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    Default Re: Evolution v Creationism

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Seamus Fermanagh, Oh, so now "God" created the Big Bang, huh?

    I hope you were sarcastic in that post.

    . . .

    May I ask you, when WILL the church wave the white flag? Say we get scientifical answer to the big bang, will you have some other outpost to hide behind?

    . . .

    Where is your next retreat?

    "Ok, so science explained everything beyond the big bang, but still hasn't explored all dimensions. God is in one of these dimensions, I ASSURE YOU!".
    I can't speak for Seamus, but personally I think this line of argument is irrelevant. Retreating to a 'God of the Gaps' mentality is silly, but the argument that it's either God or science is a false dilemma. In my personal belief, God is responsible for the creation of everything in the universe. Science is a vessel to better understand his methods and perhaps learn something transcendent in the process.

    Did God create the universe? Sure. How? Well, let's study it and find out. Looks like it may have been through some kind of 'Big Bang.' Did God create humans? Sure. How? Well, let's study life and find out. Looks like it may have been through divergent evolution, probably powered by natural selection. Etc.

    A person can choose to believe in God (any variety), or not to believe. That's a matter of faith, to be neither proved or disproven by scientific inquiry. Regardless of their faith, however, science is still the place to turn for explanations about the natural world. (edit: after all, revelation is filtered through all sorts of fallible humans. The natural world is created directly by God, the Bible only indirectly. I'll put my trust in the primary source, and look to the secondary sources for interpretation and opinion, as in any manner of study)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
    the criticism is not with people who make the Bible adhere to science, it's people who make science adhere to the Bible.
    Unfortunately, as you point out, religious people are even more prone to the above false dilemma than nonreligious types.

    Ajax
    Last edited by ajaxfetish; 05-05-2009 at 23:18.

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