Quote Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again View Post
You missed my point entirely ATPG. Jews do not flaunt their Judaism like gays flaunt their gayness. My point isn't whether it is right or wrong, but simply that people who think it is evil make a big deal about it because gay make such a big deal about themselves. I was not arguing for or against liking or disliking gays, simply saying that everyong who opposes them being secretly gay is hardly a satisfactory argument. I think the way gays flaunt themselves is a much more likely reason for there being so much anti-gay ferver.
I believe some Jews do flaunt their judaism, by wearing the skull caps and going to temple and wearing their hair a certain way and speaking the Yiddish and saying things like Mozel Tov. Some of them even wave the flag of Israel in their signature lines, or in support of Israel in front of their place of business. And by the way, most gays do not flaunt their gayness, because certain people AHEM make them feel unwelcome.

You know, those darn black people also make such a big deal about the equal rights, tolerance and acceptance of blacks, that if they would all just shut up and go away the world would be a better place, now wouldn't it?

So the reason you don't think gays deserve equal protections is because they insist on living their lives in an openly gay manner?

Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
None of that, act normal, don't impose, tada. But that seems to be rather hard for attention-whores and provocation-junkies. Tearing eachother apart in broad daylight where everybody can (must?) see it, that doesn't help at all. I am not going to respect someone who doesn't respect me. Ask me to respect them as a person, fine. Demanding respect for their sexual preference, get lost.
Straight people flaunt their sexuality much more than gay people do, because there is no majority of people who disapprove of it and condemn them for being Godless straights. The respect argument here is ludicrous, when you have rappers making music (?) videos involving barely clothed women, with drug-related, gang-related, money-obsessed, violent, sexist content, that is much more offensive to me than a man who speaks with a lisp and wears a pink shirt that says "We're here and we're queer." Straight people, historically, have zero respect for gays. So now, you're arguing since they don't automatically respect your wishes and just hide in the closet all the time, it is their own fault that the world hates them? Pardon but they've been in the closet for untold generations. They just want equal rights.

You can hate them and disrespect them all you want, so be it. It's a free country and if you want to judge them as being inferior or unworthy of your respect, feel free to do so, and I can do the same for you, and have a lot more reason to do so. But if you advocate against their equal rights, and you don't have an argument as to why, then why are you having the discussion? If the bottom line is that queers make you uncomfortable, (or if blacks make you uncomfortable, or if Jews make you uncomfortable, or if Democrats or Republicans make you uncomfortable, or if Midgets make you uncomfortable...) you know, suck it up or move to a homogenous and intolerant culture like, say, North Korea. You'll fit right in.