Evolution v Creationism

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 04-30-2009, 21:58

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

That is why we have science, science is not about what you believe, or even KNOW. Science is about what you can prove,

Prove that the world around you exists and is not an illusion please.

**Jolt** · 04-30-2009, 22:01

Evolution? Creationism? Nonsense! It is obvious that human beings descended from the British islands, which proves the superiority of their race!

**rasoforos** · 04-30-2009, 22:11

There must have been like 50 of these posts the past 7 years...if not more.

So I ll sit this one out because the dread of deja-vu is overwhelming.

P.S I have prehensile toes...

**Kadagar_AV** · 04-30-2009, 22:45

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Prove that the world around you exists and is not an illusion please.

Impossible as that leaves to few factors to work with.

Rhyfelwyr,

I'm not trying to prove creationism I'm just asking how strong the evidence for evolution is. In my head at least, its creationism v evolution, since creatonism is what I believe from a basic reading of the Bible, but I could think again if the evidence against it was overwhelming.

The evidence for evolution is strong enough for it to be seen as the only plausible theory.

However, why ask this question on a forum dedicated to a game? Sure there is where you get the best answer?

BBC and others have had some great programs lately, just watch them, judge for yourself.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 04-30-2009, 22:49

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

However, why ask this question on a forum dedicated to a game? Sure there is where you get the best answer?

This place is generally pretty good for getting level-headed responses. If I posted it on the Christian sites I use I would get very unreliable stuff, if I posted on the TWC or somewhere I would just get flamed.

I'm trying to find that Darwin series from the BBC on google video...

**Kadagar_AV** · 04-30-2009, 23:44

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

This place is generally pretty good for getting level-headed responses. If I posted it on the Christian sites I use I would get very unreliable stuff, if I posted on the TWC or somewhere I would just get flamed.

I'm trying to find that Darwin series from the BBC on google video...

Problem here is, none of us (I believe) is qualified to explain this to you.

This means that a failure to make you believe in evolution is due to OUR inability to explain the theory correctly, not because of the theory itself.

Get my point?

**Hax** · 05-01-2009, 00:15

So, don't tell me religious people never change their views, I will see what the Darwinist side has to offer, and I will consider if theistic evolution is possible (won't be becoming atheist though, sorry guys

).

Theistic evolution is possible. My father is a devout Muslim and is a biologist who accepts the theory of evolution.

/getsoutofthread

**Lemur** · 05-01-2009, 00:23

In fairness, biological evolution is a testable, disprovable theory. After over a hundred years of challenges and tests, it's still standing. All of modern biology is based on it. Reject evolution, and you might want to reject its products, such as antibiotics and most forms of modern medicine.

Creationism, on the other hand, is based on faith, and thus untestable. You cannot devise an empirical test to see whether or not the Creator made the world ten thousand years ago.

So yeah, although Kadgar has been a little ... forceful ... in his arguments, the man has a point. You cannot hold a legitimate debate between creationism and evolution, since they operate in entirely different spheres. It's like saying let's have a debate between physics and oil painting, or a footrace between thermodynamics and communion. Although evolution and creationism address the same issue ("Where did all of this stuff come from?") they are playing by entirely different rules.