16 y old "Seen the Elephant, Legendary commander, and Great Conqueror"

[Darth Revan]

Thank you for reopening the thread & deleting the bad content......

There are two quotes of bad content remaining......one is just above my previous post.....

I am happy to know that there are good people out here........

EDIT : Its been deleted.......Thanks again for your timely intervention......

Now, all we got to find whether cute wolf's 16 y old faction leader is a bug or not.......

[Maion Maroneios]

Indeed, thank you for the just action.

Maion

[Irishmafia2020]

I've heard of this happening before... apparently it is a well known bug that anyone reaching the age of 120 becomes 16 again. The way to deal with it is simply to kill your 119 year old's off in combat I suppose, although i have never personally had anyone last past 101 or so...

[Cute Wolf]

The death seems so random after 60++ years old.. What's the qualification that a FM meets their death in RTW.exe?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Random, as I already said. There's an age after which they have a random chance to die.

[Duguntz]

Cutewolf, damn, you got the best gen ever possible at 16 years old! KEEP HIM! cheat? maybe, i confess, but so cool! unfortunatly, as all my FM fight in first line WITHOUT ANY EXCEPTION (apart for those with the coward trait... they're not worthy to die in battle for a sweboz) well... not a lot reach the age of 50, and if he does, he's a super ubber warmonger on the last level of that trait (yeah, the one that gives a miriad of bad trait, but makes you like a god on the battlefield!) and most die in battle... wich I don't mind because it's glorious! so cute Wolf... YOU HAVE THAT UBBER GEN worthy of a sweboz! he's of corse, worth a second life, generously offered by the gods!

[Cute Wolf]

@ Dugundiz
I dont know how to "cheat" and get more than 120 y old.... anyone with any clue how to control a FM's life and death would be great, ut that was completely random thing...
Your FM's gonna die in battle? poor thing... even when I play sweboz, the only reason that they die in a battle was my recklessness... (or their unusefulness), that's right a good general lead his men from the front, but lead his men against gaesatae is suicide, and lead his men to take frontal charge against phalanx is completely epic failure...

[Duguntz]

Lol! funny thing that most people on that forum thinks that I just throw my men against pike wall! It's silly! In fact i did it once and it was because I was boxed (in MP) and I had no other choice than trying my luck or dying without fighting!!! But I'm not a tactician as bad as to throw men away! neither I throw my FM on gaesate! Gaesate, I fight them bravely, with courage... from an archer range and a lot of amunition! Fighting with my gen on the first line dosen't mean i'll throw him on an elite unit with AP bonus!!!! but, of corse, on the first line, he's got more chances to be surrounded, and in those moments, dies in the glory of battle! but in all campains i did, although with dying rate surely higher than all those Roman and Greek administrators, I always had more than enough FMs!!!

[Ghaust the Moor]

That is a cool bug man. I would be so happy. Heheh

[Darth Revan]

That is a cool bug man. I would be so happy. Heheh

Does anyone else has also got the same bug ??????
I've just started a new Macedon campaign in EAEM....so I can't say whether I'll encounter it or not......

[Cute Wolf]

actually it was very rare one...

[alatar]

I got it once, though not in EB. In Fourth Age total war (BI.exe) you start with a 90 year old, and he was lucky enough to live to 120 and got reset.

Like previous people have said, it is just luck that someone lives to 120.

[Xurr]

The death seems so random after 60++ years old.. What's the qualification that a FM meets their death in RTW.exe?

That's just it at the beginning of each turn there is a random chance that a 60+ character will die. So if one does die you can quit and reload the turn and get a different result for the same character. Theoretically you can keep a character from dying indefinitely by simply reloading turns that he dies in.

[Hax]

50+ character, actually.

[johnhughthom]

Is there any way of changing that threshold, or is it hardcoded?

[Havok.]

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wtf lol?

[johnhughthom]

You don't want to know.

[Aemilius Paulus]

You don't want to know.

I do. Someone please PM me *grin*.

Well, cannot blame me for being curious... Interesting how the instigator got a two-day vacation. Mod forums do not normally feature such moderation.

[johnhughthom]

It was simply a very graphic account of what he would do to a sixteen year old girl.

[Andy1984]

Lol! funny thing that most people on that forum thinks that I just throw my men against pike wall! It's silly! In fact i did it once and it was because I was boxed (in MP) and I had no other choice than trying my luck or dying without fighting!!! But I'm not a tactician as bad as to throw men away! neither I throw my FM on gaesate! Gaesate, I fight them bravely, with courage... from an archer range and a lot of amunition! Fighting with my gen on the first line dosen't mean i'll throw him on an elite unit with AP bonus!!!! but, of corse, on the first line, he's got more chances to be surrounded, and in those moments, dies in the glory of battle! but in all campains i did, although with dying rate surely higher than all those Roman and Greek administrators, I always had more than enough FMs!!!

Funny thing is, I hardly ever loose a FM in battle. I admit I love heavy cavalry generals, while I particularly despise Sweboz for that reason. But really loosing a FM in battle without having him sent on a suicide mission, that happens maybe once or twice in a campaign. I guess I use my generals the coward's way, which is ok to me and my FM's.

My love for my FM's is probably also the reason why I try not to ship them over the seas. Still, I never had one that lived up to a hundred years, for which I wish to blame these AI-assassins.

[antisocialmunky]

It was simply a very graphic account of what he would do to a sixteen year old girl.

Some retard 10 year old that wanted to sound like a pedophile.

http://koti.phnet.fi/jukhai/Dystopia/pedobear05.jpg

[Duguntz]

Funny thing is, I hardly ever loose a FM in battle. I admit I love heavy cavalry generals, while I particularly despise Sweboz for that reason. But really loosing a FM in battle without having him sent on a suicide mission, that happens maybe once or twice in a campaign. I guess I use my generals the coward's way, which is ok to me and my FM's.

My love for my FM's is probably also the reason why I try not to ship them over the seas. Still, I never had one that lived up to a hundred years, for which I wish to blame these damned assassins.

It's true, that with Sweboz, it's a different use of your general, as He's on foot, and, although a real killing machine, for isn't the equal of spartans, also on foot... But for the sake of roleplay, all my FMs MUST fight in first rank, although it's more dangerous, but prestige, glory, honor and even nobility, was aquiried, and kept, only by deeds on the battlefield, and not as much by bloodline, as, let say, more civilised people. I also love my FMs and i like really much to follow them in their evolution of traits, and play them according to them (like... not engaging him in battle when he's got the ''coward'' trait) But with all the battle experience they get in that way, it's generally hard to kill one of my FM, and impossible to rout the army because of all the moral he gives to his troops. Of corse, i've always let's say, 3 FM thgat I keep for my rich cities, so they, only, get good managment profile... still, i don't know how to roleplay them, as they're not cowards, but i'd not take the risk to send them in battle, as, with the ''mighty'' sweboz economy, only those High ranked management men gives me income!

[Macilrille]

Since the thread is now back on topic (stupid twat, I am the most jaded person here, no need for amateur explicits, there is a time for anything and the EB forum is not for such amateurish spoutings. I guess he was drunk).

Tacitus says, "In the day of battle, it is scandalous to the Prince to be surpassed in
feats of bravery, scandalous to his followers to fail in matching the
bravery of the Prince. But it is infamy during life, and indelible
reproach, to return alive from a battle where their Prince was slain.
To preserve their Prince, to defend him, and to ascribe to his glory all
their own valorous deeds, is the sum and most sacred part of their oath.
The Princes fight for victory; for the Prince his followers fight."

So Dugunz does play it right.

Archeology tells us that this was mostly the case in the west part of Germania, including Jutland. While in the eastern parts the warrior role was not as important, including Sjælland.

[athanaric]

It's true, that with Sweboz, it's a different use of your general, as He's on foot, and, although a real killing machine, for isn't the equal of spartans, also on foot...

Actually, Swêboz FMs got 18 morale, which is 1 point more than Spartans; plus, they're better vs. infantry. They make excellent assault troops (especially in early game), perfectly suited for taking and holding gates of wooden walls (don't use them on stone walls because your general has an odd habit of jumping off the wall, as I discovered, much to my dismay, when playing Saba). In this assault role, they are even better than KH generals (who have no swords) and Sabaean generals (who have no banner-bearer, which leaves your general more exposed to enemy fire).

Of corse, i've always let's say, 3 FM thgat I keep for my rich cities, so they, only, get good managment profile... still, i don't know how to roleplay them, as they're not cowards, but i'd not take the risk to send them in battle, as, with the ''mighty'' sweboz economy, only those High ranked management men gives me income!

Would you recommend Swêboz FMs governing (all kinds of) cities? I'm asking because I often wondered if they are any good for governing at all. I hate it when my governors become useless drunkards and ruin my economy, which happens quite a few times with Swêboz.

P.S.: sorry for commandeering the thread...

[Macilrille]

Sweboz + Tavern = paralytic trait as 36-year-old. I suspect it helps to not build the Tavern or "Tavern-slot-type-building".


Edited to add, as a "FM/General" of the "Vikingekampgruppen Ask", Sweboz subfaction I go to Iceland tomorrow for a Viking Market at a tavern built as a Viking stave church in the middle of Hafnafjordur (suburb of Reykjavik). In a week I and the others will be paralytic with drink, fighting and womanising ;-) I love Iceland and its people.

http://www.fjorukrain.is/fjorukrain/en/

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Guys, while we appreciate your support for the action taken I must insist you not swear either. It's against .Org rules.

[Duguntz]

Would you recommend Swêboz FMs governing (all kinds of) cities? I'm asking because I often wondered if they are any good for governing at all. I hate it when my governors become useless drunkards and ruin my economy, which happens quite a few times with Swêboz.

P.S.: sorry for commandeering the thread...

euh... what about... NO!!! I just don't have the choice, as I'm sweboz! they're excellent warrior, as you stated yourself, but, although, as everybody, when left a long time in a city, they get lots of management, it takes more time to get it... they ALL ,without exception, get the trait ''bored'' thent goes to another one, where the FM say that governing is for women and to give him a job fitted for him (that is, killing people!!!) that gives bad trait and lower the influence. then, as Macilrille told it, the first year, your general get ''likes a drink'' the second year, he gets ''drunkard'' and tnhe third, he gets ''paralitic''... No need to say that your gen. isn't very useful when paralitic! and... almost all of them get paralitic when left long time in cities... FMs who are always campaining, get most of them the ''drunkard'' trait, but hehe, afterall, they're Sweboz!!!

Macilrille... I don't know why, but I just hate you since... since your last post that you'll attend such an event... and I caaaaaaaannnnnn't... Let me get paralitic with you and your gang!

[Duguntz]

Since the thread is now back on topic (stupid twat, I am the most jaded person here, no need for amateur explicits, there is a time for anything and the EB forum is not for such amateurish spoutings. I guess he was drunk).

Tacitus says, "In the day of battle, it is scandalous to the Prince to be surpassed in
feats of bravery, scandalous to his followers to fail in matching the
bravery of the Prince. But it is infamy during life, and indelible
reproach, to return alive from a battle where their Prince was slain.
To preserve their Prince, to defend him, and to ascribe to his glory all
their own valorous deeds, is the sum and most sacred part of their oath.
The Princes fight for victory; for the Prince his followers fight."

So Dugunz does play it right.

Archeology tells us that this was mostly the case in the west part of Germania, including Jutland. While in the eastern parts the warrior role was not as important, including Sjælland.

Two thumbs up!!! and more if only I had more humbs!

[Cute Wolf]

But in my opinion, KH bodyguards is a bit better than sweboz one... at least they could hold a phalanx, while the Sweboz will get almost suicide holdin phalanx from the front.

When I play Sweboz, I capable to get huge management bonus on most of my FM, except the one (or two) who stay in the field since his 16th birthday. Even with tavern on, the key is just tax the people as high as possible, build economic tier buildings first, and never fight except in emergency (campaign was done by one or two general that was raised for that)

[Duguntz]

But in my opinion, KH bodyguards is a bit better than sweboz one... at least they could hold a phalanx, while the Sweboz will get almost suicide holdin phalanx from the front.

When I play Sweboz, I capable to get huge management bonus on most of my FM, except the one (or two) who stay in the field since his 16th birthday. Even with tavern on, the key is just tax the people as high as possible, build economic tier buildings first, and never fight except in emergency (campaign was done by one or two general that was raised for that)

Haaa.... worthless taxers and bankers... How can you leave more than 3 FM in cities? THEY'RE SWEBOZ!!! They drink in the skulls of their ennemies, they fight on the first line! and even, historically, Proto-Germanic ''title'' of nobility got aquired by deeds on the battlefield, acclamation of the people and heroic acts... well I've 3 FM in cities... 13 campaining!!! all with accurate (most as possible, of corse) army! and they're all warmonger trait... and half are restless warmonger! and when they do nothing, i just leave them with their army in ennemy territory, rolaplaying campain ravaging, an , of corse, once a year, I leave with 3 small armies mostly of levies, all commanded by FMs, sack settelements, kill everybody, destroy everything, and return, peacefully, to my country!!! Haaa! the pleasure to be sweboz!