Best 'small Successor'?

[Dutchhoplite]

Jaja, ben Nederlands ;)

[Maion Maroneios]

Baktria, Epeiros, Pontos, Hayasdan successor states??

Baktria can be called a Successor state, I believe. They were a Seleucid Satrapy that rebelled from them, so I guess they encompass the title better. Pontos and Hayasdan certainly not. As for Epeiros, it had always been a free allied state to the Macedonians, right? So no "real" Successor State but certainly heavily influenced by them.

edit: hey dutchhoplite... are you actually dutch.... Cause I am....

En hij is niet de enige. Half-Nederlands hier.

Maion

[Reality=Chaos]

zijn er veel anderen? BTW I find people chatting in their native language often annoying, so I'll keep to english (well not in PM's obviously)

[Mikhail Mengsk]

Baktria: many fighting styles, like heavy cavalry, hammer and anvil, missile power, elephant steamrolling, light assault armies.... a lot of fun.

[Reality=Chaos]

Baktria can be called a Successor state, I believe. They were a Seleucid Satrapy that rebelled from them, so I guess they encompass the title better. Pontos and Hayasdan certainly not. As for Epeiros, it had always been a free allied state to the Macedonians, right? So no "real" Successor State but certainly heavily influenced by them.


En hij is niet de enige. Half-Nederlands hier.

Maion

I never figured you as dutch Maion (or half dutch)

[Maion Maroneios]

Greek, to be precise. Born in the Netherlands, but raised in Greece. Greek father, Dutch mother. An Heterogenes, speaking in EB-terms

Anyway, sorry for the OT-chat.

Maion

[Reality=Chaos]

How owuld class Pontos? It was persian but heavily hellenized... also they were obviously a result Alexanders conquests... so not a diadochoi state as such, but you could say it was a successor state Maybe?

[Conradus]

zijn er veel anderen? BTW I find people chatting in their native language often annoying, so I'll keep to english (well not in PM's obviously)

About half the org or so are either Dutch or Belgian. Most spoken language here besides English is Dutch :p

[miotas]

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Assert our rightous freedom!
Lores of heroic deeds,
Long live our Basileus!

O Fatherland of Glory,
Vergina sun shines bright!
Sons of Alexandros,
All Hail Makedonia!!!

High above on Olympus,
Almighty Zeus guides on!
Immortal beacons of Truth,
Lucid as the sea!

O Fatherland of Glory,
Vergina sun shines bright!
Sons of Alexandros,
All Hail Makedonia!!!

March our brave Hetairos,
Arche of Truth and Hope.
King of Kings All Gaia,
East to West he reigns.
Dominion upon barbaroi,
Our Basileus pushes on!
Never will he be overthrown,
Invincible his Agema.
All Hail Makedonia!

O Fatherland of Glory,
Vergina sun shines bright!
Sons of Alexandros,
All Hail Makedonia!!!

Χαλάζι Δυτικά Βασιλέα!

My favourite faction is Baktria. If in looking for a small successor you want a tricky starting position then I would go with Baktria. Makedonia already starts off in a fairly strong position, it is still threatened but not to the extent of Baktria which is constantly threatened by AS, phalav, and saka. Plus Baktria can get early access to those beautiful indus and indo-hellenic units.

[Maion Maroneios]

Χαλάζι Δυτικά Βασιλέα!

OK I'm mean, but I had to laugh about this. What you wrote means: "Hail (as in weather-terms) in the west, King!"

Maion

[antisocialmunky]

Now that I think about it. There was Thrace. It got dogpiled by all the other Successors though in hilarious fashion.

[miotas]

OK I'm mean, but I had to laugh about this. What you wrote means: "Hail (as in weather-terms) in the west, King!"

Maion

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

Wrong hail

You're going to get me in trouble Maion. It's getting rather late here and I'm sure I just woke up the whole house with my laughter.

[Reality=Chaos]

About half the org or so are either Dutch or Belgian. Most spoken language here besides English is Dutch :p

And to imagine I never ever noticed that.... I thought there were a lot of Yanks on here tbh

[Alexandros_III]

Go either Makedonia or Pontos. Except Pontos is really hard.

[Bucefalo]

I see too much love for the maks..but they are just a bunch of sissy greeks, so play Pontos instead, it is a lot more challenging and you have the best things from both the hellenes and persians!

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

I see too much love for the maks..but they are just a bunch of sissy greeks, so play Pontos instead, it is a lot more challenging and you have the best things from both the hellenes and persians!

When Pontos or Armenia is a successor state, than are the Romaioi as well. Or Sweboz. Or Casse.

[Hax]

Probably; Tellos Athenaios, Intrepid Adventurer and myself are also Dutch.

[Reality=Chaos]

When Pontos or Armenia is a successor state, than are the Romaioi as well. Or Sweboz. Or Casse.

I kinda disagree.... Pontos Came about because of Alexanders conquest, and in quite a few ways the Hay could be seen as a successor of the previous persian empire... not diadochoi for sure, but successors nonetheless

[Prussian to the Iron]

i think, if you are looking for a real challenge, then baktria or pontos are good. they have good, makedonian style armies, but are surrounded by AS.

for a challenge, but some variety, i like Epiros a lot. it is my favorite non-baktria faction. simply put, it has a mix of every culture in it, and as a result, has a lot of different types of troops and mercenaries to recrtuit.

[machinor]

I always found Makedonia rather dull. My favourite Successor-ish factions are Epeiros and Baktria. Baktria is potentially the most stylish RTS-faction ever! Can't wait for the EBII-Baktrians!

[Prussian to the Iron]

i found makedonia to be rather boring as well

[A Very Super Market]

It's like you're trying to provoke Sax and Maion...

[antisocialmunky]

To be fair, its like playing a better version of the KH and conquering in the opposite direction before basically doing the same exact thing and expanding into Thrace, Asia, and around the Black Sea...

:-\

[Prussian to the Iron]

.....except you get mostly phalanx units rather than hoplites.......

[option]

.....except you get mostly phalanx units rather than hoplites.......

Hence 'better'.

[Irishmafia2020]

one other option... one guy decided to play the AS and he disbanded all of his troops and let every city rebel except Antioch... that would be another option, create your own small successor kingdom.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Hence 'better'.

not neccessarily. if you are the kind of player i am-line infantry vs line infnatry til 1 side wins- then yes, they are better.

however, if you are a player who likes using geurilla attacks and constantly out-flanks your enemy, then hoplites are a more flexible, faster force you can easily maneuver out of a battle and right back in.

thats 1 reason i like epieros: they get both.

[A Very Super Market]

not neccessarily. if you are the kind of player i am-line infantry vs line infnatry til 1 side wins- then yes, they are better.

however, if you are a player who likes using geurilla attacks and constantly out-flanks your enemy, then hoplites are a more flexible, faster force you can easily maneuver out of a battle and right back in.

thats 1 reason i like epieros: they get both.

I think you fail to understand "Hammer and Anvil" tactics.

The Maks get hoplites too, just limited to Haploi and Classicals. At the end of the day, that's all you need.

[antisocialmunky]

Thorakitai Hoplitae are very powerful with their AP swords though. Other than that the high end hoplites aren't cost effective at all except as some sort of reserve.

[Maion Maroneios]

I always found Makedonia rather dull.

Noooooo, Strategos Machinoros...

Maion