The EU election thread

[Meneldil]

Being religious or monarchist is far-right? Is anything that isn't centre-right far-right? They are right-wing to be sure, but if they are far-right then the term far-right is being thrown around far too easily.

Being reactionary is as far as I know, being far-right.
Now, monarchists and religious nut-jobs might be not considered pretty reactionary in some countries (and I feel sorry for those countries), but in France, where 80% of the population don't give a crap about religion, support abortion, and where the Republic is the basis of all our political and social culture (and furthermore, where every movement or party that opposed the republic happilly and hastily worked for the nazis in 1940), yeah, they are pretty far-right, like *FAR*-right.
I guess that might be hard to understand for someone who has little knowledge of the french political life and history, but heh :-/ I also guess some people could say I'm biased when calling some elements of the majority far-right, but monarchists and people who want masses in latin ? Come one.

The Front National, the mainstream far-right party, also rejects the republic, but is more vocal about immigration and capitalism. The Movement for France is on the other hand, more vocal about religious values than about immigration (though it often complains about the evil jewish religion and islam being imposed on good, faithful catholics).

End of clarification.

I for one, salute the victory of the pirate party. I cannot stand these singers and other so-called artists (lol) who keep complaining when people download their work. If they weren't trying to rip people off, illegal downloading wouldn't be as widespread. Sarkozy and his government deserve to be kicked out of power only for the laws they're trying to pass regarding downloading.

CA, I would agree there, except that I personnally think the appeal to green parties is fueled not in part, but mainly or entirely by frustration with the mainstream system. Most people don't really care about the ecological aspect. Thing is, traditional left (socialists) failed repeatedly, and far-left (communists, trosksysts) is not as attractive as it used to do, because its leaders don't offer anything but complainings.
I find it kind of saddening though. I can't see a french political spectrum without a living Socialist Party (the party was created in 1905). We already lost our Radical Party, and I don't think the Greens will be as attached to our republican values than the socialists or the radicals were.