stephen Asen vs Beskar
White eyes vs. TosaInu
Beefy vs. GH
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Glenn vs Rhyfelwyr
YLC vs Tincow

Abstain: Death is yonder, A Very Super Market (aka AVSM); taka

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Check it for mistakes, please.
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Personal Comment: I really can not agree to lynch Tosa for "Hmm". Unless somebody has some more serious evidence? The same is for each samurai we decide to lynch.

[A Very Super Market]

Ack, you guys post too much.

Vote: Abstain

[taka]

i will continue to vote: abstain until i can free up some time

[FactionHeir]

Fos: taka for being active in other games but not bothering to read here and generally voting only abstain, maybe to keep himself alive?

[Kagemusha]

vote: Seamus. You seem to only post after each night a compilation on what has happened and after that disappear, while town only feels gratitude towards you. Seems like a great strategy to keep yourself under radar.

[Yoyoma1910]

Petals still fall
Silently in the night.
Fists address, in helpless anguish,
The wind;
Whose laughter quietly mocks,
Replacing the sound of success.

Sometimes, though,
Young serpents
Find the liquor,
And their own tail is bitten.

Vote:Rhyfelwyr

[Husar]

Vote: Beskar

I just have a rather bad gut feeling about him, somehow I find him acting weird.

[Chimpyang]

I think the Haiku master theory still has legs after the last post by yoyoma.

So Vote:Yoyoma1910

[Beskar]

Vote: TosaInu

I just have a rather bad gut feeling

You need a doctor and a nearby toilet for that, not be voting for me.

[Haudegen]

Petals still fall
Silently in the night.
Fists address, in helpless anguish,
The wind;
Whose laughter quietly mocks,
Replacing the sound of success.

Sometimes, though,
Young serpents
Find the liquor,
And their own tail is bitten.

Hmm... I´m not an English native speaker and interpreting English poetry isn´t exactly my hobby.

Does the above text contain anything other than a certain amount of sarcasm which seems to be directed at me?

[Yoyoma1910]

Thunder speaks loudly,
But the mountain hears only the rain.

[Prince Cobra]

Vote: TosaInu

Being my favourite opponent, would you care to explain your decision?

You need a doctor and a nearby toilet for that, not be voting for me.

Where is the toilet?

[Haudegen]

Thunder speaks loudly,
But the mountain hears only the rain.

I´ll be bold and take this as a "yes".

But this barbarian still doesn´t understand your words.

What are your thoughts about the game? Who do you suspect and why?

[Wishazu]

Vote:Rhyfelwyr I don`t want my reasoning to sound too lame but I basically agree with Tincows theory.

Also, tit for tat voting has been a pretty surefire giveaway in similar games i`ve played in the past on other forums. Claiming to be a noob and therefore incapable of being a clever baddie is even worse, in my experience anyway.

[Yoyoma1910]

When gazing at the stream,
One may see themselves.
But do not be fooled!
The water is not flesh:
It is but water.




In some regions,
Each wall is made of many stones
Set upon each other, interlocking,
To be strong and complete.
If a stone is removed from the wall,
Is it not then a different wall?
Does it stand as it did before?

[Peasant Phill]

Vote: Rhyfelwyr

As no other theory has emerged, I stay with my previous strategy of voting for a surviving Pever. As Rhyfelwyr has votes and YLC has none, my chance of eliminating a so called innocent Pever will be bigger if i voote for him.

[Wishazu]

Incidentally, if we manage to lynch a ninja or traitor, will we be informed of our success?

[AggonyDuck]

Vote: Yoyoma

[Gregoshi]

Vote: Yoyoma

It seems Yoyama's death would be poetic justice.