Newb Looking for a shooter

**Beskar** · 07-02-2009, 01:33

I followed Stalker ages ago, but they cut out tons of the things I wanted in the game, such as the co-operative modes and all sorts. So I gave up on it and never looked at it again.

**Louis VI the Fat** · 07-02-2009, 04:13

Originally Posted by econ21

I don't normally like shooters, due to a mixture of taste and personal incompetence

Which suggests to me that it might be worthwhile to have a look at No One Lives Forever I and II. FPS's set in a spoof 1960s spy television series atmosphere. Brittanocentric, hilarious, and eminently payable. Simply made for people with only a passing interest in shooters, a sense of humour, and a love for some historical style and flair.

The gameplay is more stealth oriented than military.

Yes, they are old games, but so are STW and MTW. I'll keep plugging them for some time to come.

Stalker looks intruiging. I never imagened FPS's to have elements of business simulation games.

**frogbeastegg** · 07-02-2009, 17:23

Originally Posted by econ21

I don't normally like shooters, due to a mixture of taste and personal incompetence, but have recently gone back to Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl and greatly enjoyed it.

I keep on looking at Stalker; each time I get put off by the constant talk of a high difficulty. I'm not that great at shooters so the chances of me getting very far are nil. It's a shame, it has so many elements I'm pretty sure I would like.

**FactionHeir** · 07-02-2009, 18:59

OT: Eh, econ here again? wb!

**Xiahou** · 07-02-2009, 19:40

How about something like Doom3? It's got a creepy ambiance, but it's still a simple, straightforward shooter. Pretty cheap now too.

**Monk** · 07-02-2009, 19:46

Originally Posted by Xiahou

How about something like Doom3? It's got a creepy ambiance, but it's still a simple, straightforward shooter. Pretty cheap now too.

I know the DOOM purists are gonna hate me for saying this, but I thoroughly enjoyed Doom 3. It may not be in the run and gun style of its predecessors Doom and Doom II, yet it still offers up some genuinely fun (and some say) scary gameplay. The only downside to it for new comers is trying to juggle the flash-light and a weapon, since you cant have both equipped at the same time.

Still, i say it's worth the look.

Nice recommend Xiahou.

**econ21** · 07-02-2009, 23:27

Originally Posted by frogbeastegg

I keep on looking at Stalker; each time I get put off by the constant talk of a high difficulty. I'm not that great at shooters so the chances of me getting very far are nil.

I was thinking of you, frogbeastegg, when I returned to Stalker. First time round, I think my comments put you off the game, but second time, I have been much more favorably inclined towards it and I wondered if I had misled you. I think the first time, Stalker suffered with me from coming out at the same time as some other big game - M2TW I think it was - so I did not do it justice. Even then, I do recall my wife getting cross with me for playing it so much, so it must have been doing something for me even then. I gather the patches have helped it a lot, too.

I would not let the reported difficulty put you off. If you can play Mass Effect on the highest difficulty, you should have no problem with Stalker. I am speaking as a person who could not get beyond the second level of the original Doom - I am really bad at shooters . Just for giggles, my son likes to sit and watch me play the first mission on Stalker as I equipped with my trusty pistol, I gradually (re)learn the controls, battle lag and the five bandits. My three allied NPC stalkers quickly die brutal heroic deaths and, if I make it inside the farmhouse, I stand cowering and traumatised in a corner, like some defenceless deadmeat in a slasher movie. My prowess at running and gunning makes Mr Bean look like James Bond. In my defence, the reviews do say the first mission is the hardest. Once you loot a sawn-off or SMG from one of the five bandits, things get a lot easier, as either weapon can make quite a mess of a bandit walking round a corner.

As long as you are willing to reload a little (in my case, more than a little), the majority of the game is not difficult in my opinion. (As I said, I have not finished it yet, but I usually don't finish games.) Just follow Minsc's advice and go for the eyes (or, rather, head) and you will be fine.

**TinCow** · 07-03-2009, 00:08

Originally Posted by Monk

I know the DOOM purists are gonna hate me for saying this, but I thoroughly enjoyed Doom 3. It may not be in the run and gun style of its predecessors Doom and Doom II, yet it still offers up some genuinely fun (and some say) scary gameplay. The only downside to it for new comers is trying to juggle the flash-light and a weapon, since you cant have both equipped at the same time.

Doom 3 is a brilliant game if you take it for what it is: the closest you'll get to a haunted house experience in your PC. It's got many flaws as a shooter and has not much worthwhile in terms of plotline, but turn off the lights and pump up the sound and it will scare the crap out of you over and over and over and over. That's a fun experience you don't often get in a game, and it earns my praise for that reason alone.

**Whacker** · 07-03-2009, 00:22

Originally Posted by Monk

I know the DOOM purists are gonna hate me for saying this, but I thoroughly enjoyed Doom 3. It may not be in the run and gun style of its predecessors Doom and Doom II, yet it still offers up some genuinely fun (and some say) scary gameplay. The only downside to it for new comers is trying to juggle the flash-light and a weapon, since you cant have both equipped at the same time.

Something we can agree on! Yay! I also very much liked Doom 3 and Quake 4 as well. Simple, unpretentious, very pretty straightforward shooters on rails. They're essentially tech demos for id's game engines.

Sorry though, you are dead wrong on HL2.

**frogbeastegg** · 07-03-2009, 16:48

Originally Posted by econ21

I was thinking of you, frogbeastegg, when I returned to Stalker. First time round, I think my comments put you off the game

Hehe, the first time I read this I went, "He seems to know me - who is this!?" Then I looked to the right and saw the name. Shows how much I rely on avatars to identify people when I'm in a hurry.

Welcome back; now go post in some RPG threads. They haven't been the same without you!

Yes, we talked about stalker when you first got it. As you've changed your mind about the game I shall have to give it a go.

**Monk** · 07-04-2009, 02:44

Originally Posted by TinCow

Doom 3 is a brilliant game if you take it for what it is: the closest you'll get to a haunted house experience in your PC. It's got many flaws as a shooter and has not much worthwhile in terms of plotline, but turn off the lights and pump up the sound and it will scare the crap out of you over and over and over and over. That's a fun experience you don't often get in a game, and it earns my praise for that reason alone.

Originally Posted by Whacker

Something we can agree on! Yay! I also very much liked Doom 3 and Quake 4 as well. Simple, unpretentious, very pretty straightforward shooters on rails. They're essentially tech demos for id's game engines.

I very much enjoyed Doom3, it kept me engaged from start to finish. Though I've never had the inclination to play through it again I do remember it fondly. As for Quake 4, I never played it. I did hear good things when it was released, though. Maybe I'll check it out in a week or two when I got a little more cash, right now eating comes first.

Sorry though, you are dead wrong on HL2.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on what is better, clementines or tangerines.