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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    Great preview.
    The description of the skirmishers sounds as if their melee weapon will be knives instead of spears (like in EB I). Also, will the skirmisher cavalry use overhand spears?
    Yes, knives it is. And the cavalry retains a javelin for combat as it says in the description.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens
    Edit: you posted while I was typing my answer, but I do think the current unit is too Roman-like for the early Numidians.
    The intent is to recreate the early infantry which was inspired by the swords and oval shields used in Africa. The more scutum looking thureos shield is inspired by Carthage at this time, not only with its own use of the shield type, but also with the use of the shield type by foreign mercenaries such as Celts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucefalo
    One thing i missed thought, is to see some of these numidian hats that the archers are supposed to have, like the ones of the rtw numidian archers.
    Actually that was a slight mis-communication, the hat will be there eventually.
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    Looks great, and should add a lot of flavour to north Africa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanit View Post
    The intent is to recreate the early infantry which was inspired by the swords and oval shields used in Africa. The more scutum looking thureos shield is inspired by Carthage at this time, not only with its own use of the shield type, but also with the use of the shield type by foreign mercenaries such as Celts.
    If these are early infantry, why do their shields have round bosses which only appeared around the 2nd c. BC? I would think that the thureos would have been the primary shield in use at this time, given its popularity among the Carthaginians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeinPanzer View Post
    Looks great, and should add a lot of flavour to north Africa.



    If these are early infantry, why do their shields have round bosses which only appeared around the 2nd c. BC? I would think that the thureos would have been the primary shield in use at this time, given its popularity among the Carthaginians.
    That unit was originally supposed to be a later addition to the numidian army, however this was changed after the model was created. Eventually the design of the shields will change (and there will more oval shields present), but at the moment we've had to move on.

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    I remember someone from the team (Moros IIRC) writing that there will be a new nomad faction in EB2 different from the current EB1 and that will be his favourite, now we know which.
    Great preview and looking forward to see their full unit rooster.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Andronikos View Post
    I remember someone from the team (Moros IIRC) writing that there will be a new nomad faction in EB2 different from the current EB1 and that will be his favourite, now we know which.
    Great preview and looking forward to see their full unit rooster.
    I NEVER said there would be ONE new nomad faction now did I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moros View Post
    I NEVER said there would be ONE new nomad faction now did I?
    So youre saying that you never said that There would be not just ONE ?




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    Wow, this is a great preview! Thanks to the EB team for their hard work.

    And how do pronounce the native name of the Numidian noble cavalry? And would it be better to have the Saka use the Eastern culture instead of the Steppe culture? So when the Saka settle and take settled lands the settlement will look settled and their steppe lands will look nomadic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanit View Post
    Actually that was a slight mis-communication, the hat will be there eventually.
    Thanks for the quick answer. After playing EB i can´t imagine numidian archers without their cool hats

    Also, i am amazed at how realistic looking the units of EB II will look like, as it was a sort of history documental instead of a video game. I must put my numidian hat off
    Last edited by Bucefalo; 05-29-2009 at 12:58.

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    Great preview!

    I wonder whether MTW allows to have several bodies, depending on the faction/unit? Imagine what giant, fat, rough Gauls, Massylians and other barbarian elite warriors would do to less 'bodybuilded' levies... Maybe the extra body mass and muscles could somehow represent age differentiations?
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    This will make Sicily a whole lot easier for me to take! Does this mean the Romans/Carthaginians will be able to train more Numidian unit types if they built an allied gov't in Siga?

    And what will their economy start out as? Will they have a stable econ at the start or more of Saba's case of ending up in debt on the 2nd turn?

    And lastly, will they have any sorts of reforms? I guessing they'll have a Roman type reform.

    Oh and great job!
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    So cool guys! This really is going to be worth waiting for!
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