Originally Posted by
Cultured Drizzt fan:
I can trade Tea!!!!! 
nobody want any tea? come on you all like it!
Tea isn't Britain's "Good" (need a better name

)

- that falls under normal economy boosting and cultural subversion.
Originally Posted by A Very Super Market:
I will take your goods, then trade them back to you! :D
Wait till you see your trade "good"
Greyblades 23:38 18/05/09
Originally Posted by
YLC:
If Greyblades hasn't a system already 
I don't.
I had origionaly planned that this would be a military/political game with each player as war leaders with the economy sorting itself out while the players had fun. Mainly I didn't have it originally because an economy would mean tripling the workload and I would have less less fun doing write ups and comparing tactics to see who wins.

I don't know why but making inventive write ups seems more fun to me than actually playing Mafia.
Although seeing as he's put so much thought into it I guess that we can put it in there. But your sorting it out!
but...... Tea is what makes the world go around....... I like tea........
Originally Posted by
Greyblades:
I don't.
I had originally planned that this would be a military game with each player as war leaders with the economy sorting itself out while the players had fun. Mainly I didn't have it originally because an economy would mean tripling the workload and I would have less less fun doing write ups and comparing tactics to see who wins.
I don't know why but making inventive write ups seems more fun to me than actually playing Mafia.
Although seeing as he's put so much thought into it I guess that we can put it in there. But your sorting it out!
Bah, good practice for my more indepth and longer running game
Greyblades, you can handle everything after it goes through my numbers crunching - I am the machine, you are the interpreter.
Of course, you will have to handle the Espionage and Sabotage numbers and orders - being a player means I shouldn't know about what I shouldn't know.
Greyblades 23:51 18/05/09
That is a given.
Hmph, seems that my PC is needing yet again a new motherboad because I forgot to vacuume the fans and a piece of metal (dont know what) got in and damaged the innards. Sorry if I cant have the map finalised until next week but I dont want to risk this damn fedora laptop exploding from trying to run photoshop.
Of course Portugal is not communist? How could a country that was always based upon and instigated the high disparity of social and economical differences among its population ever become communist? It is against us! Our poor would never do anything to the rich! It has always been so! How could we change anything?
In any case, I shall trade with the USSR or any other country on those fair trade deals. Vast amount of resources for us for our moral support (Which is the best thing you could ever get in the entire world) and some important resources.
Curiously, not only does Britain produce little to no tea (It consumes it. Doesn't produce it. It'd be the same as saying that the USA could export large amounts of oil, just become they consume large amounts of it), but tea was introduced by who? (English Queen of the Portuguese Royal House - Catarina/Catherine de Bragança) Hehe, it always comes back to us.
I am going to stop talking before I succeed in alienating all of my allies.


(I know Britain doesn't produce tea, but I wasn't sure what Britain's good would be soooooo yeah.)
I wasnt sure why you were talking about the USSR as your trading partner when YLC is the USA.
Greyblades 00:17 19/05/09
SAS training? Best special forces in the world are trained by them and your allies could get an increase in Covert ops efficiency.
In the end its down to YLC.
Originally Posted by
YLC:
Lucky you - EVERYONE hates me 
I don't... Hail the president...Cough Hiroshima... and everything sir!!
Originally Posted by Jolt:
Of course Portugal is not communist? How could a country that was always based upon and instigated the high disparity of social and economical differences among its population ever become communist? It is against us! Our poor would never do anything to the rich! It has always been so! How could we change anything?
In any case, I shall trade with the USSR or any other country on those fair trade deals. Vast amount of resources for us for our moral support (Which is the best thing you could ever get in the entire world) and some important resources.
Curiously, not only does Britain produce little to no tea (It consumes it. Doesn't produce it. It'd be the same as saying that the USA could export large amounts of oil, just become they consume large amounts of it), but tea was introduced by who? (English Queen of the Portuguese Royal House - Catarina/Catherine de Bragança) Hehe, it always comes back to us.
The US does export large amounts of oil...and it produces enough to satisfy 2/3rds of the USA's needs. We do in fact, export it, and if I am not mistaken, to countries where they end up getting raided by Somalians...
I can't disclose each persons Trade Good unless they specifically do so themselves, I mean I am not sure if I should - I am still working on one for each country. This is going to sound stupid, but does anyone have a current list of those taken?
Greyblades 01:23 19/05/09
Well I think its about time to actually come up with a rule
*Ahem*
The espionage system
The most versatile method of war, Each turn you can ask for your secret services to concentrate on doing one fact finding mission, be it finding where the enemy is keeping its ICBN's or what cologne their chief of staff is using either way they will attempt to find out. Or you could just tell them to search for enemy spies which will add a bonus on to the spycatch score(I'll tell you later).
Each country will gain 2 ratings: espionage efficiency(1 to 5) and loyalty of population(-2 to 3).
Espionage efficiency is the main reference I will use to determine what dice roll you must get to succeed; If your score is 1 you will have to get a 6, if your score is five its a 2+, etc.
The country loyalty score is the modifier that tells me how much chance that your citizens will report enemy spies if they find them I.E. how many points are taken off of the dice roll. A need score of 2+ can be converted to a 5+ by having a population happy enough to give you a score of 3 in the same way that a score of 3+ can be converted to a 2+ by a disgruntled and rebellious population.
I hope this makes sense. If you see a problem with this tell me so it can be corrected before I put it onto the OP.
Can you tell me what will be "the" Trade Good of Lieschtenstein?
Originally Posted by Jolt:
Can you tell me what will be "the" Trade Good of Liechtenstein?
Umm...miniaturization? Not sure if anyone is playing Liechtenstein...
Could other powers become nuclear nations if they get the supplies from lets say USSR and USA?
Askthepizzaguy 03:25 19/05/09
Or China...
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
Or China...
...if you like them being made out of cheap plastic, crafted in sweatshops by children, and break at the slightest provocation.
All in good fun my Oriental friend - if you want Quality, you buy American.
Originally Posted by
YLC:
...if you like them being made out of cheap plastic, crafted in sweatshops by children, and break at the slightest provocation.
All in good fun my Oriental friend - if you want Quality, you buy American.
What about made in Japan
Askthepizzaguy 04:36 19/05/09
Since you get most of your stuff from China and Japan, maybe you don't want to make us angry...
Originally Posted by
Askthepizzaguy:
Since you get most of your stuff from China and Japan, maybe you don't want to make us angry... 
Actually, we get our stuff from Taiwan, Indonesia, and Japan, and some South Korean stuff as well.
From
Taiwan, not from
China.
Originally Posted by
Askthepizzaguy:
Since you get most of your stuff from China and Japan, maybe you don't want to make us angry... 
I'm not sure which side I should go on...
Historical (America), My friends fantasy (East Asia alliance) or..... Complete independence
Originally Posted by
Beefy187:
I'm not sure which side I should go on...
Historical (America), My friends fantasy (East Asia alliance) or..... Complete independence 
It's up to you my friend - just remember, you won;t have things such as anime, freedom of press, religion, any form of accepted intelligentia, would have to start eating, breathing, and being Chinese - unless you dominate them first.
Askthepizzaguy 04:44 19/05/09
Oh come on, now, Beefy... we're your closest relatives in China. We care about you more than the United States... they won't even let you have a military.
We forgive you for World War II, that was decades ago. let's be friends.
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
Oh come on, now, Beefy... we're your closest relatives in China. We care about you more than the United States... they won't even let you have a military.
We forgive you for World War II, that was decades ago. let's be friends.
He's a terrible lair, we have and always will have your best interests at heart. Indeed, your restricted in using your military in an arbitrary and reckless way - this shows intelligence and forsight on your part, but it does not restrict your ability to defend yourselves or use it for good purposes. And we never imposed this upon you, it was you, your own people, who wrote that into law.
The US has always and will continue to think of Japan as one of it's closest friends.
Askthepizzaguy 04:57 19/05/09
We never dropped a nuke on you, Japan. Surely you agree that Western Imperialism is not something we need in Asia. We both fought very hard to get these invaders out of our lands.
I see this game turning into something from Code Geass. Though, I think there should make it so the world can take a separate path. For example, African Union (Africa under the control of one, and builds itself up to become a force) same with for example an Asian and Pacific Union (China, Japan, etc), United Arabian States (or similar. Middle East blocking together) and European Union, etc.
I the Islamic Republic of Iran will be announcing planned cooperation with other Middle Eastern nations based on the holy words of Allah himself to keep morality and decency in our society from the Judeo-Christian Empire and that of the God-Forsaken communists. (The game hasn't started yet, still sign up's, isn't it? ^^;)
Declares war on Iran
Askthepizzaguy 05:09 19/05/09
If this is just a signup thread, as it should be, we don't need to update the original post. But when the game starts, please post all the rules, updated map, players and their countries and stated alliances in the OP so I don't lose my mind and fire off a nuke just to keep things interesting.
I need to borrow some nukes ATMG. I'll need them for my evil plots against somebody.
Askthepizzaguy 05:18 19/05/09
What??? This is incredible. This is unprecedented. This is an outrage. There is absolutely no way the Chinese government will arm you with nukes. Not even if you send us a private message to discuss things using unofficial channels.
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