Cold war Crisis. [Concluded]

[A Very Super Market]

The government of Somalia would like to apologize for recent pirate attacks, since they are completely out of our control. He-he-heh.

All who wish to receive... personal "apologies" from the pirates themselves, please, leave me a message.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

America ignores the Iranian people, only wanting to abuse their position to overthrow our previous democratic government due them wanting our oil along with Britain.

I am not sure I like the undertones here Iran, care to explain more accurately.


Also Russia, be careful who you threaten, I would not want to have a world war over a few petty disagreements. NATO will respond to any hostile actions, I assure you that.


We have contacted our trade partners, anyone else who wishes to partake in British trade will have to contact us privately.

[Beskar]

I am not sure I like the undertones here Iran, care to explain more accurately.

Oil was a resource which was open to exploitation by foreign powers, in particular, the Anglo-Persion Oil Company (known as BP). When Mohammed Mosaddeq supported a plan of oil nationalisation in order for Iran to receive greater income from it's own resources in order to help it's people, the United Kingdom requested assistence from America and they staged a CIA-backed coup d'etat overthrowing the democratic elected government installing the Shah as dictator.

In short, you were vile oppressors of our people under your imperialist might along with America and funded a despot to oppress the people and drive us into poverty. Now the Shah seeks refuge in luxury hotels on American soil with America freezing the peoples assets.

We would like the Shah returned here to face prosecution, our assets returned to the Iranian people and at least formal apologises from both America and Britain with them removing any claims or interests from Iranian soil. Once this is done, Iran will declare that you wiped the slate clean and we would be interested in mutual talks as equals.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ahhh....... well....... that......

[Beskar]

Our request is merely a small thing for such "Great" nations such as Britain and like the United States of America. All we are asking is for you to do the right thing, then possibly, who knows, we could even be friends down the line.

[White_eyes:D]

I declare that the SOVIET UNION needs a good kick....
so....my plan still stands... NATO will love it...

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Umm turkey, perhaps provoking the USSR is not the best opening move..... I for one can say that if Turkey is the one to begin hostile actions I will not be supporting them. If you are going to attack the Soviet union you should be prepared to face the consequences....

(Of course if USSR attack you then I shall assist, but don't go around trying to start world war 3.... ) not to sound Callous or anything, but perhaps you should plot their doom in private :p

[Beskar]

(Maybe Nato and Warsaw have their own open topics? - Just a suggestion.)

[ULC]

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Just a heads up to Greyblades, if Caius, as usual, goes inactive, my schedule appears to be open now for me to play - wow things change fast

[White_eyes:D]

Umm turkey, perhaps provoking the USSR is not the best opening move..... I for one can say that if Turkey is the one to begin hostile actions I will not be supporting them. If you are going to attack the Soviet union you should be prepared to face the consequences....

(Of course if USSR attack you then I shall assist, but don't go around trying to start world war 3.... ) not to sound Callous or anything, but perhaps you should plot their doom in private :p

No worries.....I don't want a nuke battle just yet.....just seeing if the Soviet Union, well take the bait..... So....If I am attacked....it's likely Soviet Union...

[Beskar]

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Just a heads up to Greyblades, if Caius, as usual, goes inactive, my schedule appears to be open now for me to play - wow things change fast

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Some how, I feel you want to play as America while I am Iran is not mere coincidence...

[Greyblades]

You... you... there arent any words in the world that the mods would allow me to say about this! You could have found that out sooner?! *sigh* Well anyway welcome back and all. I kinda forced caius into playing America because I was desperate to start before anyone else dropped out so there is a chance he'll settle for a different country but its his call. Pity ATPG and Iskanders gone though.

[White_eyes:D]

And what gives???? why is West Germany not wanting to trade with us??? If it was a mistake I will forgive you.....but if not....

[Greyblades]

Your nato and he's a puppet of russia I dont think its such a surprise.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I believe it is because you are insulting its patron, Russia

do you mean west Germany?

[Beskar]

(oh by the way, Iran is obviously open for trade relations with people. Obviously just be in our good books)

[Beefy187]

Beefy, we are highly disappointed in you! They bombed you! Did we? No! You crushed us in battle in the early previous century, we merely evened the score by defeating you in the second world war. It is balanced! Don't list to those massacres. Who dropped Atomic bombs on your city? Certainly not Mother Russia!

Its our fault for starting the war and we deserved to be bombed.
We did nasty things and we were... bad..
We massacred a few innocent civilians and raped a few.
America is a good country who smacked us in the face to wake us up from the cycle of evilness.
etc etc

Thats the governments point of view. If there is innocent kids, planning to wipe out USA from this world with anti matter bombs, that is none of our business.. We are trying our best to brainwash... I mean convince them not to.

[White_eyes:D]

I believe it is because you are insulting its patron, Russia

do you mean west Germany?

YES.. I thought we were all a part of NATO????

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I guess he just does not like you

[White_eyes:D]

......well these things happen....

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

(oh by the way, Iran is obviously open for trade relations with people. Obviously just be in our good books)

ahhh darn it......

[Greyblades]

Hrumph apparantly one or two of you lot are in posession of the idea that you can only have a limited amount of trade effects at once or that they dont stack, or something along those lines, anyway theres no limit on how many trade deals you can have and the effects stack.

[Centurion1]

Heck yeah, the effects stack and when you have trade agreements with all nations, mwahahaha, you can cause quite a bit of damage

Oh and can this be made clear. Is Caius out and YLC in as america???

[Beskar]

ahhh darn it......

(Hey, my demands aren't much. Go sorry, roleplay giving us the Shah for trial and don't hold any grudges. Oh yeah. one other thing, you know that CIA funded guy next door called Sadam? quit giving him weapons)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

How About I give you him for trial and not hold any grudges? The public apology things is whats throwing me off....

and what about the USA they are in this as thick as me!

[Captain Blackadder]

Bonjuer Iran. France is very interested in trading with you mon ami. Please tell us what you have of worth to France we have très bon food it is is the finest in the world.

[ULC]

OCC:

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There seems to be some confusion as to how the economic system works, and how Cultural Exchange Points work. Allow me to explain - again .

Each country has an economy, if Capitalist, then 10-50, if Socialist, 20-40, if Communist, a straight 30. This is the amount of Economic points you gain per turn, which are spent on troops, deploying those troops, building up nuclear arms, completing espionage missions, and using them for public support and research into your next tech level.

Trade partners increase the amount you get by their trade worth - which should vary from 5-20 Economic points, correct Greyblades? ( correct?).

Each country has modifiers to determine the success of their economy - in general, you should get your high end figure, if everything goes according to plan or nothing happens. However, their are some modifiers that will drop this like a boulder in a pond so that you will only get a low end figure - communists do not have a low end figure, or a high end one, so they can care less about what they are doing or what is being done to them, they just keep chugging along, while Capitalists are at the opposite end of this spectrum and must carefully balance diplomacy with affirmative action to generate a powerful, but possibly unstable economy.

Cultural Exchange points are an entirely different but not separate matter. I had explained it in the previous thread, but alas, I must do it yet again .

Each Nation has CE points from 10-20, representing a countries cultural strength in the global community. Whenever you trade with someone, you may spend cultural exchange points - if you do so, you add them to your trade partners culture meter.

Each player has a culture meter, that Greyblades should be keeping track of, totaling at 100. At the start of the game, for simplicities sake, each culture meter is entirely made up of the players culture. However, as you receive cultural exchange points, it changes to factor in the received cultural points.

Once your culture meter has 50 points of another culture, you suffer a revolution, and must choose whom to back.

To counter cultural exchange, you may spend 1 point to counter 3 incoming points, you may use an espionage mission, and you may sever trade with that country, which will cause the culture points you gained from them to go down at one point per turn.

Beware who your trade partners trade with - if they receive any cultural points, you will receive half of what they receive as well.

IC - Now, what is this about the Shah? You want us, to hand him and his family over to you, who proclaim that it would be just? Is this your government speaking, out for brownie points, or do the people care enough anymore, and would actually prefer it if you lived up to the second half of your governments title?

[A Very Super Market]

Somalia warns any sea-faring nation to avoid angering the pirates by attempting to disrupt our own meager trade routes, lest your's be infested by pirates.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

OCC:
There seems to be some confusion as to how the economic system works, and how Cultural Exchange Points work. Allow me to explain - again .

Each country has an economy, if Capitalist, then 10-50, if Socialist, 20-40, if Communist, a straight 30. This is the amount of Economic points you gain per turn, which are spent on troops, deploying those troops, building up nuclear arms, completing espionage missions, and using them for public support and research into your next tech level.

Trade partners increase the amount you get by their trade worth - which should vary from 5-20 Economic points, correct Greyblades? ( correct?).

Each country has modifiers to determine the success of their economy - in general, you should get your high end figure, if everything goes according to plan or nothing happens. However, their are some modifiers that will drop this like a boulder in a pond so that you will only get a low end figure - communists do not have a low end figure, or a high end one, so they can care less about what they are doing or what is being done to them, they just keep chugging along, while Capitalists are at the opposite end of this spectrum and must carefully balance diplomacy with affirmative action to generate a powerful, but possibly unstable economy.

Cultural Exchange points are an entirely different but not separate matter. I had explained it in the previous thread, but alas, I must do it yet again .

Each Nation has CE points from 10-20, representing a countries cultural strength in the global community. Whenever you trade with someone, you may spend cultural exchange points - if you do so, you add them to your trade partners culture meter.

Each player has a culture meter, that Greyblades should be keeping track of, totaling at 100. At the start of the game, for simplicities sake, each culture meter is entirely made up of the players culture. However, as you receive cultural exchange points, it changes to factor in the received cultural points.

Once your culture meter has 50 points of another culture, you suffer a revolution, and must choose whom to back.

To counter cultural exchange, you may spend 1 point to counter 3 incoming points, you may use an espionage mission, and you may sever trade with that country, which will cause the culture points you gained from them to go down at one point per turn.

Beware who your trade partners trade with - if they receive any cultural points, you will receive half of what they receive as well.

So do we gain more Cultural exchange points over time? Is that their only use?

[Greyblades]

Trade partners increase the amount you get by their trade worth - which should vary from 5-20 Economic points, correct Greyblades? ( correct?).
Um... my new economist and USA player ladies and gents who will be digging us out of this hole in the rules.

Caus I'll give you poland if you show up again but I need somewhat active players for the superpower roles.