Features the EB team wants to see in R2TW

**Satyros** · 06-26-2009, 20:33

I guess you're right .

But I still remember barely being able to restrain myself in anticipation of RTW ( well , part of this was because of the graphics I admit it ) , and the disappointment as soon as I played seriously the game .

Honestly , if it wasn't for EB and an overactive imagination ( plus various submods , addons etc e.g. Force diplomacy minimod ) I would have stopped playing years ago , and even though I bought the MTW2 I must say that after a while I got extremely bored and returned to the seemingly "worse" game of RTW ( --> EB ) . I haven;t found a mod like EB for MTW2 , hopefully EB2 will come and chamge that .

So right now I am hesitant to buy ETW , and still nag to fellow forum members about the A.I. occasionaly . Pitiful of my part , thanks for putting up with this , heh .

Well , the thing is that one less ETW copy sold isn't going to scare anyone ( and we all know that I will buy the game eventually don't we ? ) but I'm somewhat bitter about the fact that the minority of " hardcore " players' opinions is brushed aside , after all it is them among all customers that would point out any flaws in the game more accurately .

Off the box I enjoyed much more MTW and Shogun than MTW2 honestly . And I know I'm not alone .

Ok , ok I'll stop now .

And just to be on topic : RTW2 please come with a better A.I.

Satyros

**Alsatia** · 06-27-2009, 00:50

Originally Posted by Satyros

I guess you're right .

But I still remember barely being able to restrain myself in anticipation of RTW ( well , part of this was because of the graphics I admit it ) , and the disappointment as soon as I played seriously the game .

Honestly , if it wasn't for EB and an overactive imagination ( plus various submods , addons etc e.g. Force diplomacy minimod ) I would have stopped playing years ago , and even though I bought the MTW2 I must say that after a while I got extremely bored and returned to the seemingly "worse" game of RTW ( --> EB ) . I haven;t found a mod like EB for MTW2 , hopefully EB2 will come and chamge that .

So right now I am hesitant to buy ETW , and still nag to fellow forum members about the A.I. occasionaly . Pitiful of my part , thanks for putting up with this , heh .

Well , the thing is that one less ETW copy sold isn't going to scare anyone ( and we all know that I will buy the game eventually don't we ? ) but I'm somewhat bitter about the fact that the minority of " hardcore " players' opinions is brushed aside , after all it is them among all customers that would point out any flaws in the game more accurately .

Off the box I enjoyed much more MTW and Shogun than MTW2 honestly . And I know I'm not alone .

Ok , ok I'll stop now .

And just to be on topic : RTW2 please come with a better A.I.

Satyros

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Agreed.

**Satyros** · 06-27-2009, 01:49

Thank you for agreeing but this wasn't the purpose of my nagging , although appreciated . I seriously hope that someone will take notice of me and others like me and perhaps in future releases we would see ( at least ) more modable games ( if not awesome out of the box games ) . Because mods made by fans for fans often give to the above mentioned minority a better gaming experience ( " better " according to what is desired by the minority ) , so in a way everyone is happy ( or at least happier ) . To fortify my position in this I will point to the EB mod .

After all , the basic concept of STW and MTW was absolutely great for its time , took the whole genre leaps forward ( just compare it to other contemporary strategy games and see the abysmal difference in quality ) with the RTW and MTW2 titles giving us ( only ) the new campaign map ( other new features were more or less enhancements on previously existent features e.g. sieges ). So to me it seems that the series lost momentum , after the truly ground breaking first titles of the series which made possible the development of a hard core of dedicated fans along the years .

Perhaps this is why I complain , because I have had very high expectations .

.... and I just can't shut up about it eh ?

Sorry folks .

Satyros

P.S. : Is it that important ? Hell yeah ! "Gaming" for me means the TW series and Paradox games ( and the DoW titles for rather sentimental reasons ) over the past years . The super " kewl graphics " of the FPS genre ( for example ) don't mean anything to me , and good CRPG's are dead , long dead . So , yeah , it is that important . I love gaming .

**Alsatia** · 06-27-2009, 01:56

Wow, big rant.

The AI is incredibly stupid, those romans charged sraight into the front of my phalanxes with no flanking! If the EB team with CA made R2TW, I would buy it, no hesitiation. EB is the best mod, id rather say game that I ever had. Imagine EB with no limits due to CA's Capacity... The AI would (hopefully) be much better and historically orientated.. I can just dream and drool of the finished product....

**ray243** · 06-27-2009, 18:17

The best thing that would make tons of fans happy is CA allowing the fans to modify the AI code.

**Phalanx300** · 06-27-2009, 19:08

A good Hoplite shieldwall, and an option to link units to eachother so you can have a continious line which isn't breaking up in several pieces to attack individual units. This way Hoplites can turn around openings and flanks etc.

**Ludens** · 06-27-2009, 21:15

Originally Posted by ray243

The best thing that would make tons of fans happy is CA allowing the fans to modify the AI code.

That isn't up to CA. SEGA makes that decision. And SEGA, nor any other publisher, is going to allow fans to tamper with code, because would essentially give their programming techniques away to the competition. Apart from the potentially detrimental impact on sales, obviously.