Top 5 Ancient Celebrities

[Cute Wolf]

For me:
1) GOD (he create everything you got... still a celebs until now!) / Including Jesus of course!

So top 5 ancient human celebs
2) Aristoteles (without him, no Megas Alexandros & modern Philoshopy)
3) Megas Alexandros
4) Leonidas... THIS IS SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!!
5) Cyrus the Great
6) Chin Shi Wang... (first unifier of China, without him, no far eastern politics madness)

[Maion Maroneios]

For me:
1) GOD (he create everything you got... still a celebs until now!) / Including Jesus of course!

Hmmm, I think it's mentioned that God/Jesus/Allah/Brahman or whatever religious figure or entity shouldn't be included. And I consider that correct, mainly because the creation of divine entities is simply the human way of explaining the unexplainable. We're talking about impact of people upon humanity, not religion.

Oh, and I'd take the "he create everything you got" part away, as it may lead to a serious religious debate. I consider it bullshit, for example.

Maion

[Hax]

On that point, Gautama Buddha and Mohammed have certainly existed. There has been some discussion on the authenticity of Jesus, but there probably was some guy like him.

I won't put it so bluntly as Maion, but I do agree with him.

[Maion Maroneios]

On that point, Gautama Buddha and Mohammed have certainly existed.

Just a minor correction: Mohammed lived during the 6th-7th century AD, so he's out of our timeframe. Unless you meant something else and I misunderstood your statement, of course.

Maion

[Conradus]

On that point, Gautama Buddha and Mohammed have certainly existed. There has been some discussion on the authenticity of Jesus, but there probably was some guy like him.

Weren't there a couple of non-biblical sources which confirm he existed? I think it's pretty safe to assume he did. What he did, is another question altogether.

OT:
1)Homer, doesn't matter if he was one person or a lot, the Illiad and Odyssea are still masterpieces.
2)Alexander the Great, even 2000 years after his death he still inspired military leaders with his feats. Nevermind that some cultures consider him the devil
3)Caesar, for being a skilled general, able politician and gifted speaker. Few combined those skills as he did.
4)Plato, (and Socrates and Aristotle through him, Socrates because he's our main source for anything S. said and Aristotle because Plato was his teacher of sorts. Even though their theories were completely different). Socrates is basically one of the greatest philosophers ever and Plato is certainly no less.
5)Ramsessess II, for all the buildings he left us, for the skilled ruler he was and for his invention of good warpropaganda

Honourable mentions to Cleopatra (what a nose, what a nose if you've read Asterix), Scipio, Virgil, Hannibal, Augustus, and basically hundreds of other people.

[Hax]

Just a minor correction: Mohammed lived during the 6th-7th century AD, so he's out of our timeframe. Unless you meant something else and I misunderstood your statement, of course.

That's absolutely correct, but I was refering to the historicity of religious characters on its own.

Well, yes; there most likely was indeed a Jewish man who had a great religious following and changed the course of human history. Whether he was the son of (a) God and was able to change water into wine is an entirely different question.

[option]

1. Thucydides (the father of history and political realism)
2. Augustus (brilliant politician and a textbook example of the power of realist politics when employed correctly)
3. Hannibal Barca (the greatest general of the ancient world, his tactics are still studied today
4. Solon (the father of democracy)
5. Philip II (the REAL reason Macedonia was so powerful)
6. Cyrus the Great
7. Mithradates VI
8. Plato
9. Pythagoras
10. Pyrrhos of Epeiros

[Mikhail Mengsk]

Hannibal Barca also forced Rome to be MUCH more aggressive, because of the treachery of its former allies and its greek noighbours. THere's an interestig book about the whole Hannibal-Scipio story that hardly underline that. After Hannibal, Rome became a much more aggressive expansionist military state.

[johnhughthom]

1. Thucydides (the father of history and political realism)

Personally I would have said Herodotus was the father of history.

[Rilder]

For me:
1) GOD (he create everything you got... still a celebs until now!) / Including Jesus of course!

If we're including gods then here's mine:

1.) Zeus
2.) Athena
3.) Aphrodite
4.) Prometheus
5.) Ares...

Ok I'l stop.

[Cute Wolf]

If we're including gods then here's mine:

1.) Zeus
2.) Athena
3.) Aphrodite
4.) Prometheus
5.) Ares...

Ok I'l stop.

more:
1) Satan
2) Lucifer
3) Orcs
4) Uruk-Hai
5) Goblins

[Hax]

1) Satan
2) Lucifer

Are the same.

[Maion Maroneios]

Let's keep this on-topic, OK?

Maion

[gamegeek2]

Religious figures are banned from this competition. Anyways, before 0 BCE monotheism was almost nonexistent...Judaism was very, very small and still is today (17 million worldwide isn't that much)

[Cute Wolf]

Cleopatra too...

[antisocialmunky]

Religious figures are banned from this competition. Anyways, before 0 BCE monotheism was almost nonexistent...Judaism was very, very small and still is today (17 million worldwide isn't that much)

ZZZZZooooo-aster....? Dualistic but close enough to be closer to monotheistic as opposed to heno(sp?).

Poor Persians culture recognition getting the shaft since the Muslim conquest.


You have to count the somewhat monotheistic N. American cultures as well.

[AttilaDerHunn]

1.Nebuchadnezzar
2.Khufu
3.Xenophon
4.Darius the great
5.Iphikrates
6.Zalmoxis(don't know if he existed but some sources say he did)
7.Vercingetorix
8.Hanno the great
9.

[Reno Melitensis]

1) Augustus Caesar, for ending the civil wars and crowning himself emperor
2) Mithridates King of Pontus, for kicking the roman ass out of Asia minor
3) Ariminus the Cheruscan, for doing the same in Germania
4) Megas Alexandros, well he is Megas after all
5) Cleopatra, for being the most sexy women in antiquity, or so they say
6) Last but not least Jesus of Nazzareth, the son of God to those who belive, he sad let the last be
the first, and love thy enemy.

Cheers.

[Rilder]

6) Last but not least Jesus of Nazzareth, the son of God to those who belive, he sad let the last be
the first, and love thy enemy.

Cheers.

You haven't been watching the demotivater thread have you?

[Xurr]

Wow how can you guys have forgotten the first real superstar of the ancient world? How about Hellen? You know the "face that launched a thousand ships"?

[antisocialmunky]

She was a dumb whore who was used as an excuse to take out trading competition in the Aegean.

[Rilder]

Wow how can you guys have forgotten the first real superstar of the ancient world? How about Hellen? You know the "face that launched a thousand ships"?

If you count the sailors on those ships you could say she was the face that launched 50 Thousand Seamen.

[Andronikos]

"face that launched a thousand ships"

a vision of loveliness glimpsed through a nighmare of ruin and destruction

Eh? :p

Sorry, I'm blind and my dog is dead. And I'm sure somebody mentioned Achnaton too before.